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The problem with school movies is that they only show the point of view of kids from a certain group. The star of a kid movie is rarely: sporty, loner, goth, emo or preppy or any other type. Why do they do this? Not that I support stereotypes but why does the star of a school just about always have the same point of view and interest. I think they should make a school movie starring a kid that is shy, emo and a loner. Anything but the usual!!!
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School, as well as learning and life, can surely be covered much better than existing movies and TV series that cover growing up.
I think doing a series as more of a documentary/reality format as a lot of promise, as there are so many real life stories, people, and situations to cover... just need interest and consent from a number of people in the same place. (And, probably multiple places as well, for a story that shows the effects of global interconnectedness.)
Fictionalized storytelling has a lot of promise too, though...
School movies are almost never accurate. High School Musical wasn't even meant to be realistic
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(02-16-2014 03:29 PM)crazyguy562 Wrote: I'm talking 'bout; High School Musical, Diary of a Wimpy Kid, Mean Girls, Fast Times at Ridgemont High, Monster High etc.
Yeah, as much as I hate to admit it (It's one of the few books I still enjoy and the movies are okay too) Diary of a Wimpy Kid has an overly-typical person as it's main character.
High School Musical is one of those things you look back at and say "why did I like this?"
I can actually add to that list if you say movies and books: Dork Diaries, Dear Dumb Diary, and Equestria Girls (ironic since it's spun-off of a series known for having it's main characters only having one thing in common)
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What would a school movie that's "accurate" look like?
And, what would make for a more interesting, and worthwhile, movie based on school?
What about a transformation of how the school works, based on learner-centric practices? Maybe not an everyday scene in school, but I can imagine it based on what so many people are saying about "factory model schools" surviving into the 21st century.
An "accurate" school movie might be quite hard to make because of the diversity of factory model schools in the US. Suburban, rural, inner-city, urban, etc.
I would like to see a school move from the POV of a "cognitive refugee".
Make your own movies then. Start off by buying the crappiest camera you can afford and just work with poor production values. You probably won't ever be able to catch a break, but if you do, you know exactly what to do. I think there's definitely a market out there for movies featuring loners that isn't being exploited, since it's a little counter-intuitive if you're trying to make a movie that sells well.
Has anyone seen Ferris Bueller's day off? I don't know if it counts as a school movie. If no one has, it's about this guy named Ferris Bueller trying to not go to school by faking being sick.
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(02-21-2014 02:08 AM)|55555| Wrote: Make your own movies then. Start off by buying the crappiest camera you can afford and just work with poor production values. You probably won't ever be able to catch a break, but if you do, you know exactly what to do. I think there's definitely a market out there for movies featuring loners that isn't being exploited, since it's a little counter-intuitive if you're trying to make a movie that sells well.
(02-21-2014 02:08 AM)|55555| Wrote: Make your own movies then. Start off by buying the crappiest camera you can afford and just work with poor production values. You probably won't ever be able to catch a break, but if you do, you know exactly what to do. I think there's definitely a market out there for movies featuring loners that isn't being exploited, since it's a little counter-intuitive if you're trying to make a movie that sells well.
Exactly. Likewise, there's not much being done about how out-of-place traditional school is in the 21st century. Likewise, I don't see anything being filmed about cognitive refugees who can't stand it, and are discovering far better ways to learn (or who are lost in the wilderness.)
(02-21-2014 02:50 AM)Lollipopgirl Wrote: Has anyone seen Ferris Bueller's day off? I don't know if it counts as a school movie. If no one has, it's about this guy named Ferris Bueller trying to not go to school by faking being sick.
Yeah, I've seen that. It definitely counts, though it's a different kind than the sort crazyguy was complaining about. That's the closest to a "question school" film many people have probably seen.
(02-16-2014 03:06 PM)Gwedin Wrote: I've only seen one movie about school that I can recall, and that's Suicide Room, where the protagonist is your average loner/emo/depressed guy.
yeah , the school never present movies like that
Most of them is presenting stereotypes ...
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"CONSENSUAL incest is not wrong. (Abuse victims: being abused by a relative does not make it wrong for others to have consensual incest, any more than rape by a stranger makes all sex wrong. Sex and assault/molestation are two different things.) An aversion became common in humans that aided in population growth as one disease couldn't wipe out the human race. That's not a problem anymore.
Consensual incest is very common. You know people who have been involved, whether you know it or not.
There is no rational reason for keeping laws or taboos against consensual
incest that is consistently applied to other relationships. Personal disgust or religion is only a reason why one person would not want to personally engage in what I call consanguinamory, not why someone else shouldn't do it. An adult should be free to share love, sex, residence, and marriage with ANY consenting adults. Youthful experimentation between close relatives close in age is not uncommon, and there are more people than you'd think out there who are in lifelong healthy, happy relationships with a close relative. It isn't for everyone, but we're not all going to want to have each others' love lives, now are we? If someone thinks YOUR love life is disgusting, should you be thrown in prison?
Some people try to justify their prejudice against consanguineous sex and
marriage by being part-time eugenicists and saying that such relationships inevitably lead to “mutant” or “deformed” babies. This argument can be refuted on several fronts. 1. Some consanguineous relationships involve only people of the same gender. 2. Not all mixed-gender relationships birth biological children. 3. Most births to consanguineous parents do not produce children with significant birth defects or other genetic problems; while births to other parents do sometimes have birth defects. 4. We don’t prevent other people from marrying or deny them their reproductive rights based on increased odds of passing along a genetic problem or inherited disease. It is true that in general, children born to consanguineous parents have an increased chance of these problems than those born to nonconsanguineous parents, but the odds are still minimal. Unless someone is willing to deny reproductive rights and medical privacy to others and force everyone to take genetic tests and bar carriers and the congenitally disabled and women over 35 from having children, then equal protection principles prevent this from being a justification to bar this freedom of association and freedom to marry.
Some say "Your sibling should not be your lover." That is not a reason. It begs the question. Many people have many relationships that have more than one aspect. Some women say their sister is their best friend. Why can’t their sister be a wife, too?
Some say “There is a power differential.” This applies least of all to siblings or cousins who are close in age, but even where the power differential exists, it is not a justification for denying this freedom to sex or to marry. There is a power differential in just about any relationship, sometimes an enormous power differential. To question if consent is truly possible in these cases is insulting and demeaning.
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