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I wasn't good enough at encouraging people to be kinder, and removing people who refuse to be kind. Encouraging people is hard, and removing people creates conflict, and I hate conflict... so that's why I wasn't better at it.

I was a very, very sensitive teen. The atmosphere of this forum as it is now, if it had existed in 1996, would probably have upset me far more than it would have helped.

I can handle quite a lot of negativity and even abuse now, but that isn't the point. I want to help people. I want to help the people who need it the most, and I want to help people like the 1996 version of me.

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Feel free to provide aforementioned questions.

Oh, and I'll REALLY answer them too.

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Who are you?

What are you?

Why are you?

What was that noise?

Hello, traveler.

This is an ancient account I have not used in a long time. My views have changed much in the intervening months and years.

Nonetheless, I refuse to clean it up. Pretending that I've held my current views since the beginning of time is what we in the industry call a lie. Asking people to do so contributes to moralistic self-loathing. "See, those people have nothing damning! I do! I'm truly vile!"

Because you can never be a good person with a single blemish on the moral record, I thought that simply entertaining some thoughts made me irredeemable. Though I don't care for his writing style, William Faulkner presents a good counterexample. He went from being a typical Southern racist to supporting the civil rights movement. These days we'd yell at him for that, probably.

People are allowed to change their views.

Nevertheless, this period of my life has informed some of how I am today. In good ways and bad ways. To purge it would be to do a disservice to history. Perhaps it will not make anyone sympathetic, but it may help someone understand.

If, after reading all this, you still decide to use the post above as evidence that I am evil today, ask yourself if you have never disagreed with the moral code you now follow. In all likelihood you did, at some point. If some questions are verboten, and the answer is "how dare you ask that," don't expect your ideological opponents to ever change their minds.
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Do you love me?


Are condoms good to use as parachutes?


Is my toaster evil?
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Spiritual/religious views?

Meaning of life for you?
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Panda or muffin?

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How old are you?

I am 14, and have my own computer repair business! And I'm a small time DJ also. No joke.

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Quote:Who are you?
I am the filtered mean of a thousand contradictions. While poignantly self aware of all that I'm detached from, I'm just some guy who isn't quite sure how to be happy.

Quote:What are you?
Skin, bones, page 104, maybe more.

Quote:Why are you?
I'm not sure, and it is one of my innermost desires to never know.

Quote:What was that noise?
Even if we tore ourselves from it all. Run away from the living, build walls up to discourage the wind. You can still hear a heartbeat, it demands to be heard.

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(06-25-2014 01:16 PM)Sharpie Wrote:  Do you love me?


Are condoms good to use as parachutes?


Is my toaster evil?

I love you like I love no one else. You and your perfectly neutral toaster. I like your username as well, one doesn't read the writing on the wall in mechanical pencil. It's big and bold, multicolored and prone to smudging. You are unusually similar, I do imagine.

I think with enough condoms properly positioned, or a large enough condom....it should be possible?

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(06-25-2014 03:52 PM)KFC Nyan Cat Wrote:  Is your subtitle (Foreplay in Ink) mean the sexual foreplay?

I like the way small words can express capital B, Big concepts. Foreplay is expected to account for so much, those light kisses behind her ear, the usually tickling touch on the small of his back. You get the idea.

But what makes "foreplay" specific is that it happens before sex, and I sort of re-purposed the word "foreplay" to mean more like the word "precursor"

"Ink" can be used as a verb, "to ink" and I like the idea of changing its stem while keeping the idiom meaning.

My whole idea was to make something feel similar to "life is an STD" in that the wording feels unique and the connotation is sarcastically true. I currently am the precursor to what I write. Heck, I always am. My whole life is the foreplay in ink, and perhaps that is abit sexual?

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(06-25-2014 08:46 PM)Gwedin Wrote:  Spiritual/religious views?

Meaning of life for you?

I don't have any spiritual or religious views to speak of. When I was younger I was told to be jewish and that didn't feel right. I think that I believe that I exist in some way, and so my meaning of life has to test the boundaries of my own existence.

My meaning of life is to feel as much as possible, so that I can sketch the outline of what it means for me to be alive.

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(06-25-2014 10:52 PM)SoulRiser Wrote:  Panda or muffin?

On one hand we have the living, breathing, holy shit is that a bear, black to the white PANADA...They sneeze, they feel and tumble, and hey they aren't that great at having sex. I think we connect to animals because they avoid simplicity, they are more than their eating habits and physical restrictions. I can identify with that.

Muffins on the other hand are insane. Lets just take a step back and try to ponder the sheer ridiculous course of fate that ultimately resulted in the insanity that is a muffin. We had to take this inedible useless plant like grain, or wheat.....crush it into flour which was still inedible so why are we still messing with it? Mix it with unborn chickens and the lactation of cows. Oh and if we want it to taste any good we need some of that lactation to ferment into butter. And then after all that, we need to cook it evenly on all sides distributing heat in time consuming individual serving sized molds.

Like what? Why would humanity ever decide that muffins are a good idea? I've gotta side with the Panda. At least they have some method to their madness.

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(06-26-2014 12:08 AM)rockstarjim22 Wrote:  How old are you?

23

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Thoughts on the Althusserians?

Was Poulantzas' works really a Marxist response to Michel Foucault as one post in RL pointed out?

