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A Sudbury School Quote I Really Like
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"I didn’t really think about getting an education. I didn’t understand the idea of having to artificially ‘get’ an education. I thought that you lived in the world and you got smarter because every day you were learning. I thought that there was no way to get dumber unless you were erasing stuff out of your brain. It seemed to me that one day you were talking to someone about one subject and another day you were talking to someone about another, and that eventually you would get around to all of them."

"People would ask, ‘What classes do you do?’. And you’d think, ‘classes? We don’t do classes, you know. Look around. There are no classrooms here.’ They’d say, ‘What did you learn today?’ And we’d think, ‘What did we learn today? What are you talking about?’ Because it wasn’t as if you went into the library and learned your facts for the day. You had a dozen conversations with people. We weren’t learning subject by subject. We were learning in a much more organic manner. You would be doing a lot of different things and you would learn them in little bits and pieces that would start adding up to much bigger pictures. You wouldn’t really know where it came from a lot of the time. By the time you were done learning about something, information was coming from so many different sources, from books and from people you were talking to, and from a long drawn out experience, that you had no idea how you learned it."

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Please tell me you actually sat through that hour long interview with Dan Greenberg too. That was some good stuff

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(01-31-2017 07:39 AM)the Analogist Wrote:  Please tell me you actually sat through that hour long interview with Dan Greenberg too. That was some good stuff

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Um2c9o25nfM "What Sudbury Valley is About"

I was putting this off because of the length for a while then I forgot. I just watched it and I love this guy's ideas.
"To train children to become viable members of a democratic community is to immerse them in a democratic community from the very earliest age." Heck yes. I find it so weird when people talk about needing to, "Prepare young people for adulthood," yet we are deprived of experiencing the basics of that kind life.

Also, the interviewer said that they didn't HAVE to vote. This whole time I thought they had to and it didn't seem to fit with the school's philosophy. Now I know the reality~

"Humans are naturally curious."
"What your saying is opening places for possibilities to emerge."
"In your school kids are supposed to do what they like."
"The school is completely ungraded, it's like a community."
"The most important thing I think anyone can do in this school is play."
"I want kids to be confident in their ability to make structures in their minds."
"The only thing we want for them is the ability to be responsible for themselves."
"If a person wants to become a doctor of course he's gonna learn how to read.""...in like a month." "He doesn't sit through six years..."
"Not everyone learns math..." "I don't know if Mozart needed math and I don't care" "It's not important to everybody to have the same set of basics."
"The only way people can relate to each other as people is if there is no hidden power one has over the other."

<3 Fucking golden! This interview summed up most of I believe/ have read about... (*-*)



(Also I wish they stayed sitting in the rain. :u )

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important point about the video for cynics and skeptics. the school was about 20 years old at the time of that interview, and its about 50 years old now.

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"I’M BEGGING YOU, PRINCE ZUKO! It’s time for you to look inward and begin asking yourself the big question: who are you and what do YOU want?"
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The way that I think about education is that you can't achieve it, it can't be measured, and it doesn't just end when you turn 18. Oh, and just like anything else, it can't be force fed.

I HATE my school. I'd rather die than go to school for another 6 years.Fu
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