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Yes, we're going here.

WHAT IS THIS NOFAP?


NoFap, in its essence, is the abstention of masturbation for a moratorium amount of time. Usually, pornography and kinks are included, as well as edging and ejaculation (not including wet dreams/spontaneous emissions). Some people simply abstain from masturbating and porn, while others abstain completely from sex (celibacy) or even sexual thoughts (monk mode).

WHY DO PEOPLE ABSTAIN FROM MASTURBATION?


For various reasons. For some people, it is out of religious practice. For many other people, they feel addicted to constant masturbation and pornography (PMO = porn, masturbation, orgasm), and they feel it kills their motivation (not all frequent masturbators are porn addicts). Some do it for health reasons, and these can be out of doctor's orders, though many believe that semen retention is linked to health benefits (though not conclusive), or for better sex lives. Some people just do it as a challenge in self-discipline.

WHAT ARE THE BENEFITS OF NOFAP?

Since NoFap is a very new practice (the modern NoFap community has only existed since 2011), there are very few scientific studies done on it, most inconclusive. However, from anecdotes around the community:

SURGEON GENERAL'S WARNING: NONE OF THESE BENEFITS ARE GUARANTEED, NOR IS NOFAP A MAGIC CURE-ALL. SOME PEOPLE MAY EXPERIENCE THEM, OTHERS NOT SO MUCH, OR VARIED PATTERNS. I DO NOT CONDONE THESE OPINIONS, I'M JUST REPORTING WHAT'S BEEN SAID.

*Positive effects on the body's testosterone (this has been demonstrated)
*Reduction of social anxiety
*Harder, bigger, erections
*Increase in self-confidence
*Much more confidence with women/men/whatever
*Alleviation of depression
*Much more motivation
*Better attention span and memory
*Better sexual experiences
*Return of wet dreams
*Reduction of ance
*Reduction of "brain fog"
*Increase in penis size (I'm not joking, this has been reported)

Of course, others have reported other benefits, some have had different experiences. Again, none of these are guaranteed, and these are anecdotes, so be very skeptical if you choose to NoFap.

WHAT ARE THE POTENTIAL NEGATIVE EFFECTS OF MASTURBATION/PORN ADDICTION?

Masturbation in itself isn't considered unhealthy. It's a very natural human action, and may be beneficial for some. However, like anything, masturbation can develop into a bad habit, or even an addiction. I'm not one to say anything here, I'll give my opinion on masturbation in the end of this thread.

Porn, on the other hand, is much more insidious. The effects of porn addiction in men aren't well understood by mainstream science, and even less so is it understood in women. There haven't been many studies on porn addiction, but many psychology associations have been calling on the DSM-5 and American Society of Addiction Medicine to classify porn addiction.

There have been many reports that pornography causes a kind of erectile dysfunction in men, in that men find it harder to get aroused in normal sexual situations, because of exposure to various levels of porn.

Porn has also deeper psychological effects. It's been reported that porn re-enforces negative images of women. These feelings may appear as disappointment or expectation or even sexism. Porn is considered dehumanizing.

IS NOFAP JUST FOR MEN?

Of course not. Anyone who is looking to kick the habit is welcome, though NoFap has been overwhelmingly male.

Conclusion
I started NoFap around April this year because I needed to be more focused, energized, etc. While I wasn't really addicted to porn, I feel I was risking becoming much more reliant on it, and developing an addiction.

I completely abstained from masturbation in July, and my life feels so much better. I feel like I can connect to people more, I feel much more energized, I feel like enjoying life more. I feel like a better person with much more confidence. I don't think I could go back to masturbating.

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Confidence caused the challenger disaster. Confidence is immoral.

Hello, traveler.

This is an ancient account I have not used in a long time. My views have changed much in the intervening months and years.

Nonetheless, I refuse to clean it up. Pretending that I've held my current views since the beginning of time is what we in the industry call a lie. Asking people to do so contributes to moralistic self-loathing. "See, those people have nothing damning! I do! I'm truly vile!"

Because you can never be a good person with a single blemish on the moral record, I thought that simply entertaining some thoughts made me irredeemable. Though I don't care for his writing style, William Faulkner presents a good counterexample. He went from being a typical Southern racist to supporting the civil rights movement. These days we'd yell at him for that, probably.

People are allowed to change their views.

Nevertheless, this period of my life has informed some of how I am today. In good ways and bad ways. To purge it would be to do a disservice to history. Perhaps it will not make anyone sympathetic, but it may help someone understand.

