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Intelligent people are more likely to be depressed

I figured I'd continue this discussion in a new thread, since I've been thinking about this again lately.

I'm trying to find the actual psychological studies that were supposedly done about this, but I'm not turning up much.

I did find this interesting article though:

Source: Kallokain: Why smart people get depressed, and what you can do about it

Quote:“Depression is an illness” say many well-meaning people, and “we have to start talking about it”.

It’s actually only half correct. Depression is not an illness! Depression is a collection of symptoms. It is however correct that we have to start talking about it.
Depression can have many different causes, for example physical brain damage, and a genetic disposition for depression. That type of depression can be treated medically and therapeutically. There is a third cause. A cause that is so taboo that not even the ones who say they want to talk about depression, want to talk about this particular one.

It’s a type of depression that afflicts highly talented and intelligent people. Highly intelligent people are often depressed, but certain research has shown that they commit suicide with lower IQ. One possible explanation is that intelligent people more often find concrete and workable solutions to desperate problems. They are more introspective and can monitor and understand their own emotional reactions in a way that most people cannot. Another explanation is that smart people often have smart friends. They know how to express their feelings, and they have friends who understand what they mean. This creates safety valves which not every person has.

But, if smart people really have a higher than average resistance to depression, what is it that makes them depressed more often? What can one do about it as a manager?

Let’s start by trying to wear a smart person’s shoes. I’m not talking about real geniuses, but about people with an IQ of about 120 and up.
The average IQ level is 100. A person with an EQ of 120 is above the 95th percentile, but we all tend to use ourselves as a reference. A smart person often views himself as fully normal. For the highly intelligent, it is average people that look weird: Doesn’t like to think, has trouble with simple mathematics, cannot create logical models, does not understand elementary statistics, cannot think critically, never attains a high level of competency in any particular field, isn’t curious, has no endurance for learning new things…

To illustrate the difference: Many people photograph their food and post the pictures on Facebook. It usually looks rather disgusting. I’ve never quite understood why people do that, but I figured I’d give it a try. If I did it myself, perhaps I could gain a better understanding.

Just taking a picture was of course too boring, so in order to make things interesting I decided to challenge myself: Create a short cooking show. Record and edit everything on an iPad, just to see if it was possible. To heighten the challenge, simultaneously record both a Swedish and an English version. How did it go? Rather well for an amateur video, thank you. If you want to see a show about how to cook Paccheri with minced meat sauce, drop me a line in the comments and I will post the link.

The point is that above-average performing individuals make more of an effort, almost whatever the subject. Others often appreciate the result, but want no part of the process.

If the work that the above-average performing individual results in others having to alter their workflow, the reaction is often negative: “We’ve never had to do that before.” Often there is a return to the old way of doing things, no matter how bad the old way was.

On top of that, one is inundated with “good” advice: Don’t think so much, dumb down your resume, try to be more like other people, stop dreaming, do as you’re told (no matter how stupid that is)…

Have you seen the movie Dumb and Dumber? Imagine living in a world where 19 out of 20 people you meet are like the main characters of that film.

A world like that is no fun to live in! For many people high intelligence is a curse, a torment that means you can never fit in, cannot laugh about the same things as others, cannot agree with others, cannot sit and chit-chat with others at parties… One becomes uncomfortable and therefore one goes to the trouble to find out why, when most would just accept the status quo.

A normal brain is designed to save energy. As the frontal lobes activate, the pain center of the brain also activates. This is why many people think solving math problems is uncomfortable. This is also why many people consider talking to intelligent people to be an uncomfortable experience. It’s difficult to follow the logic, evaluate facts and see correlation.

It’s not much fun for smart people either. It’s not fun to present a logical thought process, only to see the face of the person you’re talking to distort into a painful expression. Even worse when the person you’re talking to is a friend, relative or colleague.

So, you learn. You learn to hide what you’re thinking, to always wear a poker face. Never let down your guard at work, around relatives, when you’re out among people. Only among a small subset of people, those who suffer the same affliction as yourself, can you relax.

