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Bug how can parents explain to the school that they support their kid in 'dropping out'?

So I need advice on how to withdraw my son from high school. His guidance counselor and the school psychologist are relentless. I can't imagine what a pain in the arse this will be. Haven't started the process yet, but my son told the GC what his plan is and of course she called me straightaway.
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RE: how can parents explain to the school that they support their kid in 'dropping out'?

You are the parent. If kid can legally be withdrawn/dropout and you support it, you walk in their and tell those bastards to sod off because it's your kid as well as the fact your kid can legally be withdrawn.

Parents these days fail to realize its YOUR CHILD. The admins didn't procreate,gestate,carry and deliver said kid. Hell they do a bad enough job teaching em.

Best way is simplest way,and pardon my language, by telling em to "Fuck Off".(assuming they become pain in ass if you state your support and intention to allow kid to dropout. Remember, most GC and Shrinks are materialistic scumbags brought up in a dog eat dog screw everyone else capitalist utopia. I'm more towards the side that in their mind, the dropout of your kid isn't a moral dilemma but a "oh shit this is gonna affect my record/school record and possibly reduce my pay thanks to current US education policy so like a debt collector I'm gonna bullshit and harass to prevent it from happening".

Then again I am pretty distrustful of GCs because I believe they are deceitful bastards who never properly lay out ALL the options as well as take credit for things the student accomplished(eg "I got this student into Harvard!" When in fact the student himself/herself had sufficient whatever to get in)

I see them as parasites, unnecessary spending, the last defense of a corrupt system taking advantage of the vulnerably unaware and confused students. They make college applications sound harder than filing taxes, they make up lies, spread myths, exaggerate, omit and manipulate. Their very existence and supposed importance(lots of colleges want GC signature and recommendation) makes them vile demons(if it hasn't occurred to you yet, I am generalizing all GCs as demons, thus demonizing). You aren't human to them, you're just a student...a statistic, one more reason they might get a raise to buy a new home while they ship you off to an expensive college and leave you in crippling debt because they didn't want to dissuade you by involving finances nor did they want to go through the trouble of explaining it.

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how can parents explain to the school that they support their kid in 'dropping out'?

It's you and your son's decision... it's not up to them. You don't have to please them, and you don't have to care about anything they say.

Just tell them that he's leaving school, and that the decision has already been made, and there's nothing they can do to change your mind. Be polite, but firm.

If they still nag on after that, then do what Brainiac suggested. Razz

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how can parents explain to the school that they support their kid in 'dropping out'?

Usually there's a formal process for withdrawing a student from school, to homeschool, and/or to "drop out."

For Ohio, here's the info: http://education.ohio.gov/Topics/School-...-Schooling

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how can parents explain to the school that they support their kid in 'dropping out'?

Here's some more detailed information from that site:
http://education.ohio.gov/Topics/School-...-Schooling

It could be useful to get in touch with homeschooling/unschooling groups in your area, who can help with the specifics. One place to ask for advice and support is Lisa Nielsen's Homeschooling/Unschooling FB group.

EDIT: Here's a form you can use for the Superintendent notification:
http://education.ohio.gov/getattachment/...m.PDF.aspx

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Googled "Ohio homeschool notification sample letter" and got this site at the top. http://peachhomeschool.org/wp-content/up...-Form1.pdf

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RE: how can parents explain to the school that they support their kid in 'dropping out'?

What's the best thing to say to get them off my back??

You can tell them it is a family decision and that while you appreciate their concern, in the last analysis it is your family and your decision.

If they persist, you can tell them it is for religious reasons and ask them if they want to hear about Jesus. That is usually sufficient to get most people to lose interest in you real quick.
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ow can parents explain to the school that they support their kid in 'dropping out'?

How old is he and what state are you in?

Or are you outside the United States?

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(01-17-2015 01:27 AM)brainiac3397 Wrote:  materialistic scumbags brought up in a dog eat dog screw everyone else capitalist utopia.

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(01-17-2015 01:27 AM)brainiac3397 Wrote:  You are the parent. If kid can legally be withdrawn/dropout and you support it, you walk in their and tell those bastards to sod off because it's your kid as well as the fact your kid can legally be withdrawn.

Parents these days fail to realize its YOUR CHILD. The admins didn't procreate,gestate,carry and deliver said kid. Hell they do a bad enough job teaching em.

Best way is simplest way,and pardon my language, by telling em to "Fuck Off".(assuming they become pain in ass if you state your support and intention to allow kid to dropout. Remember, most GC and Shrinks are materialistic scumbags brought up in a dog eat dog screw everyone else capitalist utopia. I'm more towards the side that in their mind, the dropout of your kid isn't a moral dilemma but a "oh shit this is gonna affect my record/school record and possibly reduce my pay thanks to current US education policy so like a debt collector I'm gonna bullshit and harass to prevent it from happening".

