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Brainwashing and how to avoid it
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Brainwashing and how to avoid it

This'l mostly be a collection of links and quotes; there are a lot of resources on the net, and I prefer giving credit where it is due.

I think teens, pre-teens and adults who haven't yet struck out on their own are at risk of being brainwashed by their schools, other institutions of "authority", and their families. There are a lot of people trying to sink their claws into the minds of young people, because to them we are just a resource to be used to their ends. I hope this helpsSmile

Wikihow-How to recognize and avoid brainwashing

Quote:Understand that those who attempt to brainwash others tend to prey upon the weak and vulnerable. Not everyone is a target for mind control, but certain people are more susceptible to forms of it at different times. A skillful manipulator knows what to look for and targets people who are going through a difficult period in their life or a change that may or may not be of their own making. Possible candidates include:
People who have lost their jobs and fear for their future.
Recently divorced people, particularly when the divorce was a bitter one.[3]
Those suffering from lingering illness, especially one they don’t understand.
People who have lost a loved one, particularly if they were very close to that person and had few other friends.
Young people away from home for the first time. These are particular favorites of religious cult leaders.[4]
One particular predatory tactic is to find out enough information about the person and his or her belief system to explain the tragedy the person has experiencing in a manner consistent with that belief system. This can later be expanded to explain history in general through that belief system, while subtly modifying it to the brainwasher’s interpretation.

This website goes into detail. In short, the steps involved in brainwashing someone are:
Quote:1. Isolation
2. Monopolization of Perception
3. Induced Debility & Exhaustion
4. Threats
5. Occasional Indulgences
6. Demonstrating “Omnipotence”
7. Enforcing Trivial Demands
8. Degradation

It's scary how well school (in hindsight) and my family followed these steps.
Here are some more that I can remember now:

1. The "You brought this on yourself"
The abuser/brainwasher inflicts the so-called "consequences of your actions" onto you; only, these are arbitrary punishments they have set. They are not natural consequences of anything, as your abuser wants you to think.

2. The "Do not make me punish you"
Like the above one, nobody is making them do anything. Nobody is forcing them to punish you. These are actions they have taken on their own.

Both of the above tactics are designed to make you accept a reality that does not exist - where the one abusing you is god; where their words are the truth.

Don't play chess with pigeons-they'll just knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut about like they won anyway.
-the Internet

Quote:May the days and months of flowing bitterness be rewarded...
To forget!?

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Quote:1. Decrypt media spin.

The media uses many different tools and angles to sensationalize things that aren’t inherently sensational. “Experts generally agree” can mean a community college professor and “recent surveys find” can mean the polling of 10 people.

Be wary of any claims where the sources aren’t explicitly stated. (See this article for understanding media spin.)

2. Break through the hype.

Have you ever noticed that the most genuinely talented people don’t feel the need to convince you of their ability? If something is authentically awesome, it advertises itself.

All hype isn’t necessarily bad, but having some man scream at you about the amazing cleaning power of OxyClean is most likely an attempt to scare you into believing something.

3. Don’t buy into scare tactics.

This approach is most popular among the military. This is for an obvious reason: to make you conform and adhere to the purpose of the larger whole. On one hand, I understand why they have to do what they do. But on the other, I am wary of any group the discourages questioning the command. If you don’t think the purpose of your troop’s mission ethical, sorry, you don’t get an opinion. If you don’t agree with the chain of command, too bad.

Sometimes we think there is no other choice but to follow the leader with our heads down. But if we just look a little further, there’s usually another way we didn’t see before.

4. Survey says.

Surveys and statistics are often skewed to support the agenda of the presenter. Just because a survey says something, doesn’t mean you have to believe it. Even if it’s from a reputable source, keep in mind that everyone has an agenda. Even Green Peace. Even Obama. Even your mom.

5. Be conscious of subliminal messages.

Advertisers have cleverly discovered that they can sell you something much easier if it’s associated with a certain lifestyle. A Mercedes equals luxury and high class; a Jeep means you’re rugged and adventurous. Cut through the BS. You define the way you live; your lifestyle doesn’t define you.

6. Don’t be a sheep.

The word “authority” derives from the word author, which simply means the one who originated the idea. It doesn’t mean they are right, or that they are the end of the line. Get as many different opinions as possible before making a decision and trust your common sense.

7. Be certain, or circumvent.

Have you ever noticed that extremely enthusiastic people have an uncanny ability to sway others? Their unshakeable certainty lures others into follow them, simply because they don’t have a strong opinion one way or the other. If you don’t know, don’t let someone else’s certainty force you to make a choice. Do your own research and come to your own conclusion.