A good friend connected me with one of his friends, who happens to be a highly skilled mathematician. My good friend doesn’t live in my home town of Gothenburg, but the mathematician does, so we went out for coffee together. It took more than eight hours. We were both so starved to have a conversation with someone, without having to adapt, without slowing down, without having to be afraid of not being understood.

And, please note, I’m not all that smart! The problem is that much worse for people with really high intelligence.

I have a friend who is a brilliant programmer. Early in his career, he was an international troubleshooter at a well-known American technology corporation, and travelled anywhere there was a difficult-to-solve problem to be found. He has a photographic memory, speaks seven languages, is nice and pleasant, and enjoys working with others. He is even a good dancer.

Unfortunately, it was difficult for him to find a job for many years. Nobody wanted to hire him. Other programmers didn’t want to work with him. As he told me the story, I was bewildered. I’ve worked with him, and pair-programmed with him. He’s one of the two best pair-programming-partners I’ve ever had the honor of working with. So, why was he ill liked? Simply because when he is part of the team, it becomes impossible for anyone else to retain any illusions of their own competence.

Not that I could either. After working a day with him, my brain was like a wrung washcloth. And the next day, and the next, and the next… and I loved it! Fantastic challenges, every day. It was one of the most educational and most developmental periods of my life. For someone with low self-esteem, on the other hand, it could have been devastating.

He never did manage to find a job in Sweden. He finally moved abroad to find employment.

I once applied for a job at a large Swedish corporation. As part of the procedure I had to take an intelligence along with many other applicants. Afterwards, two of the testers took me aside. One of them asked me:

“Do you have any idea how intelligent you are?”

“No,” I said. I had a serious cold, my head was pounding, my nose was running, and I felt anything but smart.

After some time, I found out my application was not accepted. I assumed they had been looking for smarter people than me, but about a year later I talked to a recruiter who was very familiar with both the tests and the company:

“The tests purpose is to filter out people with excessive intelligence and initiative,” he said.

They simply didn’t want to have too smart people among the employees. Too great a risk that they have ideas of their own. Note that this was a technology company.

Many years have passed since that intelligence test, but I recently ran into another “knowledge company” which rejects people with a high level of knowledge. When they hire managers they filter out applicants with knowledge of Deming’s knowledge model: An appreciation of a system, understanding of variation, psychology, and Epistemology, or a theory of knowledge.

Reject! This is akin to searching for writers but only hiring illiterates.

I do realize that it’s not a direct goal to have incompetent managers, it’s just that the people responsible for hiring do not have a knowledge model to reference the applicants against. (Oh yes, I’ve checked, there is no other knowledge model either. It really is “no knowledge model”.) When they run across phrases they are unfamiliar with, such as “An appreciation of a system”, the reaction is negative.

No wonder intelligent people are often disillusioned and depressed. You throw yourself into working life to pitch in, help people, accomplish something good, and rather brusquely find out that the only thing that counts is the ability to fit into the system.

The first few years the effects are hardly noticeable, but it’s easy to let one-self wear down over time. When you’re young you fight the battles. When you’re a bit older you learn to choose which battles are worth fighting. Eventually there comes a time where you start thinking that, even though you have exactly the same need to participate and belong as everyone else, it’s just too strenuous. You pull away. Withdraw from associations, lose touch with friends, and at work you hide in your office. You stop presenting ideas or make suggestions because you know they will only result in fruitless arguments.

The need to think and do things is still there, but the possibility of finding an outlet for the energy withers away. Yet you become more and more isolated.

A few years ago, I had an idea: I realized how to reduce the energy consumption of the average home by 10-20%. Wise from the experience of previous attempts, I did the following: “I wrote the idea down, printed it on a piece of paper, put it in an envelope, and mailed the letter to myself. When I received the letter, I put it in my book shelf, and that’s where it stays. I’m not going to do anything with it. A year or so ago I heard of a team in the states who is working on an almost identical idea. I wish them success. (Update from Henrik: After I wrote the article, an Innovation company has expressed some interest, so I am going to present the idea for them after all. I can't stay grumpy all the time.)