Then again I am pretty distrustful of GCs because I believe they are deceitful bastards who never properly lay out ALL the options as well as take credit for things the student accomplished(eg "I got this student into Harvard!" When in fact the student himself/herself had sufficient whatever to get in)

I see them as parasites, unnecessary spending, the last defense of a corrupt system taking advantage of the vulnerably unaware and confused students. They make college applications sound harder than filing taxes, they make up lies, spread myths, exaggerate, omit and manipulate. Their very existence and supposed importance(lots of colleges want GC signature and recommendation) makes them vile demons(if it hasn't occurred to you yet, I am generalizing all GCs as demons, thus demonizing). You aren't human to them, you're just a student...a statistic, one more reason they might get a raise to buy a new home while they ship you off to an expensive college and leave you in crippling debt because they didn't want to dissuade you by involving finances nor did they want to go through the trouble of explaining it.

That help ya? Biggrin

Haha well yea I think I can see where you stand on this whole GC issueLaugh

The afternoon after I posted this thread proved to be quite interesting because I spoke with this GC for nearly an hour. She actually agreed that dropping out of school is a viable option; that homeschooling and unschooling are good things. Needless to say I was shocked. Also, after I told her about how horribly my son has been treated throughout his entire 'scholastic career', she apologized for everyone&eveything. Like that makes it any better? No. But still, this is not how I anticipated this conversation going at all, especially after all the crap she was saying in our first discussion.

I think the greatest reason I need help with doing this is that I bought into this way of thinking my entire life. Didn't I hate school and think it was such a waste of time? Absolutely, but I was afraid of being beaten for disobeying. So I shut my mouth, went to school, and subjected myself to all the unthinkable abuse there because I knew it would be 100x worse at home.

You're right, though, this whole school thing is just something fabricated to keep the masses in line. No one neds to adhere to this way of thinking anymore.

I hope that in finally recognizing this, I can encourage my son to embrace the words of Robert Frost:


I shall be telling this with a sigh
Somewhere ages and ages hence:
Two roads diverged in a wood, and I—
I took the one less traveled by,
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(01-17-2015 02:32 AM)SoulRiser Wrote:  It's you and your son's decision... it's not up to them. You don't have to please them, and you don't have to care about anything they say.

Just tell them that he's leaving school, and that the decision has already been made, and there's nothing they can do to change your mind. Be polite, but firm.

If they still nag on after that, then do what Brainiac suggested. Razz

I think what kids--especially teenagers--don't understand is that parents are often just as lost as they are. Most definitely those who are like me. I had so many aspirations that were trampled on so many times when I was growing up that eventually they simply atrophied and became some niggling little thoughts in the back of my mind that came out a few times a day, then once a day, then once a week, then once a month, then....nothing. My spirit was gone because I believed everything I was told about school by my parents and teachers. Because I felt I had no other choice.

So, that's why it's difficult for me to do this. It's a whole new way of thinking. And it will take a lot to find support from those people in his life who are closest to him. But I will forge ahead and help him through this because I don't want to see what happened to me, and so many of my friends, happen to him.

And, as you said, if that doesn't work I'll just tell them to go fuck themselves Smilewinkgrin

(01-17-2015 07:08 AM)xcriteria Wrote:  Here's some more detailed information from that site:
http://education.ohio.gov/Topics/School-...-Schooling

It could be useful to get in touch with homeschooling/unschooling groups in your area, who can help with the specifics. One place to ask for advice and support is Lisa Nielsen's Homeschooling/Unschooling FB group.

EDIT: Here's a form you can use for the Superintendent notification:
http://education.ohio.gov/getattachment/...m.PDF.aspx

Thanks for links! Razz I've been reading up on all this info so I feel much more empowered. And the support group is fanastic
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(01-18-2015 03:40 AM)Jop Wrote:  
(01-17-2015 01:27 AM)brainiac3397 Wrote:  materialistic scumbags brought up in a dog eat dog screw everyone else capitalist utopia.

siiiiiiiigh BoredCuckoo

I think that just about sums it up
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If you make this move I truly believe you will find there is support out there for what you are trying to do -- You don't know me from Adam but I believe you can make this work!

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(01-20-2015 02:26 AM)lisafromjackson Wrote:  If you make this move I truly believe you will find there is support out there for what you are trying to do -- You don't know me from Adam but I believe you can make this work!

Thanks lisafromjackson Smile I have found so much support already. It's sad that the majority of it is from people who aren't involved in his day-to-day life. But we'll take what we can get!

(01-17-2015 09:25 AM)Trekkie_Aspie Wrote:  Googled "Ohio homeschool notification sample letter" and got this site at the top. http://peachhomeschool.org/wp-content/up...-Form1.pdf

Thanks! This is extremely helpful Biggrin

(01-18-2015 02:44 AM)TheCancer Wrote:  How old is he and what state are you in?

Or are you outside the United States?

He's 16 and we live in Ohio
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can parents explain to the school that they support their kid in 'dropping out'?

I didn't realize so many states, including Ohio, raised the dropout rate to 18. It's amazing to me how many people think school is the right place for everyone. I was hoping I could just tell you to go down to the school and just tell them. I'm glad others here have some good ideas but to me it almost seems like more trouble than it's worth. Especially since they reserve the right to get up in your business about it. That really sucks. Good luck.

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TheCancer:

yea that's the overwhelming feeling I've had, this is too much hassle because they want to try to be so strict about it here in Ohio. I think I've found some loopholes, though, so I'm optimistic this will come to fruition. Thanks for looking into it ☺️ The information I've found here is invaluable!
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