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So if anybody does't know whats going on. Freddie Gray got his neck broken after he got arrested, (I'm not exactly sure how his neck got broken though). And in response, various neighborhoods in Baltimore have gone up in flames.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Freddie_Gray

I'm still not exactly sure about how the death of Freddie Gray happened so take my explanation with a grain of salt.

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"Police encountered Freddie Gray on the morning of April 12, 2015,[5] in an area of Baltimore known for drug deals and violent crimes, according to a police spokesperson.[2] Gray attempted to flee "unprovoked" on foot, but police on bicycles chased and tackled Gray, found a switchblade in his pocket, and took him into custody at 8:40 a.m.[5][10] Two bystanders captured Gray's arrest with video recordings, showing Gray being dragged into the van by officers. A bystander with connections to Gray stated that the officers were "folding" Gray—with one officer bending Gray's legs backwards, and another holding Gray down on his neck with his knee. Another witness told the Baltimore Sun that they had witnessed Gray being beaten with batons.[11][5]

According to the police timeline, Gray was in a transport van within 11 minutes of his arrest, and within 30 minutes, paramedics were summoned to take Gray to a hospital.[2] He was taken to the University of Maryland R. Adams Cowley Shock Trauma Center, in a coma within an hour of being taken into police custody.[2][12] The statement of charges filed by Officer Garrett Miller against Gray accused him of possessing a switchblade. Miller wrote, "The defendant was arrested without force or incident."[1] Officers also reported "that he suffered a medical emergency during transport".[13][5]

In the following week, according to the Gray family attorney, Gray was resuscitated, remained in a coma, and underwent extensive surgery in an effort to save his life.[2] According to his family, he lapsed into a coma after his spine was "80% severed" at his neck, he had three fractured vertebrae, and his larynx was injured.[3][4] He died on April 19, 2015, a week after his arrest.[10]"

Fun fact: the Orioles games that have been cancelled this week are the first that have been called off due to rioting since the 1992 LA Riots, when the Dodgers had games called off.

Also, it should be noted that it's pretty much illegal to bring a freaking kitchen knife to school, even if the purpose is legitimate (such as for lunch, or possibly an assignment). I really fucking hate how militarized the U.S. has become.

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(04-29-2015 09:18 AM)Hansgrohe Wrote:  Also, it should be noted that it's pretty much illegal to bring a freaking kitchen knife to school, even if the purpose is legitimate (such as for lunch, or possibly an assignment). I really fucking hate how militarized the U.S. has become.

That depends on the area you are in. In my school, its pretty easy to get away with bring a switch to my school. I've done it before, and one of my friends brought a butterfly knife to school one time.

I think that the reaction of the cop to Freddie and his switch was because of his urban experiences.

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Yeah... I know a lot of people who just carry a pocket knife, but they're not going to kill anybody. It's that: self-defense. You might as well criminalize pepper spray because it MIGHT be used to mug someone.

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In authoritarian America, if there is a slight chance of something wrong occurring, then the authorities ban it. I'm being vague here, but I'm to lazy to emphasize. My point being that, it's better to just ignore the problem, rather than fix it, correct?

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You know, that's actually a good sum up of American mentality. Kinda reminds me on how we're told just to not have sex.

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Goddamn video uploading bastards damn red boxes! I can't close the top most box because the X gets under the video title when I try to click it.

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Looks like Freddie was just carrying a regular pocket knife instead of a switch. (I still don't see why switchblades are illegal though.) I hope the cops get jail time for this, but that doesn't excuse the idiotic actions of the rioters.

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Probably because switchblades can be more easily concealed?

But more realistic, the association of switchblades with criminals and thugs caused public hysteria that led to "tough" laws against what was commonly perceived as a weapon only utilized for criminal activity. Then people forgot and hysteria ended but nobody is bothered to repeal or whatever.

BTW running from the cops basically means they have the right to take you down and search you. If you run when they approach, its basically supplying the reasonable suspicion for them to legally conduct a search. And if your carrying some sort of weapon, like a knife, you would need something more than "for self defense" since the credibility would not be significant if your first reaction was to run from the cops.

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Switchblades suck. You can't stab with em they just break off. So flimsy.

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The pocket knife I carry is this:

http://www.amazon.com/Smith-Wesson-SWMP4...B002OAY7WQ

I don't see how a knife like this (Where the blade "flicks" out) is legal and switches are not.

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silly legal mumbo-jumbo is why.

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It's really disconcerting that so many people are focusing on the property damage done by the rioters when the majority of those who are protesting are peaceful and only trying to bring attention to the lives lost through police malpractice. You can replace property. Lives are irreplaceable. The riots need to be looked at as a symptom of a problem that needs to be solved. Not as "apes being apes," as a friend of my father put it.