Nowadays choose easier ways to express my creativity. I choose things I can handle myself, or with a small group of interested friends. I avoid things that require people outside the inner circle to think, because it usually ends badly.

Does it sound cruel and egotistical? Is my view of humanity all too dark? Let me tell you about the last time I engaged myself in something important.

I was working on risk analysis and discovered that a product at a company had a design flaw: The operator could end up in a position where he must make a crucial decision first, and only afterwards get the information which would have been the basis of the decision. Unfortunately lives could depend on the decision of the operator. That is, the wrong decision could have deadly consequences. I started evaluating competing products and found that they performed in the correct order. Then, I noticed the same procedural error was in the next generation of product the company was in the process of developing.

I sounded the alarm. Which resulted in: Nothing at all! Nobody wanted to correct the problem, because that might have led to extra administrative work. Implied: They might have to recall already sold units. It could also lead to the authorities critically looking into the company. They didn’t even want to correct the problem in the next generation of products, because that would be admitting that something was wrong.

This wasn’t the only problem at the company which could cause death. You can probably guess what happened when I tried to start these discussions.

So, you live and learn!

Depression because of these kinds of events is no illness. It’s simply a normal response to the situation. Once the depression is there, it in itself of course becomes yet another reason to stay depressed. It feeds itself. Additionally, if the self-esteem is tied to the ability to perform, as it often is, there’s the perpetual worry to lose the ability to think clearly, and that the energy to get things done may never return.

What do you guys think?

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Yep. So much of this is true.
Is it weird that I was reminded of Hermione Granger from Harry Potter reading this? Because this is exactly what happened there.

Quote:A world like that is no fun to live in! For many people high intelligence is a curse, a torment that means you can never fit in, cannot laugh about the same things as others, cannot agree with others, cannot sit and chit-chat with others at parties… One becomes uncomfortable and therefore one goes to the trouble to find out why, when most would just accept the status quo.

I guess my sense of independence and selfishness helped me there; I realised early on that there will always be more people to choose from. So, this guy isn't fun to talk to? Move on to the next one. Eventually, I'd find someone- never mind that they'd probably be 5 or so years my senior; I was just happy I had someone fun to talk to. And then there's my sister; she's probably just as intelligent as I am. That probably helped a lot.

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Interesting. I don't disagree. But on a forum intended to attract depressed people, we should be skeptical of widespread agreement that depression is correlated with intelligence.
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Widespread here or elsewhere? Because I don't think it's even all that widespread actually. I can't even find the studies that support this... but I will. Eventually. Razz

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RE: Intelligent people are more likely to be depressed

This so much all the time. I thought it would be different in college, it wasn't.

Hello, traveler.

This is an ancient account I have not used in a long time. My views have changed much in the intervening months and years.

Nonetheless, I refuse to clean it up. Pretending that I've held my current views since the beginning of time is what we in the industry call a lie. Asking people to do so contributes to moralistic self-loathing. "See, those people have nothing damning! I do! I'm truly vile!"

Because you can never be a good person with a single blemish on the moral record, I thought that simply entertaining some thoughts made me irredeemable. Though I don't care for his writing style, William Faulkner presents a good counterexample. He went from being a typical Southern racist to supporting the civil rights movement. These days we'd yell at him for that, probably.

People are allowed to change their views.

Nevertheless, this period of my life has informed some of how I am today. In good ways and bad ways. To purge it would be to do a disservice to history. Perhaps it will not make anyone sympathetic, but it may help someone understand.

If, after reading all this, you still decide to use the post above as evidence that I am evil today, ask yourself if you have never disagreed with the moral code you now follow. In all likelihood you did, at some point. If some questions are verboten, and the answer is "how dare you ask that," don't expect your ideological opponents to ever change their minds.
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It depends on how one defines depression. Anhedonia differs from teenagers whinging and whining on a forum.
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Quote:The point is that above-average performing individuals make more of an effort, almost whatever the subject.

Not if they're depressed. And that wouldn't make sense if he's saying that a lot of above-average performing individuals are depressed.

