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Faby
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this place has gotten better
since the blatant vitriol and 4channery has died out. it's still got its old feel but without all the rampant edge.
Let go of all desire for the common good, and the good becomes common as grass.
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Disaster lurks within good fortune;
Who can say how things will end?
Perhaps there is no end.
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brainiac3397
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this place has gotten better
Don't know what you're tawking about
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this place has gotten better
Yeah, I like it much better now. 
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brainiac3397
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Thanks for the compliments guyz. Much appreciated.
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schoolsux
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ur welcome
schoolsux's countdown until school ends:
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this place has gotten better
It's better, for sure... but it can be even better. I'd really like to see (and help bring about) a more active focus on supporting people changing their situations, learning life-relevant things, and learning about the range of ways people are learning beyond school.
I've been working on connecting with more people who "get it" and care about the situations of those stuck in school for quite a while, and as time goes on I'm connecting with more and more people across ages and roles who can relate and even want to help. Many don't join SS, but maybe that could change. A lot of the more active conversation I've found happens on FB, where I invite people to get involved, if only in the education-related groups.
We can also explore other platforms for those who prefer them.
One thing we could start up is regular video/voice calls if anyone would be interested in that; I can invite others who aren't on SS to join in as well.
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RE: this place has gotten better
(08-20-2015 07:12 PM)Weswammy Wrote: I'm confused.
Yes, I am.
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RE: this place has gotten better
I liked it better when it was angrier, edgier, and more radical.
If you want to be a different fish, you've got to jump out of the school.
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RE: this place has gotten better
(08-21-2015 08:32 AM)TheCancer Wrote: I liked it better when it was angrier, edgier, and more radical.
It's still mondo gnarly, broski.
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(08-21-2015 08:32 AM)TheCancer Wrote: I liked it better when it was angrier, edgier, and more radical.
banned
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RE: this place has gotten better
He was one swood guy.
Hello, traveler.
This is an ancient account I have not used in a long time. My views have changed much in the intervening months and years.
Nonetheless, I refuse to clean it up. Pretending that I've held my current views since the beginning of time is what we in the industry call a lie. Asking people to do so contributes to moralistic self-loathing. "See, those people have nothing damning! I do! I'm truly vile!"
Because you can never be a good person with a single blemish on the moral record, I thought that simply entertaining some thoughts made me irredeemable. Though I don't care for his writing style, William Faulkner presents a good counterexample. He went from being a typical Southern racist to supporting the civil rights movement. These days we'd yell at him for that, probably.
People are allowed to change their views.
Nevertheless, this period of my life has informed some of how I am today. In good ways and bad ways. To purge it would be to do a disservice to history. Perhaps it will not make anyone sympathetic, but it may help someone understand.
If, after reading all this, you still decide to use the post above as evidence that I am evil today, ask yourself if you have never disagreed with the moral code you now follow. In all likelihood you did, at some point. If some questions are verboten, and the answer is "how dare you ask that," don't expect your ideological opponents to ever change their minds.
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RE: this place has gotten better
Not even edgy
3/10
i don't even see any arguments
discussion forum? more like agreement forum, amirite?
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Yes, I agree completely. 
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schoolsux
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Most of the time it's an agreement forum.
schoolsux's countdown until school ends:
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I agree with your post. Here, have a thanks.
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this place has gotten better
I concur wholeheartedly.
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Well thank you, Dead.
schoolsux's countdown until school ends:
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brainiac3397
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I disagree with this entire thread. I'm reporting all your posts!
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I agree with you too, Brainy.
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RE: this place has gotten better
NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
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An' that's how we handle 'r boss battles 'round here.
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RE: this place has gotten better
They said he was the boss, so I killed him. But then they fired me. I don't understand this game.
Hello, traveler.
This is an ancient account I have not used in a long time. My views have changed much in the intervening months and years.
Nonetheless, I refuse to clean it up. Pretending that I've held my current views since the beginning of time is what we in the industry call a lie. Asking people to do so contributes to moralistic self-loathing. "See, those people have nothing damning! I do! I'm truly vile!"
Because you can never be a good person with a single blemish on the moral record, I thought that simply entertaining some thoughts made me irredeemable. Though I don't care for his writing style, William Faulkner presents a good counterexample. He went from being a typical Southern racist to supporting the civil rights movement. These days we'd yell at him for that, probably.
People are allowed to change their views.
Nevertheless, this period of my life has informed some of how I am today. In good ways and bad ways. To purge it would be to do a disservice to history. Perhaps it will not make anyone sympathetic, but it may help someone understand.
If, after reading all this, you still decide to use the post above as evidence that I am evil today, ask yourself if you have never disagreed with the moral code you now follow. In all likelihood you did, at some point. If some questions are verboten, and the answer is "how dare you ask that," don't expect your ideological opponents to ever change their minds.
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(08-28-2015 08:46 AM)no Wrote: They said he was the boss, so I killed him. But then they fired me. I don't understand this game.
PvP is so unbalanced
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This may sound a little petty, but I wish you didn't have to start a new game to use a different class.
Hello, traveler.
This is an ancient account I have not used in a long time. My views have changed much in the intervening months and years.
Nonetheless, I refuse to clean it up. Pretending that I've held my current views since the beginning of time is what we in the industry call a lie. Asking people to do so contributes to moralistic self-loathing. "See, those people have nothing damning! I do! I'm truly vile!"
Because you can never be a good person with a single blemish on the moral record, I thought that simply entertaining some thoughts made me irredeemable. Though I don't care for his writing style, William Faulkner presents a good counterexample. He went from being a typical Southern racist to supporting the civil rights movement. These days we'd yell at him for that, probably.
People are allowed to change their views.
Nevertheless, this period of my life has informed some of how I am today. In good ways and bad ways. To purge it would be to do a disservice to history. Perhaps it will not make anyone sympathetic, but it may help someone understand.
If, after reading all this, you still decide to use the post above as evidence that I am evil today, ask yourself if you have never disagreed with the moral code you now follow. In all likelihood you did, at some point. If some questions are verboten, and the answer is "how dare you ask that," don't expect your ideological opponents to ever change their minds.
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I killed the boss and got 6 stars. I had to use cheats.
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this place has gotten better
Of course you did.
schoolsux's countdown until school ends:
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1280 days until I get out of prison (aka school)
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RE: this place has gotten better
Srsly. I had to fight 2 brutes and call homies to assist.
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