8. Listen to your gut.

Follow your gut/intuition. If you think something’s shady, chances are it is. Your mind will usually want to prolong making a decision until it gets all the facts straight. You’ll usually find that after you’ve sorted everything out your gut was right all along. Save yourself some time and trust yourself.

9. Avoid groupthink.

Following the crowd is fine if you’re making that choice consciously. We’ve all heard the saying “if so and so told you to jump off a cliff, would you do it?” I always thought that that was the most idiotic question. That doesn’t prove anything. That’s just stupid. And it’s not what I’m talking about here.

What I mean is following the group because you’re afraid of standing out. You’re afraid of being seen, being heard. Because, geez, if you do that you might actually have to defend your opinion.

Don’t be afraid to be different. Gandhi was different. Einstein was different. People used to think they were crazy, radical and had possible birth defects (just kidding). Now they are considered geniuses.

10. Don’t be a trend-junkie.

“Newly reformulated” shaving cream is often just a newly reformulated packaging design. If you have to buy a new version of your camera, phone, or iPod every 6 months, are you buying it, or is it buying you? Do you really own your things, or do they own you?

This is a bit..odd to read, I get a vaguely condescending feel from it.

Quote:Step 1: Know the Signs of Cult Thinking and Brainwashing.

One thing you'll want to do is assess the behaviors of the proponents and believers. If they fit the behavior of a cult, you'll want to proceed with caution. The Orange Papers has a huge list of symptoms to watch out for.

Here are some hot ones:

-Proponents/believers make personal attacks against you if you don't accept their claims and/or declare that you're morally/spiritually inferior.

-Proponents/believers claim that critical thinking and examination is bad and tell you things like "that's just your ego talking!", or "Satan's influencing your mind!", or "You only feel/think this way because you're not pure enough!" when you ask too many questions or express doubt.

-Proponents/believers call you derogatory names if you question them or express doubt - EG, "sheeple," "corpse muncher," "fur fag," "dirty hippie," "treehugger," "scoffer," or "doubter."

-Insist that their way is the only way.

-Deny or badly explain away new discoveries that don't fit their ideologies.

-See everything in black and white - if you're not with them (and therefore one of the "good guys"), you're an enemy and one of the "bad guys."

-Won't tolerate criticism and sweep bad experiences or failures under the rug.

-Vehemently deny being brainwashed and/or give a bizarre and illogical explanation as to why they aren't brainwashed despite displaying a great number of symptoms.

Step 2: Learn to Recognize Logical Fallacies.

You can take the wind out of a lot of bull if you know how to recognize logical fallacies. This site has some good information.

Here are some common ones:

Ad Hominem: Instead of attacking an argument or claim, the person attacks the person making the argument. ("You're just a closed-minded meanie! Why should we listen to you?")

Begging the Question: Drawing a conclusion from a premise that is not demonstrated to be true. ("Fairies ate my tomatoes, so I should set fairy traps!" or "Using red flyswatters makes people more violent, so we should outlaw red flyswatters!")

Slippery Slope: Claiming that one thing will lead to another, even though there's no good reason to assume thus. ("If we legalize gay marriage, bestiality will be next!")

Appeal to Antiquity: Claiming that something is superior because it's what we've always had or the way it's always been done. ("We've always worn fur. Why should I stop doing something we've always done?")

Appeal to Novelty: Claiming that something is superior because it's new. ("Ugh, doing it that way is for old fuddy-duddies. You're not going to be an old fuddy-duddy, are you?")

Appeal to Nature: Claiming something is desirable because it's natural, or undesirable because it's unnatural. ("Don't take that unnatural synthetic insulin! Try my all-natural snake oil instead!")

Bandwagon Fallacy: Claiming that something is superior because everyone's doing, using, or trying it. ("Try Super-Sugar-Cola! The new soft-drink everyone's chugging! ")

Straw Man: Misrepresenting your opponent so that his or her argument appears so absurd, it's easy to destroy. ("Evolutionists think cells appeared when lightning struck a rock!")

Appeal to Authority: Quoting someone famous when A: he/she isn't a credible source, B: he/she was joking, or C: what he/she said doesn't actually support the view you think it supports. ("Stephen Hawking just said he believes in alien life. This makes my theory that mice came from outer space more believable!")

False Dichotomy: Presenting only two options or solutions when in reality three or more are available.

Step 3: Arm Yourself With the Baloney Detection Kit.

Michael Shermer's Baloney Detection Kit has a lot of great tips to help you detect... well, baloney. Just in case anything happens to the video, here's the gist of it:

How reliable is the source of the claim?
--Are mistakes in the data random, or do they slant toward a particular bias or belief?
----If YES, then suspect an agenda.

