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I'm here, I'm queer, and I'm full of cheer, and I'm curious as to who else is.
Specifically, I'm pansexual and genderfluid between female, male, and a non-male masculine gender.
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Gay demiboy.

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Transgender guy who honestly thinks most non-binary people are full of shit. I'm into girls but don't have a penis to fuck them with, so there's not really any point, now is there?

I mean really, are either of you going to transition or did you just spend too much time on tumblr and thought it was too boring to be cis?
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Bi leaning gay
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(02-23-2017 02:43 PM)Dead Wrote:  Transgender guy who honestly thinks most non-binary people are full of shit....


I mean really, are either of you going to transition or did you just spend too much time on tumblr and thought it was too boring to be cis?

Ah yeah, getting sudden dysphoria in the middle of TJ Max, being scared of the idea of not being cisgender after you'd been your whole life and wanting the dysphoria to go away but also being afraid such a strong experience would have been just a phase, being harder on yourself than anybody else like you, and being deathly afraid that if you ever come out of the closet you'd be in deep shit is not from spending too much time on tumblr.
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(02-24-2017 03:32 AM)StrixDesmodus Wrote:  
(02-23-2017 02:43 PM)Dead Wrote:  Transgender guy who honestly thinks most non-binary people are full of shit....


I mean really, are either of you going to transition or did you just spend too much time on tumblr and thought it was too boring to be cis?

Ah yeah, getting sudden dysphoria in the middle of TJ Max, being scared of the idea of not being cisgender after you'd been your whole life and wanting the dysphoria to go away but also being afraid such a strong experience would have been just a phase, being harder on yourself than anybody else like you, and being deathly afraid that if you ever come out of the closet you'd be in deep shit is not from spending too much time on tumblr.

The concept of gender fluidity makes no sense to me. I don't understand how one could randomly "switch" between genders. "Oh, I feel like a girl right now, maybe around lunch time I'll be a boy, then at dinner time I'll just be some random fucking gender instead." That's treating it like a fashion accessory.
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(02-24-2017 04:02 AM)Dead Wrote:  
(02-24-2017 03:32 AM)StrixDesmodus Wrote:  
(02-23-2017 02:43 PM)Dead Wrote:  Transgender guy who honestly thinks most non-binary people are full of shit....


I mean really, are either of you going to transition or did you just spend too much time on tumblr and thought it was too boring to be cis?

Ah yeah, getting sudden dysphoria in the middle of TJ Max, being scared of the idea of not being cisgender after you'd been your whole life and wanting the dysphoria to go away but also being afraid such a strong experience would have been just a phase, being harder on yourself than anybody else like you, and being deathly afraid that if you ever come out of the closet you'd be in deep shit is not from spending too much time on tumblr.

The concept of gender fluidity makes no sense to me. I don't understand how one could randomly "switch" between genders. "Oh, I feel like a girl right now, maybe around lunch time I'll be a boy, then at dinner time I'll just be some random fucking gender instead." That's treating it like a fashion accessory.

I don't think about it. It just happens without notice. I don't even entirely know how to explain it.
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(02-24-2017 04:20 AM)StrixDesmodus Wrote:  I don't think about it. It just happens without notice. I don't even entirely know how to explain it.

You don't have to explain anything to me. I just find it hard to take seriously when every person I've met who doesn't identify as male or female is a teenager with a cunt who acts and looks like a girl, goes by some dumb flamboyant name, and acts obnoxiously.
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Screw all of that stuff! Gays don't exist, bi's don't exist, pansexuals don't exist, transgenders don't exist, genderfluids don't exist, asexuals don't exist AND HETERO'S DO NOT EXIST EITHER

Again, screw it all. Sexual identity is one of the vaguest and most harmful ideas in society.
Being mutilated at the baby-making parts Yuck
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(02-24-2017 05:41 AM)Jop Wrote:  Screw all of that stuff! Gays don't exist, bi's don't exist, pansexuals don't exist, transgenders don't exist, genderfluids don't exist, asexuals don't exist AND HETERO'S DO NOT EXIST EITHER

Again, screw it all. Sexual identity is one of the vaguest and most harmful ideas in society.
Being mutilated at the baby-making parts Yuck

Yeah, this is why I love talking about this stuff. The level of understanding here is astounding. Trannies are yucky.
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(02-24-2017 05:41 AM)Jop Wrote:  Again, screw it all. Sexual identity is one of the vaguest and most harmful ideas in society.
Being mutilated at the baby-making parts Yuck

It isn't vague or harmful at all. I don't get why you say this. It isn't harmful, and it's quite specific.
And circumcision has nothing to do with any of this

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Asexual, Aromantic, Agender person here. Hi.