What do I know though?
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Pfft. It only looks like us above-average performers make an effort. In reality, our above-average performance is when we piss in the wind. You should see us when we actually "make more of an effort".

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The society was never meant to be intelligent, it is simply not built for it.

If you're intelligent, you most likely have hard times going to school or work. You then get sent to a psychologist to figure out your problems, even though you know the problem. The problem is that you are trying to adapt to a society which was simply not made for you. What are you suppose to do then? No one can do anything with your problem, and you are stuck with your thoughts because that's the only place you can find peace. This often, or at least for me, leads to depressions. It may not be a serious depression, but I can admit that I have troubles laughing and doing stuff I don't like anymore. The society only aims to satisfy average people, because those who defined society and developed it was average, because most people are average.

I could probably have wrote a hundred pages on this, but this is at least my main point.

  • "I know that I am intelligent, because I know that I know nothing." - Socrates
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The funny thing is is that most people seem to think that they have above-average intelligence.
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I have to ask why people seem to dislike smart people.
I guess smart people are like outcasts, I got hate for my intelligence.
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Or maybe you got hate for other reasons. Just saying.
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No, they called me a smart ass.
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Being called a smart ass doesn't necessarily mean that you're smart.
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I know that. It was a debate, but they didn't want to admit they were wrong, so they got angry and gave up, calling me a smart ass and a know it all. I remember reading somewhere that a boy was bullied up to the point of suicide for being intelligent, so his bullies were most likely jealous
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Cianna200 Wrote:I know that. It was a debate, but they didn't want to admit they were wrong, so they got angry and gave up, calling me a smart ass and a know it all.

And?

Cianna200 Wrote:I remember reading somewhere that a boy was bullied up to the point of suicide for being intelligent, so his bullies were most likely jealous

How do you know he was bullied for being intelligent, though?
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Actually there's been quite some development over time with the growing group known as the "mass intelligentsia" thanks to modern technology. People are more able to access variety of information that once was reserved to exclusive groups of people. I could obtain first-hand straight-from-the-source data on everything from finance to industry to design to engineering without having to a)be in that field or b)pay a shitload of money to get it. Journal subscriptions are significantly more affordable and less restricted(except journal databases are still quite expensive, like JSTOR, but as a college student you might already have access to it through the college).

There was also once a time where the whole "nerd" culture of computers was intensely riducled. Now knowing basic computer trouble-shooting makes you the cool go-to-guy for tech repair(cha-ching). There may still be some lingering remnants of the discrimination, but Star Wars has been proven to be awesome, Battlestar Galactica was cool, and based on Avatar's earnings...sci-fi isn't some nerd culture shit(though it does take an affecinado to appreciate the crappier stuff released. Course that also applies to movie buffs who can stand wathcing b-movies and classics).

Nowadays discrimination against intelligence is mostly envy. The best method to defeat it is to proudly gloat about because fuck em.

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Recently I read an article which indicated that depression may in fact be an adaptation which brings evolutionary benefits. According to the article, people who are depressed are better at solving social problems because it forces them to analytically break the problem down. Does this sound like heresy? Perhaps, but this is supported by the fact that 5HT1A, a molecule associated with depression, helps to prevent neurons from misfiring when the brain is concentrating.

There has long thought to have been a correlation between intelligence and depression. Perhaps depression remains so prominent in prevalence above most other illnesses because it provides members of our species with a higher chance of surviving, at least long enough to reproduce?

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(10-22-2015 10:53 AM)Dead Wrote:  The funny thing is is that most people seem to think that they have above-average intelligence.

I don't know if you are targeting the community or what, but I think you need to define what you mean with "above-average" intelligence. Being intelligent doesn't necessarily mean that you have a lot of knowledge or that you are superior to others, but simply the fact that you think and you try to understand. This is of course a natural thing to do, some more than others, some less. I can't speak for the whole community, but I think most people are here because they thought about their situation and understood that something was wrong. Of course everyone hates school, only very few people actually enjoy school, but they get through it.