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"Harder, bigger erections"
"Better sexual experiences"
"Return of wet dreams"

I don't know about the other proposed benefits, but to imply that not masturbating leads to increased sexual pleasure seems incredibly backwards to me. Masturbation is by definition sexual pleasure. What if I recommended starving yourself for a few days because you'll have "bigger, better appetites" and "more satisfying meal experiences" in the days following? If there are reasons to starve yourself, sating your appetite isn't one of them.
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(08-03-2016 03:28 PM)Aureate Wrote:  "Harder, bigger erections"
"Better sexual experiences"
"Return of wet dreams"

I don't know about the other proposed benefits, but to imply that not masturbating leads to increased sexual pleasure seems incredibly backwards to me. Masturbation is by definition sexual pleasure. What if I recommended starving yourself for a few days because you'll have "bigger, better appetites" and "more satisfying meal experiences" in the days following? If there are reasons to starve yourself, sating your appetite isn't one of them.

If the goal is maximizing satisfaction from your next meal, then yes, temporarily starving yourself would be one way of accomplishing that. The difference between that and nofap being, of course, that you don't need sexual stimulation in order to live, nor is it as hard (giggity) to abstain from masturbating as it is from eating.

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First off, the analogy is incredibly flawed - unlike food, sex is technically unnecessary for life (there are people who've died virgins or embrace celibacy, not to mention asexual people). Second, you're basically saying in order to live, I need to masturbate - I've given up masturbation for more than a month and I'm perfectly fine. There are others who've gone very long without masturbating and live perfectly normal lives. Believe me, once you get past a certain mark, you stop caring.

Second, the science of masturbation is much more different to that of eating. Of course, you can keep over-eat on junk food (instant self gratification) and you'll get fat. If you read the article linked in the OP:

Quote:Even though ejaculations seemingly have no significant effects on serum testosterone levels, they can (at least according to rodent studies) alter the body’s ability to utilize testosterone. It has been seen that after multiple ejaculations a sharp decline in androgen receptors takes place inside the hypothalamus, and not only that, but a sharp increase in estrogen receptors follows as well. One rodent study also found out that 1 or 2 ejaculations in short span of time increased androgen receptor activity in the body, while 4 or more ejaculations caused a significant drop in the activity of AR, suggesting that ejaculating yourself to “sexual exhaustion” might lower your body’s ability to utilize androgens.

Basically, theoretically, you can overfap - if you have a fapping addiction, it messes with your androgen receptors, and hence, the way your body utilizes testosterone. However, the actual effects on humans, as I say, aren't fully understood - so you have a right to be skeptical.

To go further into this, Dr. Lawrence Sark conducted a study in 1998, and (allegedly) revealed that prone masturbation (masturbating in unorthodox ways) caused anorgasmia - however, this study has never been replicated, so it's very sketchy (also, it's possible that Dr. Sark might have been describing PIED without even knowing it).
http://goaskalice.columbia.edu/answered-...ndrome-tms

Of course, if one just simply faps too much, they probably don't feel as much pleasure from sex because they're constantly orgasming. Not exactly rocket science.

To be more scientific, masturbation is pleasure; when one is tempted to watch porn and jerk off, you release dopamine, which is the body's chemical to find pleasure; when one orgasms, you release serotonin, the "feel good" reward. Excessive masturbation basically leads to one awarding themselves for nothing.
http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and...eward.html

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(08-03-2016 04:51 PM)Hansgrohe Wrote:  To be more scientific, masturbation is pleasure; when one is tempted to watch porn and jerk off, you release dopamine, which is the body's chemical to find pleasure; when one orgasms, you release serotonin, the "feel good" reward. Excessive masturbation basically leads to one awarding themselves for nothing.
http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and...eward.html

That, alone, is reason enough for me to stop. The problem is that my high sex drive annoys me, and I'm concerned that it'll rise (giggity) if I do - I don't know of any effective methods to suppress it other than regular masturbation.

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(08-03-2016 05:38 PM)Chiron Wrote:  
(08-03-2016 04:51 PM)Hansgrohe Wrote:  To be more scientific, masturbation is pleasure; when one is tempted to watch porn and jerk off, you release dopamine, which is the body's chemical to find pleasure; when one orgasms, you release serotonin, the "feel good" reward. Excessive masturbation basically leads to one awarding themselves for nothing.
http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and...eward.html

That, alone, is reason enough for me to stop. The problem is that my high sex drive annoys me, and I'm concerned that it'll rise (giggity) if I do - I don't know of any effective methods to suppress it other than regular masturbation.

