Your homework is not your homework

[stevehein]

It is a lie to call it your homework.

This is like telling a slave "Do your work"

No, the slave is doing the master's work.

School can be thought of as slave training.

To train the slaves, the masters give them tasks. They aren't profiting yet from the time spent in training, but they will profit later and they know that.

I see little difference between doing school work and doing slave work or being trained to be a slave.

Congratulations to SoulRiser for not becoming a slave. She taught herself programming and now is financially dependent. She is one of the people who inspires me.

For her to keep maintaining this site, with all the headache it sometimes causes her, with pple fightin getc, its something I highly admire and respect her for.

[MrAnonymous]

Watch out for the grammar near the end. And yes, this site is good because you get to hang out with people that aren't going to judge you.

School is almost like religion. It threatens punishment if you don't stay with them—an "unsuccessful life."

[Trekkie_Aspie]

Yeh. For fun: try looking up the abusive relationship/cult warning signs and see how many apply to school.

[MurkScribe]

Quote:School is almost like religion. It threatens punishment if you don't stay with them—an "unsuccessful life."

Well more so an organized religion. Not all religions have a either for us or against us kind of mentality.

Yeah, but I see what you mean. As in it's a dangerous belief system and people are blindsided in the belief system. Ignorant and willing to spread their belief system using fear and stigma.

[stevehein]

I was thinking about this more.

If something is forced upon you, is it yours?

If someone is repeatedly raping a girl, would we say he is her boyfriend?

If someone is forced to marry someone, is it fair to say "your husband"?

If you did not voluntarily choose something is it "yours"?

What about saying "my house" or "my school"?

Does the house or school belong to you? Can you sell it? Give it a way? Dispose of it?

Most teenagers I know don't own their own homes. None own their own schools. So I suggest we stop using these terms so we can see things more clearly and realistically.

Even "my room." If a parent says, "go to your room", is it actually your room? If you owned it, then it would be yours. You could then tell the people called "your" parents, not to come inside, or they could be arrested for trespassing if you asked them to leave and hey didn't.

I know a lot of teenagers who cannot put a lock on the door to the room they are sleeping in.

I met a guy here in Uruguay whose parents have enough money to pay for him to really have his own room, his own apartment, but they won't help him move out. They feel a need to control him. So he works a waiter to be a little more independent. He is 18, so he is legally free, but not yet financially free.

If society really valued freedom as much as they say they do, they would arrange things differently so young people would be free.

This makes me think of a question which I will put in a new thread...

[Mo the jo]

Actually, the first schools that looked like the schools of today were religious schools.

[SoulRiser]

Quote:It is a lie to call it your homework.

This is like telling a slave "Do your work"

No, the slave is doing the master's work.

Very good point... taking ownership of the homework is like accepting that you "must" do it... like it's your responsibility... no, it isn't - unless you willingly chose it.

Quote:Congratulations to SoulRiser for not becoming a slave. She taught herself programming and now is financially dependent. She is one of the people who inspires me.

For her to keep maintaining this site, with all the headache it sometimes causes her, with pple fightin getc, its something I highly admire and respect her for.

[MrAnonymous]

(01-17-2015 04:33 PM)stevehein Wrote:  I was thinking about this more.

If something is forced upon you, is it yours?

If someone is repeatedly raping a girl, would we say he is her boyfriend?

If someone is forced to marry someone, is it fair to say "your husband"?

If you did not voluntarily choose something is it "yours"?

What about saying "my house" or "my school"?

Does the house or school belong to you? Can you sell it? Give it a way? Dispose of it?

Most teenagers I know don't own their own homes. None own their own schools. So I suggest we stop using these terms so we can see things more clearly and realistically.

Even "my room." If a parent says, "go to your room", is it actually your room? If you owned it, then it would be yours. You could then tell the people called "your" parents, not to come inside, or they could be arrested for trespassing if you asked them to leave and hey didn't.

I know a lot of teenagers who cannot put a lock on the door to the room they are sleeping in.

I met a guy here in Uruguay whose parents have enough money to pay for him to really have his own room, his own apartment, but they won't help him move out. They feel a need to control him. So he works a waiter to be a little more independent. He is 18, so he is legally free, but not yet financially free.

If society really valued freedom as much as they say they do, they would arrange things differently so young people would be free.

This makes me think of a question which I will put in a new thread...

One of the problems with people in our society is that we do acknowledge that there are problems (such as in modern schooling), but we don't take action; we rely on a superhero to do it for us. If we want change, we have to act and not just hope it will magically change for the better.