Quote:Transgender guy who honestly thinks most non-binary people are full of shit. I'm into girls but don't have a penis to fuck them with, so there's not really any point, now is there?

I mean really, are either of you going to transition or did you just spend too much time on tumblr and thought it was too boring to be cis?

No need to be a dick about it. I know a lot of people on tumblr are full of shit though, so if that's where you're getting most of your examples from... it's no wonder. Look elsewhere. Razz

I think gender as a concept is confusing, complicated and would rather just opt out entirely. But I wouldn't want to physically modify anything about myself. I'm already pretty androgynous as it is, and I'm quite happy with that.

Quote:Again, screw it all. Sexual identity is one of the vaguest and most harmful ideas in society.
It is pretty confusing, I'll give you that. I only even figured mine out last year, until that point I just kind of assumed I was straight just because I figured out long ago that I wasn't gay.

How is it harmful though? I've found it helpful to discover that there are actually concepts that describe how I feel reasonably well.

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I mean, this is Jop we're talking about here. He thinks that anything "unnatural" is evil.

And yeah, I know I'm a dick. I wouldn't give a shit about what other people do if I was allowed to do what I want to do, but I'm not, so I'm in a shitty mood all the time.
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Quote:The concept of gender fluidity makes no sense to me. I don't understand how one could randomly "switch" between genders.
The concept of people identifying strongly with either male or female as their gender identity makes no sense to me. I used to think it was all because of gender roles that society 'enforces' on people, but was surprised to learn that it's apparently an innate thing that most people have... which I do not. Live and learn, I guess. But, just because I don't understand it, doesn't mean I'm going to deny that it's possible for people to actually experience it.

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Quote:And yeah, I know I'm a dick. I wouldn't give a shit about what other people do if I was allowed to do what I want to do, but I'm not, so I'm in a shitty mood all the time.
Fair enough. Hug

Please try not to take it out on people here, though.

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(02-24-2017 05:56 AM)Geicosuave Wrote:  It isn't vague or harmful at all. I don't get why you say this. It isn't harmful, and it's quite specific.
And circumcision has nothing to do with any of this

Circumcision? Do you know what they often do to those "transgender" people? Much, much worse...

(02-24-2017 05:50 AM)Dead Wrote:  The level of understanding here is astounding. Trannies are yucky.

Victims aren't yucky, what has been done to them is.

(02-24-2017 06:06 AM)Dead Wrote:  I mean, this is Jop we're talking about here. He thinks that anything "unnatural" is evil.

What? Huh No, I think hurting people is evil. Having your baby-making parts cut off hurts a lot.
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If you don't want a sex change then don't get one. It shouldn't be a concern of yours what people do with their own bodies.
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Yeah, and a transition is 1. Consensual and done because the person wanted to
2. Doesn't always involve surgery
3. They get new private parts
4. Anaesthetics

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But damn, have I openened a can of worms, haven't I?
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I'm bi but generally prefer guys :s
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(02-24-2017 01:22 PM)StrixDesmodus Wrote:  But damn, have I openened a can of worms, haven't I?

In what way?

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(02-24-2017 09:25 AM)Geicosuave Wrote:  1. Consensual and done because the person wanted to

Same goes for suicide...

(02-24-2017 09:25 AM)Geicosuave Wrote:  2. Doesn't always involve surgery

Of course, I said "often"

(02-24-2017 09:25 AM)Geicosuave Wrote:  3. They get new private parts

No they don't. That's exactly what makes it inexcusable (otherwise the damage would be temporary). They are fake non-functional parts that are not capable of making a baby.

For example, this is what implant "testicles" look like:

[Image: Polytech-Testicular-Implants-big-cropped-300x300.png]

Sick. Testicles are supposed to produce sperm. What do these little silicone blobs do? Nothing. Anybody who dares to implant these in someone is evil.

(02-24-2017 09:25 AM)Geicosuave Wrote:  4. Anaesthetics

Still hurts just as much, you just can't feel it anymore.
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1. Not all people have genitals that allow them to procreate.

2. If transitioning were to be made illegal, a lot of transgender people would simply kill themselves.
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(02-24-2017 09:39 PM)Dead Wrote:  1. Not all people have genitals that allow them to procreate.

Not all people have noses that allow them to smell.
Does that mean it's okay to surgically remove someone's ability to smell?

(02-24-2017 09:39 PM)Dead Wrote:  2. If transitioning were to be made illegal, a lot of transgender people would simply kill themselves.

True Sad
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I'm probably some flavor of asexual. I still can't be sure, because I have no good way of separating sex itself from the ideas and rules people have surrounded it with, and I'm not really sure which of the two is the real source of disgust.