The "intellectual" people in this situation are the people who thought, "why do I hate school?". They were able to ask them self a question, and think it through and understand their situation. Unfortunately, this doesn't serve them in their current situation because it's bad enough from before.. so they come here, share their opinions and meet people with the same problems who were also able to give their situation a thought.

Intelligence comes in many forms though, but I believe that it has less connection with knowledge than often believed. Personally I think that intelligence is the ability to think and understand, in order to perform and build knowledge.

Also a famous quote which I think can be related to by many people on this forum,
“Happiness in intelligent people is the rarest thing I know.” - Ernest Hemingway

  • "I know that I am intelligent, because I know that I know nothing." - Socrates
  • "My thoughts were so loud I couldn't hear my mouth." - Unknown
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RE: Intelligent people are more likely to be depressed

...All I was trying to say is that the majority of people think that they're more intelligent than the majority of people, in whatever way you want to define intelligence. Wasn't even "targeting" this community.
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Intelligent people are more likely to be depressed

i have quite a few things i could say... but its 5 AM....

im gonna say a few of them...

first thanks to sr for posting this - i showed this link to a very smart guy named matt who has been emailing me for years - he is in uni now.

i definitely agree smarter pple are more likely to be depressed. i dont need a study to tell me this cuz i have my own 15 plus years of experience talking to depressed ppl.

i wanna point out that i do believe there is something we can call emotionally intelligence. and the high ei pple are probably even more susecptible to depression when not in emotionally supportive environments - ie most environments.

and i wanna say that i totally agree with cianna - like usual haha - and i suspect she didn't feel very understood by dead. i felt sad to see how dead was debating with her. and id say cianna is both intellectually smart and emotionally smart and i pretty much love her and i dont mind saying it. haha - and i love night too just in case she reads this or anyone else wants to tell her and i love priscilla too which i hope is obvious. haha - priscilla is cheese lover. and soulriser... well the word love isn't really big enough to describe how i feel about her! she's just really special in the internet world and in my life. im so thankful she exists and created this site and keeps sending me her updates in our chat that we keep open. she showed me this link in it in fact. and while im writing i want to say i met someone in real life that i met thru this site called inter pals. it is a language exchange - and its just wow. everyone in the world pretty much wants to practice english so if ur a native speaker u will be popular. i found it when i was depressed as hell lately and i started sending lots of pple messages and wrote on my profile i get depressed and help depressed teens and cuz was honest i met someone who i will call c.

we met on thursday last week online. skype voice chatted about 2 hours and then met in person on sat the 26 and spend like 30 hours together on the beach here in brazil. pretty wild haha. im kind of in love for now at least. - tho i feel bad saying that cuz im afraid p might read it. and i laugh now cuz im just totally destroying the purpose of this thread so sorry sr or anyone else. thanks for being so tolerant and accepting of me sr and others here.

here is my page on understanding btw. id really like it if dead and others read it and became better at listening and showing understanding, empathy, validation etc...

http://eqi.org/und1.htm

so this kind of takes me back to intelligence and depression.

it makes sense to me that intelligent pple have a need to understand and also be understood - the smarter u are the fewer pple u can find to relate to. the less connection, the more depression due to unmet emotional needs or unmet psychological needs.

I was so depressed recently but after meeting c i dont feel depressed hardly at all. so its not a fucking disease or disorder. depressed pple are not getting enough hugs, understanding, acceptance, appreciation, admiration, support in general -

i have spent about 5 months in brazil now. this is one of the most emotionally supportive places ive ever been too. so if ur depressed, come to brazil. be honest and connect with other pple who can understand depression. not everyone is happy here but lots of pple are and its nice to be around them sometimes. other times its not tho if im too depressed myself. that is when i really need to talk to someone who either understands depression or is just a basically just good listener - but i think there is really nothing better than a good listener, smart person, sensitive and caring, who u are attracted to and who is attracted to u. that is pretty much what i experienced when i met c. smart pple have a chance at least of using their brains to figure out what they need. i helped priscilla do that. i feel good that i did that - she was a good learner and now for the rest of her life she will pay a lot of attention to her emotional needs. it would help if schools would teach us about our emotional and psychological needs, but we all know they dont and that they are emotionally toxic places.

