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If you don't beleve God, it's ok. I'm not here to offend any religion. My arguments anti-school are based in the religion I beliveWasntme.

Many people relate school with God (my mom, for example, started to think that I was puckish when she discovered I was anti-schoolNooRofl). At some schools, students are taught about religion, others are exclusive for this: catecheses. Consequently, good students are pre-judged to go to the Heaven (this is already a thing God abominate, because of it, He only judges us after death), and bad students are pre-judged to go to the hell.

I think (I can use this term right here, because there isn't any teacher looking! :mwahaha:Haha!) the so-implanted-in-our-culture system is going to carry us, all of us to the Bible's Apocalypse (apocalypse described at Bibble). We can analyze history facts and confirm it: Hitler was a attempt of Antichrist. Schools was used to control students (innocent kids and adolescents) to make them be pro-Hitler. You can already link the points. When the final Antichrist get some control, the first thing he/she is goin' to do is: indoctrinate youth using school!

We must ban the school system from our world as faster as possible.

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Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn.

Hello, traveler.

This is an ancient account I have not used in a long time. My views have changed much in the intervening months and years.

Nonetheless, I refuse to clean it up. Pretending that I've held my current views since the beginning of time is what we in the industry call a lie. Asking people to do so contributes to moralistic self-loathing. "See, those people have nothing damning! I do! I'm truly vile!"

Because you can never be a good person with a single blemish on the moral record, I thought that simply entertaining some thoughts made me irredeemable. Though I don't care for his writing style, William Faulkner presents a good counterexample. He went from being a typical Southern racist to supporting the civil rights movement. These days we'd yell at him for that, probably.

People are allowed to change their views.

Nevertheless, this period of my life has informed some of how I am today. In good ways and bad ways. To purge it would be to do a disservice to history. Perhaps it will not make anyone sympathetic, but it may help someone understand.

If, after reading all this, you still decide to use the post above as evidence that I am evil today, ask yourself if you have never disagreed with the moral code you now follow. In all likelihood you did, at some point. If some questions are verboten, and the answer is "how dare you ask that," don't expect your ideological opponents to ever change their minds.
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I used to think and even talk like that, ashamed as I am to say it.

Thing is, though, the end of the world is kind of irrelevant, and there's no benefit to fretting over who or what will cause it. Worry - whether about damnation, rapture, or demons - is just a distraction from what's truly important. The insidious machinations you speak of are more pathetic than you know, fated to fail, and not worthy of your concern. If you must magnify anything, at least make it God, alright?

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I'll go you one better with the satanic argument.

Evil and Good are like seeds, and their trees surely resemble their seeds. Of course, nothing is pure, and so goes that spectrum, so too will you find some good from evil people.

The intent to control and direct society at large, especially by compulsion, is not just the job of Allah's, and so arrogant to presume it for yourself, but its evil is exemplified and its ultimate fate shown by the example of Fir'aun (Pharoah). The way of all tyrants is to bring all of society under your command, and it is never done for altruisic ends. As was the case in America, borrowing from prussia, just as an obedient army can ne trained and coerced so too can the population in general be renedered useless except in response to directives originating from the top. This is indeed an old story.

Luckily for us. I dont think the time is yet for us to retreat into our proverbial desert to escape our tyranical school system. We can opt out, organize, and in other ways disobey forcing their hand to strike first or leave us be. Remember what happened to King John? Perhaps one day as the parents of tomorrow we decide that we've had enough of this system, and perhaps at that time we bully all the school administrators and corrupt politicians to get our property taxes lowered, our school abolished or drastically reformed, and people once again allowed to raise their children as THEY see fit.

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Oh boy, let's hope we don't get too crazy with this one.

I was raised as a Christian. I'm struggling with doubts right now. I don't doubt God's existence. However, I do wonder if God truly loves me.

Quote:Many people relate school with God (my mom, for example, started to think that I was puckish when she discovered I was anti-schoolNooRofl). At some schools, students are taught about religion, others are exclusive for this: catecheses. Consequently, good students are pre-judged to go to the Heaven (this is already a thing God abominate, because of it, He only judges us after death), and bad students are pre-judged to go to the hell.
This is an interesting thing you say. As far as I understand the Bible, you go to heaven or hell based on your faith in God. School and other worldly things are irrelevant. As for school, we are fed stuff about how you need to do well in school in order to avoid impending doom and gloom. So, Christianity is about your faith, and school is about your works.