I forgot to go into this. It's one thing to not fap but another to want to stop.

First off, you have to change the mindset - not "I don't want to masturbate", but simply, "I don't masturbate". It makes a hell of a difference.

Second, there are ways to better discipline yourself. A highly recommended treatment are cold showers, since they are useful as a mental building block. Exercise is another thing since it uses up energy that would normally be used for jerking it to porn.

One exercise I do to kill sudden urges is I just start jumping around to music. It's quick to do and easy. Don't let your sex drive control you - you control it.

(08-04-2016 02:36 AM)Joker Wrote:  Masturbation is for dopamine reliant caveman. Porn conditions men to be complacent bitchboys. I wasn't surprised when I first learned of this information. Birth rates are lower than ever. And contrary to popular belief about "hookup culture," millennials are having less sex than previous generations.

I will always be anti-masturbation and anti-porn. Both of these activities are selfish wastes of time.

Same, especially on porn. All porn does is just waste your time. It's not even real sex yet what it does to the mind is disturbing. It's corruption, nasty, unnatural (we've only had instant access to many kinds of porn since the 90s at the earliest), and disgusting. I hope my fellow School Survivors kick the porn habit.

However, I think you're mistaken on birth rates - contraception is much more widely available than ever, and simply not having children has become much more socially acceptable (and some governments encourage family planning).

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This guide is pretty straight male biased, but I suppose that's to be expected. Razz

Quote:"Harder, bigger erections"
"Better sexual experiences"
"Return of wet dreams"

I don't know about the other proposed benefits, but to imply that not masturbating leads to increased sexual pleasure seems incredibly backwards to me. Masturbation is by definition sexual pleasure. What if I recommended starving yourself for a few days because you'll have "bigger, better appetites" and "more satisfying meal experiences" in the days following? If there are reasons to starve yourself, sating your appetite isn't one of them.

I also found that a bit strange. But then, I'm mostly asexual and have no interest in doing sexual things with other people anyway. I realise most other people actually are interested in that, so I guess for them it makes sense.

I see the whole masturbation thing as an itch that occasionally needs scratching... nothing more. I find it interesting how much of a big deal it can be to other people.

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(08-04-2016 04:23 AM)SoulRiser Wrote:  I also found that a bit strange. But then, I'm mostly asexual and have no interest in doing sexual things with other people anyway. I realise most other people actually are interested in that, so I guess for them it makes sense.

Same. Society is weird.

(08-04-2016 04:23 AM)SoulRiser Wrote:  I see the whole masturbation thing as an itch that occasionally needs scratching...

That... is a very good analogy.

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(08-04-2016 04:23 AM)SoulRiser Wrote:  I see the whole masturbation thing as an itch that occasionally needs scratching...

I see it as something that won't stop itching.
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I have sexual urges from time to time, thank goodness they are infrequent and incredibly short lived. Being a grey asexual, I am hardly aroused and I barely want to act on sexual urges.
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(08-04-2016 05:35 AM)Cianna200 Wrote:  I am hardly aroused and I barely want to act on sexual urges.

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(08-04-2016 04:23 AM)SoulRiser Wrote:  This guide is pretty straight male biased, but I suppose that's to be expected. Razz

Indeed. Most porn studies have generally been on men, because it's historically been male-centric. Hell, most people didn't even think women could choke their chicken until the 19th century. There are more studies showing PMO exists in women, too. My theory is that most PMO talk is usually only really engaged by men. It's just not seen as "womanly" to discuss it. Then again, NoFap is something that's rather in early stages.

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Quote:"Harder, bigger erections"
"Better sexual experiences"
"Return of wet dreams"

I don't know about the other proposed benefits, but to imply that not masturbating leads to increased sexual pleasure seems incredibly backwards to me. Masturbation is by definition sexual pleasure. What if I recommended starving yourself for a few days because you'll have "bigger, better appetites" and "more satisfying meal experiences" in the days following? If there are reasons to starve yourself, sating your appetite isn't one of them.

I also found that a bit strange. But then, I'm mostly asexual and have no interest in doing sexual things with other people anyway. I realise most other people actually are interested in that, so I guess for them it makes sense.

I see the whole masturbation thing as an itch that occasionally needs scratching... nothing more. I find it interesting how much of a big deal it can be to other people.

Fair enough. For a lot of people, it's a serious issue, and more people are becoming aware of it. For many, this is a viable alternative to sex therapy, which can be VERY embarrassing.