and i have to say again since there are so many american born pple here that the usa is one fucking emotionally toxic culture. and please get out as soon as u can.

thanks for reading.

your friendly depression expert.

im looking at this article again - the author makes some really good points. too many for me to comment on now. this article merits a really close review and thorough discussion. thanks again to sr for posting it... and hug to sr.
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a comment on this idea that we make more of an effort.. i agree with both the author and dead in a way cuz if i am depressed i dont have energy to do regular things with more of an effort. but, if i am depressed i might make more of an "effort" at figuring out why the fuck i am so depressed. and i have figured it out now. it is very clear to me. and becomes clearer all the time.

while depressed we are saving energy by not doing other things so we can use that energy to think, process, come up with new ideas for how to survive.

i pretty much always have some new ideas after i have been really depressed. but - i have time to be depressed as long as i need to. i have time and *freedom* to be depressed. i can sleep all day if i want and need to. i can find a quiet place. i can get away from pple who abuse me.

teens don't have these freedoms. and it pisses me off they dont.

I think the author said society isnt designed for smart pple. i totally agree. it sure isnt designed for smart and sensitive pple. so we need to find each other and support each other.

and send and give lots of hugs. so i send hugs to anyone who needs them.
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Maybe my answer will be just short and simple but I think that this kind of people see more, they think a lot of various things and that is the reason why they are more susceptible on depression...
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(02-04-2017 01:16 AM)john.cipolletta Wrote:  Maybe my answer will be just short and simple but I think that this kind of people see more, they think a lot of various things and that is the reason why they are more susceptible on depression...

Yep.

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oh and also No one has any rights. We're free, rights create invisible restrictions. But we live in a society where the majority accepts rights to be true.
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This thread reeks of so called "pseudo intellectuals" who think that by posting gigantic walls of texts (no shots taken to xcriteria, btw) and using big words and having a vague understanding of "fancy" subjects such as psychology or sociology that somehow they're smarter than everyone else in the world.

News flash: you're not. Just because you post a "deep philosophical thread" on a forum doesn't mean you're a genius. Not that this is a bad thing to do, but to parade yourself as a messiah is ridiculous. I know this because I used to be exactly like this, especially in high school.

I'm not even sure how true the statement is. It sounds incredibly vague, not to mention it uses IQ as a starting point, which is very messy.

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Wow! So many smart answers with logical argumentation. But as Joyce Meuer said that many sophisticated, intelligent people lack wisdom and common sense.
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[Posting valuable constructive information, to see if it stimulates an immanent thread slide (the intra-thread variant of the more well-known forum slide) to the next thread page. If it does, then I'll re-post the information later on that page.]

The NMDA receptors that create the sensation of depression can be blocked by over-the-counter soluble forms of magnesium. Avoid the consumption of SSRIs, and especially high-dose SSRIs, which cause permanent sexual anhedonia, called PSSD.
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having seen that video of stevehein and hearing his voice and watching his manner, I feel like he's a really cool genuine kinda guy I want to hang out with.

I thanked him for his walls of text because I get it. you can't always be concise. he doesnt dumb it down either, but what stevehein does is really neat, like a good filmmaker or writer. he gives it to you in the form of a wandering story which goes on brief tangents related to the main theme and develops a really solid philosophical point without coming off as philosophical as im sure my writing usually sounds.

also corrolary vs. causalary. depression cannot be dealt with out of its context. what goes on and has gone on in a persons life is crucial, even if some acontextual material corrolation is discovered

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(05-25-2017 12:58 AM)LauraP. Wrote:  Wow! So many smart answers with logical argumentation. But as Joyce Meuer said that many sophisticated, intelligent people lack wisdom and common sense.

Intelligence isn't an automatic sign of wisdom or common sense, but an intelligent person is more likely to get there through less trial and error in life, basically.

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wow, glad I missed LauraP's "comment".

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