Was Karl Korsch correct in his Ten Theses on Marxism Today?
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Do you love yourself?

At this very moment, what is your strongest desire?

What is love?

Why is love both painful and beautiful?

How fast is my ceiling fan spinning right now?

Do you enjoy where you live?
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Why do we humans bother with this thing called life?

Hello, traveler.

This is an ancient account I have not used in a long time. My views have changed much in the intervening months and years.

Nonetheless, I refuse to clean it up. Pretending that I've held my current views since the beginning of time is what we in the industry call a lie. Asking people to do so contributes to moralistic self-loathing. "See, those people have nothing damning! I do! I'm truly vile!"

Because you can never be a good person with a single blemish on the moral record, I thought that simply entertaining some thoughts made me irredeemable. Though I don't care for his writing style, William Faulkner presents a good counterexample. He went from being a typical Southern racist to supporting the civil rights movement. These days we'd yell at him for that, probably.

People are allowed to change their views.

Nevertheless, this period of my life has informed some of how I am today. In good ways and bad ways. To purge it would be to do a disservice to history. Perhaps it will not make anyone sympathetic, but it may help someone understand.

If, after reading all this, you still decide to use the post above as evidence that I am evil today, ask yourself if you have never disagreed with the moral code you now follow. In all likelihood you did, at some point. If some questions are verboten, and the answer is "how dare you ask that," don't expect your ideological opponents to ever change their minds.
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Is being a vatman as boring as it sounds?

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Why aren't you cauldronman or potman or bucketman or bowlman?

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Quote:Do you love yourself?
It's a tango of passion really. Sometimes when I get the phrasing just right I fall so fast that the world implodes around me. Right now though, it tastes sour and I regret letting myself go to second base.

Quote:At this very moment, what is your strongest desire?
The power went out an hour ago and my house feels like some murky swamp, all I could ever want is a fan facing me and some cold cream soda.

Quote:What is love?
Baby don't hurt me. I can't put my finger on it really, perhaps its the end goal of passion? The final frontier of imagination. I could be playing it up, it probably just has something to do with hope.

Quote:Why is love both painful and beautiful?
Loving something is resigning yourself to let it hurt you. And isn't that just perfect?

Quote:How fast is my ceiling fan spinning right now?
Faster then the speed of smell! I love ceiling fans because they imitates weather, in that it comes from above. Too few things come from above, and often that which does is far less convenient than a steady breeze.

Quote:Do you enjoy where you live?
It's remote enough to have wildlife and connected enough to let me be in the city in two episodes of True Detective. I think it's the pinnacle of suburbia, the ceiling fan of painful love and momentary desire. Also, it smells nice.

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(06-26-2014 07:20 AM)no Wrote:  Why do we humans bother with this thing called life?

I sometimes wonder that myself. My last blogpost was on this subject but different mood, different outlook. I think maybe we see the potential for what life could be? Because we can fathom outcomes so absurdly great, it's worth the gamble to move forward?

I was thinking the other day how unfortunate it is that I couldn't be born a hundred years from now so that I could waste my life on the video games of tomorrow.

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(06-26-2014 11:27 AM)Alistoriv Wrote:  Is being a vatman as boring as it sounds?

Never a dull moment when you are clinging to unsure realities. There was a scene in an episode of Louie where his daughters are in the backseat of the car during a long road trip. They say, "daddy I'm bored!" and Louie comically replies that, "you aren't allowed to be bored, there is literally everything else in the world that you still haven't done" or something like that...

I like that. I like looking at the world as a never ending puzzle, where having to do a boring assignment is like exploring an ancient ruin. It's not true though, not everywhere light touches is color.

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(06-26-2014 12:41 PM)brainiac3397 Wrote:  Why aren't you cauldronman or potman or bucketman or bowlman?

What better an object to contain myself than my real name. Vatman is my real life surname.

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What do you think your ancestors did to warrant the surname of Vatman?

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How are you doing? Have you seen Kill Your Darlings? If so, what'd you think of it? Like Ginsberg at all? Are you published yet? It's been a while man.

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(06-26-2014 04:38 PM)W Kuts Wrote:  What do you think your ancestors did to warrant the surname of Vatman?

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The more immediate branches of my family came to this country from eastern europe where we had a very different last name. It would probably be spelled something like "Wattmen". Upon immigrating to this country it was difficult for my grandparents to pronounce their names to an American immigration worker and the resulting pronunciation sounded something like "Vaught-mein"...

Whats interesting is that many other peoples of Jewish decent with the surname Wattmen or Wattman ended up with the last name Vatman in other countries as well. We are of broken lineages, born of mispronunciations.

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What if I told you I was a witch?
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Are all my questions going to be answered by you soon?

I mean, I already know my thoughts on what Korsch wrote, and honestly I think he underestimated his own tendency.
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Oh, I was under the impression that your name was a reference to the job of a vatman, who puts the pulp into a mold in the process of making paper. It fit with your whole persona and stuff.

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Are you single or in a relationship?

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(06-27-2014 07:04 AM)Cianna200 Wrote:  What if I told you I was a witch?

Boil Boil Toil and Trouble. Roald Dahl once quipped that, "people who don't believe in magic will never find it." While I don't think he was speaking about spells and incantations, I do think that it's important to be inspired by the impossible... it's how we fall in love afterall

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