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venting about my non-future
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Hello! Yeah, I just finished school month ago or so and I feel free I guess. I took two exams and in one of them I had a better grade than I normally had in normal classes, I made it! That's the exam that I had to submit in my candidature for university... For a course named 'New technologies of communication' . I'm hoping to enter at that one which is better than going to work or doing a simple technical course. Therefore, I feel like I'm doing nothing productive all my summer holiday... Except watching some movies and anime or playing videogames sometimes... Or a bit of drawing. I became to have aversion to going out even though I go with my friend against my will...
And that's my exciting life, welcome.
Ok. Since I'm hoping I will be accepted at that course, and it's pretty much about programming and design and all that stuff. Is there any advice on this field? I'm thinking on working as freelancer after finishing the course. It's not the easy way for me but I'd rather work alone than being stuck in a office or in a office and talking with a person which is worse lol
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Venting about my future and how I finished school (fortunately)
How much do you enjoy negotiating with people? Because in my experience, there's a lot of that involved in freelancing... and that's why I quit doing it. People can't make up their damn minds what they want and many of them are a nightmare to work with... I personally would only freelance if someone else handled all the BS of talking to the client and dealing with their shit... lol
But yeah, if you're going to do it, definitely have a very solid contract with rules that you enforce about how much the client is allowed to change their mind about stuff, and how much they have to pay you every time they want you to change something.
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RE: Venting about my future and how I finished school (fortunately)
I have heard things about working as freelancer before and one of them is about the last thing you said, about changing the work the way the client want everytime is not content or for updates...?
I'm not very confident about going into that field to be honest .
When you say that 'dealing with their bs' seems like you already had 'certain ' situations...
Well I'm mostly chill and patient. Then, being good at what you do is not enough? I would say that I'm not sure how I would handle those situations
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Yeah, I got a few indecisive clients. And I had no contract whatsoever, and no experience of dealing with people... so they could pretty much just do whatever they want, and I didn't know how to say no.
In the last case, I had already finished coding all the functionality of the site, everything worked, and I was kinda expecting them to launch the site any day now, but he kept asking me to change one tiny little thing of the design at a time. Then he changed the logo all by himself, and asked me to fix it because he made it not align properly with some other thing. That was the last straw, I just quit and never even asked for my payment.
If I had a contract that stated that he would have to pay me for each individual change request, none of that would have happened (or it would, but I would have actually gotten some money out of it).
Always have a contract... Even when doing stuff for friends, or friends of friends... (that difficult one was actually a friend of a friend)...
Or at least be good at saying 'no' and telling people when they're being full of shit... that might work too.
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RE: Venting about my future and how I finished school (fortunately)
I really was expecting these kind of situations. But what you've said made me think more about it...
I'll realize later if I will be able to deal with that kind of profession or in the other hand follow something different after college...
I really was expecting these kind of situations. But what you've said made me think more about it...
I'll realize later if I will be able to deal with that kind of profession or in the other hand follow something different after college...
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Maybe you could start with something like Fiverr.com and just let people request one thing at a time for $5 (or more). 
Or split it up and have people pay seperately for coding, design, logo, etc.
If I actually liked making stuff for other people, I could have tried harder to get a system that worked for me. I prefer working on my own projects though, so I'm kinda biased I guess.
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RE: Venting about my future and how I finished school (fortunately)
Yes that might be a better idea, I appreciate your advice 
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RE: Venting about my future and how I finished school (fortunately)
I actually need some logo work done...course my standards are quite strict(while conviniently avoiding paying top dollar for graphic design cuz fuck it). I keep getting coupon from vistaprint on design. Supposedly they do a thing where you outline what you want, and a certain number of artists provide prototypes you can choose from (more you pay, more artists y prototypes).
Some setup like that might not be bad either.
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. But since, I have a friend who wants to be an Indie game developer and since I started taking a small programming class, I can sort of understand your situation though the fields are quite different. Though this may not help out much, just don't let frustration judge your future decisions since I've seen and heard how frustrating programming can be. FIGHT ON!
