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"Illegal Immigration"
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"Illegal Immigration"

Why does the vast majority from all backgrounds complain about "illegal immigration"? What's so bad about it? Just because some criminals are "illegal immigrants", that doesn't mean all of them are, and the same thing can be said for citizens, natural-born, naturalised or otherwise. You don't get to choose the place you were born in, so you have the right to live wherever you want.

I never understood what's the big deal with "illegal immigration". Personally, I favor something radical, the legalisation of all illegal immigration around the world. Illegal immigrants are just like you, and everyone and their family, no matter where they originate from, has been an immigrant at one time or another(unless you're an indigenous person, and even there, all human beings are descended from a group in Africa).

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"Illegal Immigration"

The concept of illegal immigration technically serves more as a manner of economic flow-control to prevent an overburden of a nation's infrastucture and economy by an uncontrolled and massive influx of new-comers who may not have the means to sustain themselves in a new country, either due to lack of sufficient wealth, education, or even language.

What benefit would "all immigration is legal" if a massive influx of people into a region causes drastic decline of the quality of life, degradation of infrastructure, and an overload of most public services? There's no guarantee they'll get jobs, and there's no guarantee they'll have much money on themselves if they come from a poor country and are themselves poor. Thus they'll need to be provided for, and won't provide back.

I'd oppose illegal immigrants receiving anything beyond short-term assistance and welfare, and I'd rather they not benefit from public services paid FOR and intended FOR the legal immigrants and citizens. Of course this would mean that any "illegal" paying taxes would then no longer be considered "illegal" as they'll be contributing back to the society, in which case they should be given a new status(between illegal and legal...like "registered laborer/worker/immigrant" or something).

This way it'd differentiate between illegals who don't provide back to the society(often being criminal elements or those seeking to take advantage of the US) and those who do(there already exists a system for that but it's pretty awful. Basically it says that any illegal who works for 10 years in the US without committing any felonies or whatever can apply for legal status. However, in the meantime they remain illegal). Those considered "registered" are basically those who show that they intend to set down long-term roots.

Plus this way could also force companies to legally hire these registered workers, who will be paying taxes and such. Otherwise they'd themselves undermine the entire system.

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RE: "Illegal Immigration"

Yeeeah, at least when applied to the US immigration problem crime isn't actually the issue here, although some try to pitch it that way as Trump did with his infamous "they're rapists" statement. Most illegal immigrants try to keep a lower profile, since being busted for any infraction would inevitably mean deportation. It strikes me as an argument rooted in scare mongering. I completely agree with the argument of preventing illegal immigration for the sake of ensuring that our society doesn't become overburdened. No need to push slanderous rhetoric. Honestly I'm surprised illegal immigration has come up as such a big issue so far during this presidential campaign, considering that illegal immigrants entering the country has reached its lowest level in 20 years and we now get rid of more illegal Mexican immigrants than we have entering the country. I've heard from a little birdy that this is due to a combination of increased economic opportunity in Mexico (free college bitches!) and our recently enhanced border security.

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RE: "Illegal Immigration"

Its not actually Mexico thats the problem. Lots of central American countries are now source of immigrants and thats because they are shitholes practically run by gangs and cartels.

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"Illegal Immigration"

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"Illegal Immigration"

In normalspeak it's just called 'moving' anyway.
'Immigration' is just a term to make it sound like a different concept so the policy preventing people from merely moving isn't regarded as so bizarre and backwards.
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RE: "Illegal Immigration"

(11-04-2015 02:54 PM)BradM Wrote:  In normalspeak it's just called 'moving' anyway.
'Immigration' is just a term to make it sound like a different concept so the policy preventing people from merely moving isn't regarded as so bizarre and backwards.

I very much agree with you, mate. As long as people do not harm others', they should be allowed to move anywhere they want.

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http://dwardmac.pitzer.edu/Anarchist_Archives/
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The Right to Be Lazy, Paul Lafargue(An early marxist).
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RE: "Illegal Immigration"

Yeah I don't understand why people fuss over illegal immigration either.
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"Illegal Immigration"

People bitch about immigration because they don't want to address the root causes of issues.
They see that a shit ton of people are coming in from other countries and fucking up the economy of their country and get angry about it, they don't want to solve the problems that cause people to want to illegally immigrate.

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RE: "Illegal Immigration"

Yes. We must destroy America. We must vanquish the economy. We must gut all welfare. Then theyll never want to immigrate here.

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RE: "Illegal Immigration"

(11-08-2015 09:04 AM)Alistoriv Wrote:  People bitch about immigration because they don't want to address the root causes of issues.
They see that a shit ton of people are coming in from other countries and fucking up the economy of their country and get angry about it, they don't want to solve the problems that cause people to want to illegally immigrate.

Look at what causes most of illegal immigration anyways, like supporting the war on drugs or some stupid shit like that, when it wastes a lot of money. The U.S./U.K shouldn't have to support some awful terror groups in the Middle East and in certain places in Latin America.

http://telekommunisten.net/the-telekommunist-manifesto/
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http://dwardmac.pitzer.edu/Anarchist_Archives/
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RE: "Illegal Immigration"

Not sure ending the war on drugs would eliminate most of the gang problems in Central America. Id rather we just droned the crap out of the cartels south of our border all the way down to Panama. Hard to be a gang when you got a missile coming down on ya anytime you step out.

I mean we've popped off quite a bit of Al-Qaeda HQ. Cartels are out in the open. We can surprise em and easily blast em to hell remotely from an office in Texas. If we kill enough we can decrease gang activity and piss the citizens off enough to avoid migrating in the first place!

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