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It's still MORALLY theft,even if it's not LEGALLY theft
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Avatar Korra Offline
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It's still MORALLY theft,even if it's not LEGALLY theft

They only wanted a laptop, and only agreed because they'd get the laptop. Having one sometimes is better than not having one at all, though they'd prefer to have one without the condition.

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It's still MORALLY theft,even if it's not LEGALLY theft

right but that's an ideal situation, this isn't, there are conditions attached to having the laptop. one could argue it shows an awful lack of maturity in the child to disregard the conditions and only think about the laptop.

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It's still MORALLY theft,even if it's not LEGALLY theft

I don't find it immature to rebel against unfair conditions that shouldn't exist in the first place, I find it understandable.

I see it like(I'm gonna use a more extreme example since I understand those easier) if someone kidnapped a person you loved and said, "I'll give them back to you, once you break my friend out of prison." It would be understandable if you attempted to find and take your loved one back instead of doing the undesirable task, because the kidnapper shouldn't have coerced you into doing it in the first place.

"I’M BEGGING YOU, PRINCE ZUKO! It’s time for you to look inward and begin asking yourself the big question: who are you and what do YOU want?"
" While it is always best to believe in one’s self, a little help from others can be a great blessing"
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RE: It's still MORALLY theft,even if it's not LEGALLY theft

(06-24-2017 09:58 AM)Gwedin Wrote:  ...the child is clearly being forced to consent to it if they want the laptop but what's wrong with that? no good behaviour, no laptop.

what's wrong is that it is pure behavior control. no or little regard for the feelings and needs of the child/teen

i make a distinction between child and teen btw

and just for the record i believe parents have way too much power over children and teens - i include legal/financial/physical/emotional power
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