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Contagious Pessimism

Ego is the opposite of love, hate, neglect and apathy are all a part of ego, hate is the absence of love.
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You can love to hate.

Ego is just the self. To have an ego is to be conscious. The idea is that having an ego beyond what you actually are, thus fictionalizing reality, is what causes problems. Not having an ego is just as bad.

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RE: Contagious Pessimism

Ego and love are both conscious. Ego is the self or better put, selfishness about seeing how the world operates for you (Remember the words Egocentric, Egotism, and Egotistical, all imply selfishness)

Love is the absence of self, selfless side of it, however both cannot be explained fully, it's impossible for anyone to give a whole answer.
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Of course ego imply selfishness. The word Ego means I, I being the self. Thus ego is the self.

There is no opposite to ego. Without ego, there is nothing. You still need a self to act selfless. The ego is what loves or hates.

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RE: Contagious Pessimism

Ego can't love, it is self. Love is the complete opposite of ego, love is not self, it just is and is based on others. By saying there is no opposite for ego after agreeing it is selfishness, you are implying selflessness is nonexistent.
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Damn it where are my manners, this is so off topic.
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Ego is a conscious awareness. Love is an emotional sensation created by neurochemicals(hormones).

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RE: Contagious Pessimism

Why do you believe love is from hormones? Have you looked to see if science is right or is it just a hypothesis? What you are describing sounds a lot more like sexual feelings.
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No. The human is nothing more than an organic machine made up of electrical neurons, chemical hormones, and various other biological mechanisms that ensure function.

The ego is a man-made concept meant to define the conscious understanding of existing as an individual self-aware being. All emotions are caused by chemicals responses to various stimuli, and in many cases determined by the individual temperament of the processing unit(aka brain). Thought it nothing more than complex analyzation of data gathered by our various senses translated into electrical impulses transmitted to the brain.

Genetics(instinct) and Experience(learned knowledge) combine to form the basis of our fundamental behaviors.

While love can be an abstract idea, it is primarily felt as a chemical response. Lust and Love are the same things with the only difference being how they're comprehended. I don't believe in that nonsense that love is some mystical thing stemming from the soul or whatever.

I might be religious, that doesn't mean I wouldn't think my body is nothing more than an exquisitely designed biological machine.

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Where is your evidence for all this? What you are describing sounds like mostly what scientists think but science cannot fully explain everything. Love and lust are two different things, lust is a desire for the body, love is not.
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Guys. Seriously. This is Ferigeras' ES&V thread. Break it up.

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I'm sorry that is what I meant to do but sometimes I just can't resist debates, I promise I will stop.
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(08-15-2015 10:30 AM)DoA Wrote:  Guys. Seriously. This is Ferigeras' ES&V thread. Break it up.

Just split it mang. I'm too lazy to do it.

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You can continue now.

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You couldn't have renamed it?

Quote:Where is your evidence for all this? What you are describing sounds like mostly what scientists think but science cannot fully explain everything. Love and lust are two different things, lust is a desire for the body, love is not.

My evidence has more evidence. Durr.

So what do you love in a person? Nothing more than what is manifested by their ego, a la brain. Lust simply refers to a sexual interest with the primary concern being in the genitals whereas love is lust+long-term interest. Something of a companionship coupled with lust.

Lust can be without love, but love can not be without lust. Lust is the catalyst.

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(08-15-2015 11:21 AM)brainiac3397 Wrote:  Lust can be without love, but love can not be without lust.

Families are imaginary! WAKE UP SHEEPLE!

Hello, traveler.

This is an ancient account I have not used in a long time. My views have changed much in the intervening months and years.

Nonetheless, I refuse to clean it up. Pretending that I've held my current views since the beginning of time is what we in the industry call a lie. Asking people to do so contributes to moralistic self-loathing. "See, those people have nothing damning! I do! I'm truly vile!"

Because you can never be a good person with a single blemish on the moral record, I thought that simply entertaining some thoughts made me irredeemable. Though I don't care for his writing style, William Faulkner presents a good counterexample. He went from being a typical Southern racist to supporting the civil rights movement. These days we'd yell at him for that, probably.

People are allowed to change their views.

Nevertheless, this period of my life has informed some of how I am today. In good ways and bad ways. To purge it would be to do a disservice to history. Perhaps it will not make anyone sympathetic, but it may help someone understand.

If, after reading all this, you still decide to use the post above as evidence that I am evil today, ask yourself if you have never disagreed with the moral code you now follow. In all likelihood you did, at some point. If some questions are verboten, and the answer is "how dare you ask that," don't expect your ideological opponents to ever change their minds.
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(08-15-2015 11:32 AM)no Wrote:  
(08-15-2015 11:21 AM)brainiac3397 Wrote:  Lust can be without love, but love can not be without lust.

Families are imaginary! WAKE UP SHEEPLE!

Incest ftw.

Actually love can be without lust. Course then it depends on what kind of love. It's all wordy. Whatever.

Long live the machinekind. I await their superior reign.(more likely just to have a valid reason to revolt and shoot em up with all that messy blood and nasty smell)

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You are forgetting that some people cannot feel lust for others (asexuals) Love can exist without lust, you must argue that love for a friend, one's child, and pet has lust involved. Love is from the heart, I love a person for them, there is no seeking to possess the body. Lust is a craving to satisfy yourself, so it can't be love at all, (unless you are confusing lust for sexual celebration) love is based on seeking another's well being and happiness, however lust can become love, after it dies.
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No, I didn't have the option to rename it - can't edit the content other people's posts in most subforums, see.

Also, can confirm - am asexual.

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So you are asexual huh?
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Indeed. Heteroromantic, though.

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I thought I was the only one, I fall on the grey asexual scale.
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Im straight romantic sexual. Kinda like normal...but a little more extra. Probably.

What is this heteromantic?

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Not heteromantic, lol - hetero-romantic. I'm attracted to those of the opposite gender in a purely romantic sense; despite this, however, I am asexual.

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What silly language. I refuse to say ro-ro. So redundant.

What is romantic defined as? Im attracted to opposite sex romantically too but romance also includes a variety of physical activities (not just dat baby making.)

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I define romance as first being a warm fantasy trip , than later becoming a possessive matter, or sometimes a gold faced reality based on seeing another human and not an object. Asexual DOES NOT mean no physical (sexual) activity will be involved, that's a common misconception, asexual just means the lack of sexual attraction towards people.
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If you're not sexually attracted, how do you have sexual activity? Is it like a chore? Something to just get over with?

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Depends on the person. Some just, well, don't.

Others do it to make their partners happy. Still others just want kids...

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Yeah what Doa said, sexual attraction is not the only reason people have sex, some asexuals have sex cause sex is pleasurable for them too.
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Cianna200 Wrote:Yeah what Doa said, sexual attraction is not the only reason people have sex, some asexuals have sex cause sex is pleasurable for them too.

Okay, I kind of thought that all these labels were kind of weird, but you've completely lost me here.
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