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Noam Chomsky talking about education
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Noam Chomsky talking about education

He says the educated part of the population is the most deluded. (I am sure he means educated by the government not self educated)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLXWvUwoDnc
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Noam Chomsky talking about education

I love noam chomsky, he pretty much destroyed my entire belief about schooling, government, capitalism, and that's how pretty much I am an anarchist now at this point.

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RE: Noam Chomsky talking about education

Yeah Noam is cool, gonna suck when he croaks.
I actually talked to him via email before.

Based on what I've seen from him about education in the past, I'm pretty sure you're on the money about what he means. Didn't watch this video (not sure if I have in the past or not), but when you get into Ivy League tier schools, they have all kinds of little manorisms and nit-picky rituals and stuff they have. They make you apart of an environment in which you feel like you're the next generation of "leader" and you have to steer the world for everyone else. Like the "lesser" people. And you're the special "educated elite" or whatever, and you have a responsibility to run things the *correct* way.

He has a whole documentary and book and stuff out about "The Bounds of Thinkable Thought", which is pretty highly regarded. He talks about how news outlets and publishers and such tend to stay away from certain types of analysis and conversation. Like, you just don't talk about certain things in the U.S or it's condemned by the system. It's not forced like the USSR, they don't kill you over it, but it's kind of like career suicide. The way it works isn't force, it works through delusion and bringing people into a "system" where they feel privileged and important and shit.

Reminds me of Snowden and how he portrays the NSA's culture. I can't find the video, but basically he describes the culture as like this, "We have to protect people from themselves" and like, people want to feel special and like they're important. Above the law even. They send a memo around the NSA office, it's an automated memo, but it feels personalized, and it's like, "you're saving lives, don't leak or we'll know, we'll find you, you'll be evil" all this shit. I'm paraphrasing and not sure how accurate I'm being because I can't find the source, but that's what I remember.

Except it's less subtle with upper level education and stuff, as Chomsky explains.

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Noam Chomsky talking about education

Chomsky might be one of the small number of people I actually don't dislike despite holding differing beliefs.

Regardless of ideology, I find sufficient logic in many of his arguments.

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RE: Noam Chomsky talking about education

Politics and big problems like this are difficult. Chomsky is big on empiricism, which I respect, but sometimes you just can't be sure because there's a lack of data and you have to basically go on correlations and probability. Like sometimes it's intuitive. Models for human behavior on a mass scale and like causality for big events is very hard. Let alone just getting data.

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