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Quote:Same, especially on porn. All porn does is just waste your time. It's not even real sex yet what it does to the mind is disturbing. It's corruption, nasty, unnatural (we've only had instant access to many kinds of porn since the 90s at the earliest), and disgusting. I hope my fellow School Survivors kick the porn habit.

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If I didn't have it I'd commit sudoku.

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Sudoku?

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This is an ancient account I have not used in a long time. My views have changed much in the intervening months and years.

Nonetheless, I refuse to clean it up. Pretending that I've held my current views since the beginning of time is what we in the industry call a lie. Asking people to do so contributes to moralistic self-loathing. "See, those people have nothing damning! I do! I'm truly vile!"

Because you can never be a good person with a single blemish on the moral record, I thought that simply entertaining some thoughts made me irredeemable. Though I don't care for his writing style, William Faulkner presents a good counterexample. He went from being a typical Southern racist to supporting the civil rights movement. These days we'd yell at him for that, probably.

People are allowed to change their views.

Nevertheless, this period of my life has informed some of how I am today. In good ways and bad ways. To purge it would be to do a disservice to history. Perhaps it will not make anyone sympathetic, but it may help someone understand.

If, after reading all this, you still decide to use the post above as evidence that I am evil today, ask yourself if you have never disagreed with the moral code you now follow. In all likelihood you did, at some point. If some questions are verboten, and the answer is "how dare you ask that," don't expect your ideological opponents to ever change their minds.
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*Seppukku. Sudoku is... never mind, I've ruined the joke already.

Hello, traveler.

This is an ancient account I have not used in a long time. My views have changed much in the intervening months and years.

Nonetheless, I refuse to clean it up. Pretending that I've held my current views since the beginning of time is what we in the industry call a lie. Asking people to do so contributes to moralistic self-loathing. "See, those people have nothing damning! I do! I'm truly vile!"

Because you can never be a good person with a single blemish on the moral record, I thought that simply entertaining some thoughts made me irredeemable. Though I don't care for his writing style, William Faulkner presents a good counterexample. He went from being a typical Southern racist to supporting the civil rights movement. These days we'd yell at him for that, probably.

People are allowed to change their views.

Nevertheless, this period of my life has informed some of how I am today. In good ways and bad ways. To purge it would be to do a disservice to history. Perhaps it will not make anyone sympathetic, but it may help someone understand.

If, after reading all this, you still decide to use the post above as evidence that I am evil today, ask yourself if you have never disagreed with the moral code you now follow. In all likelihood you did, at some point. If some questions are verboten, and the answer is "how dare you ask that," don't expect your ideological opponents to ever change their minds.
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Why did any of you ever start masturbating or watching porn in the first place...
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(08-05-2016 05:20 AM)Jop Wrote:  Why did any of you ever start masturbating or watching porn in the first place...

Fucking hormones, mang

Update: I have gone at least 36 hours without fapping thus far. So far, so good.

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(08-05-2016 05:21 AM)Chiron Wrote:  Update: I have gone at least 36 hours without fapping thus far. So far, so good.

Wait until days 5-7. That's when the real fun starts.
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(08-05-2016 05:21 AM)Chiron Wrote:  Fucking hormones, mang

That's not how it works
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(08-05-2016 05:26 AM)Username Wrote:  
(08-05-2016 05:21 AM)Chiron Wrote:  Update: I have gone at least 36 hours without fapping thus far. So far, so good.

Wait until days 5-7. That's when the real fun starts.

Made it to day 5 a couple weeks ago, but it all fell apart after that.

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(08-05-2016 05:21 AM)Chiron Wrote:  Fucking hormones, mang

That's not how it works

The urge, at its worst, is like an itch that won't stop scratching, and masturbation provides temporarily relief for it. I never asked to feel frisky - in fact, I hate it. It's just that my body doesn't agree with me.

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So, out of curiosity... most of you get the urge to fap roughly every day then?

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(08-05-2016 06:44 AM)SoulRiser Wrote:  So, out of curiosity... most of you get the urge to fap roughly every day then?

That particular frequency tends to be a teenage/young-adult male thing, but yeah, pretty much.

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(08-05-2016 06:44 AM)SoulRiser Wrote:  So, out of curiosity... most of you get the urge to fap roughly every day then?

Men are monsters who crave young flesh. We can't be the first ones to tell you this, right?

(08-05-2016 05:20 AM)Jop Wrote:  Why did any of you ever start masturbating or watching porn in the first place...

You really have to ask?
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