Does the source make similar claims?
--Does the source make claims that are part of a larger 'package' - IE, does a believer in UFOs also believe in crystals, telepathy, etc.
----If YES, you might have someone so open-minded their brains have fallen out.

Have the claims been verified by somebody else?
--Has anyone else confirmed, or verified the claims, or tested them and got the same results?
----If NO, something else is probably going on.

Does this fit in the way with the world works?
--If aliens built pyramids, we should find no trace of *human* tools and trash, but possibly traces of alien tools. We find Egyptian trash.
----If NO, the claim is suspect.

Has anyone tried to disprove the claim?
--Positive claims require tests to make sure that something else isn't going on, or that there isn't a better explantion. A responsible researcher does this.
----If NO, then you don't have a responsible researcher.

Where does the preponderance of evidence point?
--Does the bulk of actual evidence point to the theory the claimant is proposing, or does it fit another theory better?
----If NO, suspect whackjob.

Is the claimant playing by the rules of science?
--Are they using logic, reason, empirical evidence, and testing, or are they just trying to make a case for their particular claim?
----If NO to the first and YES to the second, then suspect crackpot.

Is the claimant providing positive evidence?
--It's not enough to have negative evidence against the opposing theory; you must have positive evidence for your own theory.
----If NO, then pseudoscience.

Does the new theory account for as many phenomena as the old theory?
--A new model of physics that doesn't explain as much as Newton or Einstein's theories is simply useless.
----If NO, then the theory is no good.

Are personal beliefs driving the claim?
--Examples including Big Business being skeptical of global warming, or YECs being skeptical of evolution.
----If YES, suspect an agenda.

Step 4: Check Out Other Points of View.

See what the critics and skeptics have to say about something, or see what people who abandoned the idea or belief have to say, and why they say it. Be prepared to spend not hours, but even days or months doing research. Always keep an eye out for new information that could enlighten you.

Remember: Not everyone's opinion carries the same weight! The opinions of a highschool dropout who doesn't believe in evolution because A: the Bible says everything was created in six days and B: can't imagine how the diversity of life could be here without being specially created does not carry the same weight as a biologist who has spent years doing research on the subject.

Warning 1: Be aware that some people who call themselves skeptics are in fact denialists and reactionaries who simply brush things off or attack them because they don't fit their current ideas of how the world works or would interfere with their current way of life, not because they've truly examined the claims and evidence for the claims in any great depth.

Warning 2: Studies funded by special interest groups tend to be rather unreliable - IE, the tobacco industry's study "proving" that smoking doesn't really cause lung cancer. Also, some groups may quote documents out of context to make it appear that someone said something that supports their position when they didn't, or take selected remarks to make it appear that someone would have supported a position they may not have. For example, extreme animal rights activists love to quote Ghandi's pro-vegetarian remarks, but ignore his rather scathing comments on veganism that comes at the cost of human health. (Scroll to the bottom of this step to read it.)

Warning 3: Some "experts" may be anything but. There are a lot of pseudoscientists out there. It helps to research the expert to help determine if he/she has a religious, moral, or political axe to grind or is being paid by someone who does.

The crores of India today get neither milk nor ghee nor butter, nor even buttermilk. No wonder that mortality figures are on the increase and there is a lack of energy in the people. It would appear as if man is really unable to sustain life without either meat or milk and milk products. Anyone who deceives people in this regard or countenances the fraud is an enemy of India." - Mohandas Ghandi, 1946

Step 5: Don't Get So Stuck on One View That You Can't Change Your Mind.

Be willing to revise your current picture on the world based on what you learn in the future. Don't get an idea of how you think the world is or ought to be and insist that it's the truth forevermore. If you do, you're no better than the people whose baloney you were trying to avoid in the first place.

When looking for answers, try no to be an ass to those who disagree with you, no matter how tempting it is. Even if they're asses to you. Especially if they're asses to you.

Don't dismiss ideas just because they don't jive with what you're certain would make the world a better place. A problem with many peoples' utopias is that the steps to get there just aren't doable.

Good luck!



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Don't play chess with pigeons-they'll just knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut about like they won anyway.
-the Internet

Quote:May the days and months of flowing bitterness be rewarded...
To forget!?

(This post was last modified: 03-31-2017 03:58 AM by Rule_BreakerXVIII.)
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Heartless bitches International has a good list too. They delve into man-hating more than a few times tho...

The red flag list

Two more lists

And their Manipulator files.

Don't play chess with pigeons-they'll just knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut about like they won anyway.
-the Internet

Quote:May the days and months of flowing bitterness be rewarded...
To forget!?

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I'd say this is mostly solid advice though this could be made up as a guide of some sort.

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