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To everyone who joined these forums at some point, and got discouraged by the negativity and left after a while (or even got literally scared off): I'm sorry.

I wasn't good enough at encouraging people to be kinder, and removing people who refuse to be kind. Encouraging people is hard, and removing people creates conflict, and I hate conflict... so that's why I wasn't better at it.

I was a very, very sensitive teen. The atmosphere of this forum as it is now, if it had existed in 1996, would probably have upset me far more than it would have helped.

I can handle quite a lot of negativity and even abuse now, but that isn't the point. I want to help people. I want to help the people who need it the most, and I want to help people like the 1996 version of me.

I'm still figuring out the best way to do that, but as it is now, these forums are doing more harm than good, and I can't keep running them.

Thank you to the few people who have tried to understand my point of view so far. I really, really appreciate you guys. You are beautiful people.

Everyone else: If after everything I've said so far, you still don't understand my motivations, I think it's unlikely that you will. We're just too different. Maybe someday in the future it might make sense, but until then, there's no point in arguing about it. I don't have the time or the energy for arguing anymore. I will focus my time and energy on people who support me, and those who need help.

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"Voices of School Survival"
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RE: "Voices of School Survival"

I think some of us need to collaborate on some kind of pamphlet, with sources to vouch for it as well. Something that is cheap yet convenient to use. I also like the idea of T-shirts as well.

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Hansgrohe, what would the pamphlet be about?

Dialogue On Education ... where students and adults meet to hash out issues related to school.
01-26-2015 08:42 AM
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Plain and simple: the reasons why school are horrible, why the education system is what it is, a better understanding about what the heck is even going on, and what you can do about it.

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"Voices of School Survival"

So, maybe have coverage of steps for:

(1) learning more about the problems and opportunities
a. summarize the history of education and why schools usually look the way they do today
b. most students today experience an industrial model of schooling, despite being in a hyper-connected world with abundant open information
c. explain how people differ and how it's very hard for school-as-usual to adapt to their needs, and for many of them to fit in with school-as-usual
d. explain what's not being taught or learned in most cases in school... like metacognition, empathy, how to figure out who you are what paths in life you might want, or not want to take, the details of any area of interest, many professional and life skills, and all that.
e. what people are doing, and what you can do -- how some people homeschool in various forms, including unschooling, go to various private schools, drop out completely, do early college, end up stuck in true prison, behavioral modification centers, and the like, go straight to work, etc.

(2) possibilities for changing school from within and without:
a. at the personal level, like learning to look at school in a different way
b. at the classroom level, by talking to teachers, sharing talks and articles with them, showing them changes you and other students want
c. at the school/district level (principal, school board) -- attend school board meetings, interview your school administration, survey and interview your students and teachers to learn about them, see about starting new clubs, etc.
d. at the bigger picture state/federal level (which would include lobbying politicians and the like, participating with StuVoice, NYRA, and other organizations.)
e. at the global level -- learn about what education is like around the world, including in places without school, with far worse school situations, and the like, and see about how you might be the change as people from around the world, in a range of situations, are increasingly online.

Each of these can be pretty short sections, no more than a page, with links and QR codes to additional resources, like talks, articles, discussions, and surveys.

(3) How to opt out of school and get on with your life -- for those who really don't want to be in school
a. learning about options and how to make your own
b. finding allies and opportunities
c. talking to your parents
d. learning about the laws and procedures for quitting school
e. alternate paths the work, diplomas/CHSPE/GED/etc., college if desired, other programs and opportunities
f. how to move out of your house when it's time -- basic information that your parents and schools may not tell you, and TV may not explain in much detail.

Addendum for teachers and administrators
a. how to join the broader conversations about the future of education
b. reasons to allow and even promote this guide within your schools and classrooms
c. class discussion guide, if you'd like to "assign" this to your class Razz
d. consider finding guest speakers who can address the benefits and possibilities for school change
e. how to deal with cognitive dissonance and an uncertain future

Addendum for parents and family
a. learning how to listen
b. how to be an ally for your kid
c. how to have meaningful and productive conversations, even when tensions run high (reference Crucial Conversations)
d. how to think about learning and life success beyond "grades grades grades" paradigms.
e. how to deal with the inevitable transfer of power to your growing young adult without ruining their life. Smile

-- throughout the guide, include relevant quotes and writing from those mired in school and those who have survived it -- Voices of School Survival --

How about something like that?

Peter Gray & allies launching the Alliance for Self-directed Education

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That sounds very well organized, xcriteria. Just get to the basic points.

RIP GWEDIN
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The latest one:

https://www.facebook.com/voicesofschools...31/?type=1

NOTE: The more people who like and share each of these posts, the more people will see it in their stream, due to FB's algorithm.

This is how posts go viral... help us make this viral by liking, sharing, and commenting!

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Peter Gray & allies launching the Alliance for Self-directed Education

ASDE Newsletters: #1 Announcement | #2 History of ASDE | #6 Education Liberation


School Survival & Catalyst Learning Network featured on AlternativestoSchool's blog
“Mom, Dad, can I stop going to school?”

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RE: "Voices of School Survival"

Hello!
Im Egonnes, and new to this really nice site. First of all, lovely work!! I really like the Meme idea.
Im at an age, where school is something you choose Wink. But, i really have sympathy for your project. I'm with robotjox who previously created a forum thread about a school survival kit, and I thought about some of these meme's could be included in the kit for the conference we are going in a few days? School-survival'll be allowed to remain on paper, as advertising. Sort of like uniting similar voices Smile.

Peace!
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