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To everyone who joined these forums at some point, and got discouraged by the negativity and left after a while (or even got literally scared off): I'm sorry.

I wasn't good enough at encouraging people to be kinder, and removing people who refuse to be kind. Encouraging people is hard, and removing people creates conflict, and I hate conflict... so that's why I wasn't better at it.

I was a very, very sensitive teen. The atmosphere of this forum as it is now, if it had existed in 1996, would probably have upset me far more than it would have helped.

I can handle quite a lot of negativity and even abuse now, but that isn't the point. I want to help people. I want to help the people who need it the most, and I want to help people like the 1996 version of me.

I'm still figuring out the best way to do that, but as it is now, these forums are doing more harm than good, and I can't keep running them.

Thank you to the few people who have tried to understand my point of view so far. I really, really appreciate you guys. You are beautiful people.

Everyone else: If after everything I've said so far, you still don't understand my motivations, I think it's unlikely that you will. We're just too different. Maybe someday in the future it might make sense, but until then, there's no point in arguing about it. I don't have the time or the energy for arguing anymore. I will focus my time and energy on people who support me, and those who need help.

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Okay, so I don't have a smartphone at the moment because my mom told me I had to raise my own money if I wanted one so I stuck with it. However, since I have to keep my streaks on snapchat going and stuff, I use her phone to log onto there. But, she's always bitching about how I always use her phone and I'm going to "break it because of how much you use it" and I find it completely ridiculous. Like if you don't want me using your phone then why don't you just get me one?? It honestly gets so frustrating and I'm getting sick of it at this point. I want to get a new phone ASAP so I won't have to use her phone anymore but raising money is kinda hard (I have $70, trying to raise $230) and her complaining is getting annoying. She also told me she wasn't going to let me use her phone anymore because she got a snapchat notification that was meant for me while at church and she got hella butthurt. Aside from trying to keep up with my streaks, I also use snapchat to do homework since friends send me pictures of it on there and I desperately need to buy myself a new phone so my mom can stop bitching at me. This is just a little rant so feel free to leave your opinion. [/size][/font]
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I have to fart
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get a job

or stop being so entitled jfc it's a fucking phone
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Ouch, a means of communication is a basic need. I hope you manage to get a good phone as soon as possible. What model of phone are you saving towards?

(02-16-2017 03:59 PM)Uryitiogi Wrote:  I have to fart
(02-16-2017 03:59 PM)Gwedin Wrote:  get a job

or stop being so entitled jfc it's a fucking phone

What is wrong with you two
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Aaaand he has set his account to permanently away. Rightfully. Such a nice forum is this!
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good riddance
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I see the problem -- but it should be possible to get a decent Android smartphone with relevant features for $70 or not too much more. Maybe you can get one sooner than expected with your own money?

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(02-20-2017 07:41 AM)Jop Wrote:  Aaaand he has set his account to permanently away. Rightfully. Such a nice forum is this!

Yes, this is supposed to be a support forum. And some people here do care about providing support.

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(02-20-2017 07:41 AM)Jop Wrote:  Aaaand he has set his account to permanently away. Rightfully. Such a nice forum is this!

Yes, this is supposed to be a support forum. And some people here do care about providing support.

I understand that some kinds of posts have elements that people want to criticize, but it can help a lot to look at ways to help; snarky criticism tends not to.

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(02-20-2017 02:51 PM)xcriteria Wrote:  I see the problem -- but it should be possible to get a decent Android smartphone with relevant features for $70 or not too much more. Maybe you can get one sooner than expected with your own money?

Bad idea. You get what you pay for. €200 is a good target for a budget phone I think.
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try getting a refurbished phone of a model that has beem tried and tested. I got a refurbished Galaxy S3 awhile back, it worked great until I accidentally broke it.

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Samsung is one of the lesser quality manufacturers. They are just very good at marketing.
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I've got the On5 now. its got a ton of annoying stupid things it does. I just put up with it since it mostly just annoys me that programmers and engineers make more money than me. I hate bullshit avoidable flaws of design.

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So Gwedin and Uri chased her away. Now please explain why you think that they should be unbanned.

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(02-20-2017 02:31 PM)Gwedin Wrote:  good riddance

*shakes head...
so sad...

sad he learned to communicate in this way
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lol this thread got bumped

ofc no one is joining

this forum is going the way of yugoslavia

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(06-26-2017 05:30 PM)Hansgrohe Wrote:  lol this thread got bumped

ofc no one is joining

this forum is going the way of yugoslavia

stop putting down the forum - u are undermining me and soul

thats worth a couple of warning points at least.
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(06-26-2017 05:30 PM)Hansgrohe Wrote:  this forum is going the way of yugoslavia

btw hans - have u seen my video of my hostel in montevideo?

write me a little report of it so i know u watched it or u get another warning

one of my other goals is to make this forum a bit of my own class.

haha

to experiment with my ideas.

and to teach them to people

if u dont want to be part of this class and do your homework assignments, it is your choice

this forum has totally changed for u and a few others

you guys fucked up and pissed me and soul off

so if u want to earn ur way back up the totem pole ur gonna have to put some effort into it

sorry i sound like a bastard. i can understand why ud hate me

but this is how i am doing things for now

when this place gets cleaned up i wont need to

so tell me how u feel about the new rule of having u do homework?

or you get another warning


im kind of singling you out

putting pressure on u to see how much u think it is worth it to stay here

its not the old place u knew and loved

but its gonna be a new place that me soul ben dove and others love and support - support not undermine

anything not clear here?

if u dont answer my questions your out

i promise u that

its just a question of time

so do u want to do this or not? plz send a pm and tell me if ur willing or not

i will probably give u 24 hours to send the pm


no pm will indicate to me that no u dont want to do things in this new way.

so you will be saying goodbye

clear?
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What? Huh
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"Homework" on School Survival. Punishment for failure to do it is getting banned. Now I've seen everything.

