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[split] The School Survival Movement: Abolish Compulsory Schooling
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[split] The School Survival Movement: Abolish Compulsory Schooling

Hansgrohe, you're right that beefs are killing SS, but it's hard to get over beefs if a certain someone splits every "un constructive" post. Personally I support the concept of making school uncompulsory, but some things that have been said and done shouldn't stay unaddressed, like
the constant thread splitting and presumptious behavior
"I personally think DoA and I are the heart of SS". -SirMarty
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RE: [split] The School Survival Movement: Abolish Compulsory Schooling

ehh
if me and sharpie and gwedin left the forums it would just be just xcrit, brain, sirmarty and.. someone else

wee.

ye, but whoever split this is a giant fag
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(10-29-2014 03:32 AM)chained to desk Wrote:  Hansgrohe, you're right that beefs are killing SS, but it's hard to get over beefs if a certain someone splits every "un constructive" post. Personally I support the concept of making school uncompulsory, but some things that have been said and done shouldn't stay unaddressed, like
the constant thread splitting and presumptious behavior
"I personally think DoA and I are the heart of SS". -SirMarty

>read this
>notice thread is a split

this made me laugh a great hearty southern laugh
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RE: [split] The School Survival Movement: Abolish Compulsory Schooling

Yh i figured it'd be funny so i split it, do sumthin about it.
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[split] The School Survival Movement: Abolish Compulsory Schooling

wow that was quick, I made that as non-aggressive as possible, heck I even said I supported non-compulsory schooling.(which is true...)

Literally the only things I can remember thinking might be slightly pushing a few buttons were "a certain someone"," constant"," and "presumptuous behavior".

It must have been that quote that got it split, but honestly
if anyone is the " heart of SS",that's got to be xcriteria, he's been posting interesting, informative, and helpful things here as long as I can remember, SirMarty hasn't been around most of this forum for that long, I remember at some point he said for a long time he had only looked at School Talk and Venting.

I suppose I'll need to tiptoe very,very, carefully if I want to ever confront someone without getting split within 2 hours of posting...

EDIT:exact quote I meant to use is "DoA and I felt that we are the heart of this forum "
I'd like to hear a justification for this split, as i in no way see how i was trolling, attacking, or doing anything else that deserves a thread split. SirMarty in his movement for getting rid of compulsory schooling seems to be arguing for choice and essentially students deserving an educational institution that they would choose to go to because it can justify itself with logic of some sort.

Why then, does this post split not deserve a logical explanation?
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(10-29-2014 05:42 AM)Sharpie Wrote:  Yh i figured it'd be funny so i split it, do sumthin about it.

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[split] The School Survival Movement: Abolish Compulsory Schooling

Vhy was this split I dunt know.
At least when I split Gwedin's gif, it's because I was a faggot.

Srsly, step 1=can't moderate threads you create due to conflict of interest. This is just more evidence.

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[split] The School Survival Movement: Abolish Compulsory Schooling

It's worth noting that new people visit the site every day. A lot of them doing visit or join the forums... but from the site survey, there are a lot more people out there who aren't happy with school.

The question I'm asking is, what can we actually do about this?

Student Support Network and Student Voice are starting to get some momentum. If anyone wants to get involved in the conversations, let me know. A big goal is to actually helps students talk to their parents and teachers and show everyone what's wrong with school-as-usual and how education can be done in much better ways.

Maybe a network of outside support could help with that for some people stuck in school...

SS is definitely more than the core people on the forums... and I think if we produce some results, more students will be interested in becoming part of a community and network.

What do you think?

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To be honest, this rampant thread splitting is just something that is showing to me that the Forum helpers are just a failed experiment, good in theory, but bad in practice. Then again even the Moderators and Admins aren't doing a good job.

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Oh plz stahp generalizing.

Otherwise moderators are abominations that should cease to exist!

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