Quote: I think (I can use this term right here, because there isn't any teacher looking! :mwahaha:Haha!) the so-implanted-in-our-culture system is going to carry us, all of us to the Bible's Apocalypse (apocalypse described at Bibble).
The Bible does talk about an Apocalypse but it doesn't give us a date. So if some preacher (like Harold Camping in 2011) says he's worked out a date based on the Bible, don't believe them. In fact, the Bible says that only God the Father knows when the world will end. (Matthew 24:36) It also says that God will come at a time when people don't expect it. (Matthew 24:44)

Quote:We can analyze history facts and confirm it: Hitler was a attempt of Antichrist.
Um...I don't think attempt is the right word. I wouldn't be surprised if the Anti-Christ was like Hitler in many regards. But God knows when the end will happen.

Quote:Schools was used to control students (innocent kids and adolescents) to make them be pro-Hitler. You can already link the points.
Well, I can't argue with that. School does indoctrinate and control you to a degree.

Quote:When the final Antichrist get some control, the first thing he/she is goin' to do is: indoctrinate youth using school!
It's possible.

Quote: The intent to control and direct society at large, especially by compulsion, is not just the job of Allah's, and so arrogant to presume it for yourself, but its evil is exemplified and its ultimate fate shown by the example of Fir'aun (Pharoah). The way of all tyrants is to bring all of society under your command, and it is never done for altruisic ends. As was the case in America, borrowing from prussia, just as an obedient army can ne trained and coerced so too can the population in general be renedered useless except in response to directives originating from the top. This is indeed an old story.
While I'm not a Muslim I can't really argue with this. Oftentimes people seek power for selfish ends. But then again, maybe I feel this way because I've a cynical view of humanity.

Quote: Luckily for us. I dont think the time is yet for us to retreat into our proverbial desert to escape our tyranical school system. We can opt out, organize, and in other ways disobey forcing their hand to strike first or leave us be. Remember what happened to King John? Perhaps one day as the parents of tomorrow we decide that we've had enough of this system, and perhaps at that time we bully all the school administrators and corrupt politicians to get our property taxes lowered, our school abolished or drastically reformed, and people once again allowed to raise their children as THEY see fit.
We're going to have to work to get people on our side in order to do so.

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Yes, we will eventually have to talk to these "people" in our communities... yuck!

But seriously, yeah. Eventually I'm going to do the harder thing and try to locally promote my Three Category System

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To counter some of the "school is the devil" arguments, I suggest everyone chill the fuck out.

First off, calling something, whether that be a person, place, thing, idea, object, etc satanic is a good example of what I'd like to call a bombshell word. It's an incredibly strong word that distorts any kind of saneness in an argument, or legitimate reasoning.

Second, let's take another step back and look at the other things that get called satanic. Pokemon, certain forms of music, clothing, etc. I generally consider using the word satanic to immediately make the argument irrelevant. I seriously doubt most people who are creating this things are possessed 24/7 by Satan himself, not to mention humans tend to personify a lot of things, and give them meanings that don't necessarily exist. Remember the Bible was written thousands of years ago; many modern things didn't even exist, not even as concepts. If they did, they were totally different from today.

Personally, I don't think school is satanic. I do think, that in other ways, it's creepy as fuck. The method of teaching is through indoctrinating young kids with a philosophy of obedience and conformity. It's almost like a cult. Hell, in senior year, we had this leadership shit which made them look like they were some kind of state police, with uniforms and shit.

So, I think the OP does have some reasoning behind him. Remember kids, beware of bombshell words.

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Quote: So, I think the OP does have some reasoning behind him. Remember kids, beware of bombshell words.

I think you brought up a good point. The public school system is bad, but perhaps we'd be blowing things out of portion to call it Satanic. Not to mention there are things which people call Satanic when it's not at all valid (for example, people call Pokemon Go Satanic). That being said, I wouldn't be surprised if there was a real Satan, sending his minions to possess some people and deceive others.

