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To everyone who joined these forums at some point, and got discouraged by the negativity and left after a while (or even got literally scared off): I'm sorry.

I wasn't good enough at encouraging people to be kinder, and removing people who refuse to be kind. Encouraging people is hard, and removing people creates conflict, and I hate conflict... so that's why I wasn't better at it.

I was a very, very sensitive teen. The atmosphere of this forum as it is now, if it had existed in 1996, would probably have upset me far more than it would have helped.

I can handle quite a lot of negativity and even abuse now, but that isn't the point. I want to help people. I want to help the people who need it the most, and I want to help people like the 1996 version of me.

I'm still figuring out the best way to do that, but as it is now, these forums are doing more harm than good, and I can't keep running them.

Thank you to the few people who have tried to understand my point of view so far. I really, really appreciate you guys. You are beautiful people.

Everyone else: If after everything I've said so far, you still don't understand my motivations, I think it's unlikely that you will. We're just too different. Maybe someday in the future it might make sense, but until then, there's no point in arguing about it. I don't have the time or the energy for arguing anymore. I will focus my time and energy on people who support me, and those who need help.

-SoulRiser


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Help me with my essay, no you don't have to write it! :P
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Help me with my essay, no you don't have to write it! :P

So I had to write the rough draft for my first essay in English.
My essay is an analysis of this essay by John Holt.

I just got my rough draft back with all my professor's comments. i vaguely referenced SS in my essay and the countless stories of school I've heard here. But my professor asked me to cite one or two stories.

The paragraph I mentioned ss specifically was about basically how we've learned to pretty much trick our teachers into thinking we're working hard but we're really just trying to get it over with.

Though any story you can think of about how or why school made you lazy, uninterested, or really anything that comes to mind while reading the link above.

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No challenge.

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Help me with my essay, no you don't have to write it! :P

Cool!

In addition to stories from people here, you might want to read and cite this article from Michael Wesch.

http://www.britannica.com/blogs/2008/10/...rs-must-do

It's one of my favorite articles... all about college students playing the "getting by" game (and how education needs to change.)

This post from a 5th grade teacher fits in with that theme, too:

Who or What Broke My Kids?

(long G+ follow-up conversation about that...)

Peter Gray & allies launching the Alliance for Self-directed Education

ASDE Newsletters: #1 Announcement | #2 History of ASDE | #6 Education Liberation


School Survival & Catalyst Learning Network featured on AlternativestoSchool's blog
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RE: Help me with my essay, no you don't have to write it! :P

We offer experienced shamans who will convince the instructor to ignore the disparity between the writing style in the essay and any writing done in class.

Hello, traveler.

This is an ancient account I have not used in a long time. My views have changed much in the intervening months and years.

Nonetheless, I refuse to clean it up. Pretending that I've held my current views since the beginning of time is what we in the industry call a lie. Asking people to do so contributes to moralistic self-loathing. "See, those people have nothing damning! I do! I'm truly vile!"

Because you can never be a good person with a single blemish on the moral record, I thought that simply entertaining some thoughts made me irredeemable. Though I don't care for his writing style, William Faulkner presents a good counterexample. He went from being a typical Southern racist to supporting the civil rights movement. These days we'd yell at him for that, probably.

People are allowed to change their views.

Nevertheless, this period of my life has informed some of how I am today. In good ways and bad ways. To purge it would be to do a disservice to history. Perhaps it will not make anyone sympathetic, but it may help someone understand.

If, after reading all this, you still decide to use the post above as evidence that I am evil today, ask yourself if you have never disagreed with the moral code you now follow. In all likelihood you did, at some point. If some questions are verboten, and the answer is "how dare you ask that," don't expect your ideological opponents to ever change their minds.
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