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It's not even a matter of race, is it? They don't get a trial even though they could if they used non-lethal means? I mean, in all sorts of cases they can but they don't. The law isn't so important that it should be most frequently enforced with bullets, certainly? I mean come on!

"They're supposed to shoot to kill! They have to eliminate the threat!"
The dude with the gun is also a threat. Both of them.
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This isn't what I was expecting to see.
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What did you expect, then?
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Hello, traveler.

This is an ancient account I have not used in a long time. My views have changed much in the intervening months and years.

Nonetheless, I refuse to clean it up. Pretending that I've held my current views since the beginning of time is what we in the industry call a lie. Asking people to do so contributes to moralistic self-loathing. "See, those people have nothing damning! I do! I'm truly vile!"

Because you can never be a good person with a single blemish on the moral record, I thought that simply entertaining some thoughts made me irredeemable. Though I don't care for his writing style, William Faulkner presents a good counterexample. He went from being a typical Southern racist to supporting the civil rights movement. These days we'd yell at him for that, probably.

People are allowed to change their views.

Nevertheless, this period of my life has informed some of how I am today. In good ways and bad ways. To purge it would be to do a disservice to history. Perhaps it will not make anyone sympathetic, but it may help someone understand.

If, after reading all this, you still decide to use the post above as evidence that I am evil today, ask yourself if you have never disagreed with the moral code you now follow. In all likelihood you did, at some point. If some questions are verboten, and the answer is "how dare you ask that," don't expect your ideological opponents to ever change their minds.
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Lucky-Feet Wrote:What did you expect, then?

Something like "is it against your morals to kill people blah blah blah"
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That's unusual. Both of it.
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Keep in mind that "non-lethal" is something of a misnomer. Such weapons can still kill people. We're not very durable as species, especially with our current lifestyle.

IMO the "non-lethal" label was merely a marketing ploy. A fancy ad label to make it sound nice.

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True, but bullets are far worse.
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A bullet doesn't send thousands of volts through your nervous system. It just makes a hole, squishes some meat, and maybe damages an organ or two. All of which is usually repairable naturally.

AFAIK nerve damage is significantly slower for the body to repair.

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Who are "they"?

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(02-13-2016 05:44 AM)SoulRiser Wrote:  Who are "they"?

Ya know, "them"

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"They" are the cops, as described by my grandmother. Last time a teacher's vile manner had driven me to run like hell, (I tend to run from people who act aggressively towards me, at least when we're in an open space or near a door or something.) according to my grandmother the principal said that the staff can and will call the police, and then she decided to google that stuff right in front of me.... It turns out that police brutality is pretty likely to be lethal if you happen to be a student with special needs. And then there's how she sort of praises the local police for what she herself would call "bordering on bloodthirsty." If there's anything I know, I know that no matter what it is, you're probably never the only one.
That, and the fact that what you see on the news isn't even all of the times that people get killed by the police, whether there was a good reason or not.
They shoot to kill; That's what they were trained to do. They even wrestle to kill, for Pete's sake. There are better ways to use those arms, those bullets, those weapons of any sort, and better things to use them on.
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Illegal immigrants and Muslims.

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Huh?
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(02-13-2016 02:45 PM)brainiac3397 Wrote:  Illegal immigrants and Muslims.

(into Walkie Talkie) We got a Redpill over here, over.
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(02-13-2016 05:23 PM)Marsayate Wrote:  
(02-13-2016 02:45 PM)brainiac3397 Wrote:  Illegal immigrants and Muslims.

(into Walkie Talkie) We got a Redpill over here, over.

When you consider the fact I'm a Muslim and was an illegal immigrant(now I'm citizen after years of neglecting to take care of it by my father), it's actually quite funny.

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