Police should be required to purchase malpractice insurance. Their salaries should increase by the average cost for an officer to purchase his own personal malpractice insurance. If an officer has been involved in too many cases ending in lawsuits, that officer's malpractice insurance will become cost-prohibitive, making the officer in question impossible to hire.

Police should also be required to have body cameras active at all times. This would significantly increase the likelihood of there being an objective account of what happened. Had the officer who placed a gun against my head and threatened my life while I was in handcuffs been wearing an active bodycam, I would have had enough evidence to raise hell over the issue. Assuming it wouldn't have prevented him from doing it in the first place, of course. Instead, I was left with no recourse whatsoever.

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You actually don't even a lawsuit. You can file formal complaints with police and they do have actual impact in a majority of police depts. A cop gets enough complaints, and his superior will grill his ass and probably give em leveled punishments(ranging from like desk duty to suspension to even firing them).

Unfortunately, not many people are aware that such a system actually exists. So while the whole complaint system is set-up, not many civilians are aware that all it takes is a phone call to the police dept hq(with enough identifying information so they know who you're complaining about. Name, badge number, vehicle number, physical desc.)

Just don't let the cop you're going to complain about know you're planning to complain, even if it becomes evident that it was you after the fact. That includes asking for badge number, or blatantly saying "I'm going to file a complaint!". Such dirty cops have the opportunity to A)destroy validity of your complaint and B)find ways to punish you with either obscure but legit legal crimes or even arrest for something minor.

Remember that in the end, the police superiors and city politics are tied in with the public. The last thing any political official needs is cops in his city ruining the potential for re-election(or first thing a new candidate can go after is bad cops). While I'm not a big fan of overall national democracy, democracy's flaws amazingly help keep lots of local authority in line as long as enough of the public pays attention(and enough can be a pretty small number).

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(05-23-2015 05:12 AM)brainiac3397 Wrote:  You actually don't even a lawsuit. You can file formal complaints with police and they do have actual impact in a majority of police depts. A cop gets enough complaints, and his superior will grill his ass and probably give em leveled punishments(ranging from like desk duty to suspension to even firing them).

Unfortunately, not many people are aware that such a system actually exists. So while the whole complaint system is set-up, not many civilians are aware that all it takes is a phone call to the police dept hq(with enough identifying information so they know who you're complaining about. Name, badge number, vehicle number, physical desc.)

Just don't let the cop you're going to complain about know you're planning to complain, even if it becomes evident that it was you after the fact. That includes asking for badge number, or blatantly saying "I'm going to file a complaint!". Such dirty cops have the opportunity to A)destroy validity of your complaint and B)find ways to punish you with either obscure but legit legal crimes or even arrest for something minor.

Remember that in the end, the police superiors and city politics are tied in with the public. The last thing any political official needs is cops in his city ruining the potential for re-election(or first thing a new candidate can go after is bad cops). While I'm not a big fan of overall national democracy, democracy's flaws amazingly help keep lots of local authority in line as long as enough of the public pays attention(and enough can be a pretty small number).
So many unstable officers slip through the cracks. There were plenty of warning signs that lieutenant Brian Rice, the officer who initially stopped Freddie Gray, is unstable. I can't think ill of someone for having a mental illness, but he obviously shouldn't have stayed on the police force after threatening a man with his gun. It even led to a lengthy police standoff. Yet all it amounted to was the temporary confiscation of his firearms. At that point he should have at least received a pretty thorough mental health evaluation to determine whether or not he should remain on the force, if he wasn't outright fired of course. It's unacceptable that he could threaten to kill somebody and then use his authority as a police officer to attempt to have the same man arrested several years later and get away with it. -source

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It's the whole police fraternity thing that lets cops get away with those things. Luckily the complaint system is more stringently documented and any failure in it is more likely to lead to severe backlash(probably why cops don't even want to mention it). A formal complaint is a legally documented report that can be accessed easily during investigations. Failure to heed multiple complaints can basically lead to lots of heads rolling, especially if the mayor or council is getting public pressure.

Police reports on the other hand are another story. Wording can be smudged, making the event sound different. They can omit some key details. Hell, the people who are responsible for guaranteeing accuracy(like the superiors) can accept the low-quality report in some weird belief that they're "keeping up moral".

That's out external reporting is so useful. They can't change your words, they can't try to hide your report, and if they lose it they'll get flak because they're sure as hell not supposed to lose a report by a member of the public. However the media sure doesn't get involved with such awareness. Why would they? If people stopped protesting and suing, and ended up filing complaints instead, there'd be no more sensational news.

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(04-29-2015 08:56 AM)Missile Wrote:  So if anybody does't know whats going on. Freddie Gray got his neck broken after he got arrested, (I'm not exactly sure how his neck got broken though). And in response, various neighborhoods in Baltimore have gone up in flames.
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I'm still not exactly sure about how the death of Freddie Gray happened so take my explanation with a grain of salt.

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