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"Write me a little report of [my video], so I know you watched it, or you get another warning. One of my other goals is to make this forum a bit of my own class...So, tell me, how you feel about the new rule of having you do homework? Or you get another warning. So, do you want to do this or not?...Please send a PM and tell me if you're willing or not. I will probably give you 24 hours to send the PM. No PM will indicate to me that, no, you don't want to do things in this new way. So, you will be saying goodbye."
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(06-26-2017 08:22 PM)HawkbitAlpha Wrote:  "Homework" on School Survival. Punishment for failure to do it is getting banned. Now I've seen everything.

let me clarify...

1. you dont get banned for not doing the hw i assign.
you get a warning or a demerit or some such thing or you lose good invisible good faith points which everyone gets when they come in. im still working out the details and they will be flexible, fluid, adaptable.

2. this is just on of my ideas to make this a safe place for sensitive, non aggressive ppl. soulriser, site founder and final authority on all decisions here, can decide if she wants to support this idea.

i know she supports most if not all of what i have done so far, but she can and surely will make the final call

3. these are special measures for "problematic " people, not for the average or new user.

let's say the people on our shitlist

by our i mean sr, me, ben - the 12 year child prodigy/genious

btw - he is telling and showing me how he has been treated by ss forum members and ex members.....

and....

well.....

im not a happy camper

for the record i love, adore, admire, and damn near worship him

i feel very protetive of him

and 20 minutes ago in our chat i asked him how safe he felt here, from 0-10

he said 3

That, is not ok.

I gave him my word i was going to change that.
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new "justice system" on ss

im thinking.... of a new system

and for those of u who dont know me, my name is steve hein

i am a writer.

i had my own very successful computer consulting business in dallas texas. i pretty much retired at the age of 29 or 30.

i have an MBA degree.

i graduated in the top 2% of my class. I was "rewarded" with this piece of paper calling me a Sord Scholar.

I was in the National Honor society in high school.

As a senior I won first in the class in both Spanish and French

I went to Indiana University where I was in the honors program

I graduated with a 3.8 out of 4.0 grade point average.

I was taking university level classes as an undergrad.

I was also sexually abused there by Maurice Garnier when I was 18. You can read about it on my website eqi.org

My website has been number one on google for emotional intelligence and emotional abuse.

I wrote a book called EQ for Everybody in 1996. There is a free copy of the original book on my website. There is a shortened version in pdf for available for free online

I created the "mom test." Over 100 questions to tell you if you have an emotionally abusive mother.

I was trained in suicide prevention and phone crisis counseling in Tampa Florida

I have traveled to around 60 countries.

I have lived in about 7.

I currently live in Uruguay.

I co-authored a book called Letters From the Unloved - a book about depressed, suicidal, self harming teens

It shows clearly how emotionally abusive and neglectful parents are the number one cause of teen depression, self harm and suicide.

It is available on Lulu.com in paperback version. You can also find free pdf copies online now.

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(06-26-2017 07:54 PM)stevehein Wrote:  
(06-26-2017 05:30 PM)Hansgrohe Wrote:  lol this thread got bumped

ofc no one is joining

this forum is going the way of yugoslavia

stop putting down the forum - u are undermining me and soul

thats worth a couple of warning points at least.

Yes, I literally made a thread about this once and Soul refused to do it, saying that "she liked things the way they were", and I'm just paraphrasing a quote from that thread.

And really? I should be warned for "undermining" you? What's next, I need to respect your authority?



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Also, I'm not gonna quote the rest: why are you going to ban users who don't watch your content? Like, what? For the record; I never hated you. I even thought you were kind of cool. But I'm not going to turn a blind eye towards what seems like a power grab for the forums.

The fact that Vonunov, who has been one of the more liked forumers for the past few years, was banned, is just beyond me. At this point I'm wondering if School Survival is dead now. This feels very patronizing; like school.

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(06-27-2017 04:04 AM)Hansgrohe Wrote:  At this point I'm wondering if School Survival is dead now. This feels very patronizing; like school.

I've had that feeling almost since I joined, still here.


This place will never be completely dead as long as it's the only sort-of-anti-school forum in existence.
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(06-27-2017 07:55 AM)Jop Wrote:  
(06-27-2017 04:04 AM)Hansgrohe Wrote:  At this point I'm wondering if School Survival is dead now. This feels very patronizing; like school.

I've had that feeling almost since I joined, still here.

I felt this way back in 2014 during the Great Rift, lol

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holy shit.

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Quote:The fact that Vonunov, who has been one of the more liked forumers for the past few years, was banned, is just beyond me.

To be fair, I guess that was a mistake or whoever it was changed their mind, because the ban notice disappeared shortly after, and I could post. But I did think it was funny, in light of the fact that I'd been doing almost nothing but thanking posts that accurately described some of my perspective on these issues.
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