Gender is stupid and we should burn it down.

I'm sure Jop will find some way to call me Hitler from this.

(02-24-2017 06:59 PM)Jop Wrote:  Sick. Testicles are supposed to produce sperm. What do these do? Nothing. Anybody who dares to implant these in someone is evil.

Sick. Schools are supposed to produce complacent drones. What do these do? Educate people. Anyone who dares to build these in a city is evil.

Hello, traveler.

This is an ancient account I have not used in a long time. My views have changed much in the intervening months and years.

Nonetheless, I refuse to clean it up. Pretending that I've held my current views since the beginning of time is what we in the industry call a lie. Asking people to do so contributes to moralistic self-loathing. "See, those people have nothing damning! I do! I'm truly vile!"

Because you can never be a good person with a single blemish on the moral record, I thought that simply entertaining some thoughts made me irredeemable. Though I don't care for his writing style, William Faulkner presents a good counterexample. He went from being a typical Southern racist to supporting the civil rights movement. These days we'd yell at him for that, probably.

People are allowed to change their views.

Nevertheless, this period of my life has informed some of how I am today. In good ways and bad ways. To purge it would be to do a disservice to history. Perhaps it will not make anyone sympathetic, but it may help someone understand.

If, after reading all this, you still decide to use the post above as evidence that I am evil today, ask yourself if you have never disagreed with the moral code you now follow. In all likelihood you did, at some point. If some questions are verboten, and the answer is "how dare you ask that," don't expect your ideological opponents to ever change their minds.
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(02-24-2017 10:03 PM)no Wrote:  I'm sure Jop will find some way to call me Hitler from this.

(02-24-2017 06:59 PM)Jop Wrote:  Sick. Testicles are supposed to produce sperm. What do these do? Nothing. Anybody who dares to implant these in someone is evil.

Sick. Schools are supposed to produce complacent drones. What do these do? Educate people. Anyone who dares to build these in a city is evil.

I have no idea what you're trying to convey
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Quote:No they don't. That's exactly what makes it inexcusable (otherwise the damage would be temporary). They are fake non-functional parts that are not capable of making a baby.
Oh noes, the horror! Unable to make babies! Because this planet clearly doesn't have enough humans already!

Quote:Anybody who dares to implant these in someone is evil.
Even if it makes the person happy? Making people happier is evil? Okay then.

Quote:I have no idea what you're trying to convey
Probably the ridiculousness of your original statement.

Quote:But damn, have I openened a can of worms, haven't I?
Nah, maybe a can of implants though... Razz

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This thread is so fucking gay.
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(02-24-2017 11:04 PM)SoulRiser Wrote:  
Quote:No they don't. That's exactly what makes it inexcusable (otherwise the damage would be temporary). They are fake non-functional parts that are not capable of making a baby.
Oh noes, the horror! Unable to make babies! Because this planet clearly doesn't have enough humans already!

You can consider baby-making to be pointless, but that's what these parts are for. What's the point of an implanted "organ" that actually does nothing?

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Quote:Anybody who dares to implant these in someone is evil.
Even if it makes the person happy? Making people happier is evil? Okay then.

There are also people who cut themselves because they think it makes them happy. Doesn't mean it actually makes them happy; in reality all it brings is lots of physical pain.
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(02-25-2017 03:42 AM)Jop Wrote:  
(02-24-2017 11:04 PM)SoulRiser Wrote:  
Quote:No they don't. That's exactly what makes it inexcusable (otherwise the damage would be temporary). They are fake non-functional parts that are not capable of making a baby.
Oh noes, the horror! Unable to make babies! Because this planet clearly doesn't have enough humans already!

You can consider baby-making to be pointless, but that's what these parts are for. What's the point of an implanted "organ" that actually does nothing?

(02-24-2017 11:04 PM)SoulRiser Wrote:  
Quote:Anybody who dares to implant these in someone is evil.
Even if it makes the person happy? Making people happier is evil? Okay then.

There are also people who cut themselves because they think it makes them happy. Doesn't mean it actually makes them happy; in reality all it brings is lots of physical pain.

There's a huge ass difference between satisfying an emotional need and an unhealthy addiction.... I'm just going to make a new paragraph about self harm because it's complex as fuck.

First off, loads of people who self harm are also ashamed of it. Second, self harm doesn't solve the problem, but transitioning does. Thirdly, self harm is an addiction; It's used in place of things that cause happiness and demands more and more use but plenty of trans people are happy with their transition. ET CETERA.

But seriously, I'm wondering if I should have even made this thread now.
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