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"Students are gasping for air, lacking the time to draw a measly breath in."
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"Students are gasping for air, lacking the time to draw a measly breath in."

This is a compelling argument by a student for what things have to change. Palo Alto has had a lot of teen suicides, and the schools are pressure-cooker variations of school-as-usual. The issues raised here apply in general, though.

What if everyone here wrote an op-end for their local papers, or for posting online? Maybe that would help parents and others begin to see what's wrong with school, and how education can look instead.

Paly school board rep: 'The sorrows of young Palo Altans

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"Telling us to go see a school counselor for stress is insufficient. It is analogous to putting a band aid over a fresh gunshot wound. Students in our district understand how to cope with stress; the real problem is that they simply have too much of it to cope with."

"We are not teenagers. We are lifeless bodies in a system that breeds competition, hatred, and discourages teamwork and genuine learning. We lack sincere passion. We are sick.

"Why is that not getting through to this community? Why does this insanity that is our school district continue?"

"These are issues that absolutely cannot wait. Please, no more endless discussions about what exactly it is that is wrong with our schools, and, above all, no more empty promises. Students live under constant stress every day of their lives. It is time to get to work."

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RE: "Students are gasping for air, lacking the time to draw a measly breath in."

Writing for a local paper sounds like fun but I don't they are just going to let a random person submit and publish an article. At least I think. I don't know much about newspapers.

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RE: "Students are gasping for air, lacking the time to draw a measly breath in."

That's basically what op-eds, opinion articles, are.

But, there are lots of options for publishing online, too, including guest posts on established blogs.

Any idea what you'd focus on?

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"Students are gasping for air, lacking the time to draw a measly breath in."

You would be surprised how willing newspapers are to publish the words of a young person.

I think it's the assumption that kids' words aren't goign to be heard that makes them not try. But you shouldn't assume that your voice can't be heard.

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"Students are gasping for air, lacking the time to draw a measly breath in."

Why not try it -- write down whatever you're thinking about your experience of school. Dont' try to organize it in the first draft. You could even post it here.

I'm envisioning a raw observation, no huge sweeping proclamations, just the things that happen to kids in school, how it makes you feel, what you want but cant' seem to have, what you're forced to have that you don't want. No exaggerations or drama, just the facts of daily life.

That's my idea....you can develop your own.

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"Students are gasping for air, lacking the time to draw a measly breath in."

Hmmmm, maybe I should actually write for more papers.

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