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Yeah, if we're going to discuss that, there's a section on religion anyway.

It's more accurate to call the school system cult-like, if not like a dictatorship.

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Well, as for my thinking, I feel it is useful to connect policy decisions with intent, and to connect intent with character.

A natural flow chart can be made starting from arrogance, which in terms of character is the worst sin in Islam. To that end, I say that actions stemming from arrogance need to be called out as such. Not "evil" per se, but every decision has some rationale behind it. When asking the question "why is it so important thay every kid go to school?" Any answer confirming that compulsion will have as its foundation the idea that we both CAN and SHOULD try to control society. Once you remove compulsion and allow people to opt out you are no longer in that camp of force and you acquiesce to fate/destiny/the command of Allah with regards to the direction your society will head.

If the Prophets were indeed receiving revelation from God himself, surely they have the best claim to make that everybody should be forced to learn from them. They would have instituted these laws and make their curriculum the only acceptable way. Instead we see that later generation fanatics decide to do this, but I dont think we have any example in the Bible of Jesus (as) ordering his disciples to round up and rough up the Israelites because its time for class now. Nothing of the sort from Muhammad (saws) either.

The proper way to help society as a whole is with your family, friends, and your greater community to personally invite towards the good, help when you can, respect people enough to let them make their own mistakes, be there to forgive them, offer a helping hand, a listening ear, and insightful advice.

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If I read that right, school is evil because it simply tries to force change, and enforce a bullshit ideology (conformity and obedience), and goes against real morals.

Fair enough.

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(08-11-2016 10:20 AM)UnicornLionWolf Wrote:  when it's not at all valid (for example, people call Pokemon Go Satanic)

Not a very good example as "Pokémon Go" is a fake/counterfeit game...
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TBH if there is anything I believe to be satanic it's Pokemon Go. Remove all depth from an already mostly depthless game concept and it spreads like wildfire? There has to be some kind of black magic behind that.

And that black magic can be yours for only $49.99... guaranteed to fix your marriage!

Hello, traveler.

This is an ancient account I have not used in a long time. My views have changed much in the intervening months and years.

Nonetheless, I refuse to clean it up. Pretending that I've held my current views since the beginning of time is what we in the industry call a lie. Asking people to do so contributes to moralistic self-loathing. "See, those people have nothing damning! I do! I'm truly vile!"

Because you can never be a good person with a single blemish on the moral record, I thought that simply entertaining some thoughts made me irredeemable. Though I don't care for his writing style, William Faulkner presents a good counterexample. He went from being a typical Southern racist to supporting the civil rights movement. These days we'd yell at him for that, probably.

People are allowed to change their views.

Nevertheless, this period of my life has informed some of how I am today. In good ways and bad ways. To purge it would be to do a disservice to history. Perhaps it will not make anyone sympathetic, but it may help someone understand.

If, after reading all this, you still decide to use the post above as evidence that I am evil today, ask yourself if you have never disagreed with the moral code you now follow. In all likelihood you did, at some point. If some questions are verboten, and the answer is "how dare you ask that," don't expect your ideological opponents to ever change their minds.
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Force comes from an ego that says control is in my power and is my job. Juxtapose that with the preaching of the prophets. When appointed by God to represent the Truth, there is no force. When appointed by ego, all sorts of rights get violated

Black magic is prohibited in Islam. Pokemon go is not black magic, but I can see where people get confused

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The Analogist, you were two years too late. We once had a black magic spambot attack... the good days.

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(08-12-2016 04:47 AM)Hansgrohe Wrote:  We once had a black magic spambot attack... the good days.

And not just once either.
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(08-13-2016 04:03 AM)the Analogist Wrote:  Has anyone else blocked username?

I used to. Then I learned a neat trick - I can ignore people by tuning them out instead of adding them to a block list.

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(08-13-2016 04:03 AM)the Analogist Wrote:  Has anyone else blocked username?

I haven't used the block feature since the whole DnE business of 2014 (thank god THAT'S over with)

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I love how this is being discussed after one of my least offensive posts.
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