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To everyone who joined these forums at some point, and got discouraged by the negativity and left after a while (or even got literally scared off): I'm sorry.
I wasn't good enough at encouraging people to be kinder, and removing people who refuse to be kind. Encouraging people is hard, and removing people creates conflict, and I hate conflict... so that's why I wasn't better at it.
I was a very, very sensitive teen. The atmosphere of this forum as it is now, if it had existed in 1996, would probably have upset me far more than it would have helped.
I can handle quite a lot of negativity and even abuse now, but that isn't the point. I want to help people. I want to help the people who need it the most, and I want to help people like the 1996 version of me.
I'm still figuring out the best way to do that, but as it is now, these forums are doing more harm than good, and I can't keep running them.
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Everyone else: If after everything I've said so far, you still don't understand my motivations, I think it's unlikely that you will. We're just too different. Maybe someday in the future it might make sense, but until then, there's no point in arguing about it. I don't have the time or the energy for arguing anymore. I will focus my time and energy on people who support me, and those who need help.
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(06-24-2014 05:11 AM)Evan92 Wrote: Speaking as a gay man myself, there seems to be more acceptance overall as of late. I often wonder if the whole concept of "pride" isn't doing us a bit of disservice. I went to a parade in my city back in 07 just to see what is was like and I can't say I didn't feel a little bit of shame. There must be more awareness and acceptance but is this really the people we want representing us? A street littered with nothing but stereotypes, people in ridiculous attire shouting, practically a minstrel show of the gay community.
Speaking as a lesbian, I don't want to convince straight people that I'm 'normal', I want as much as much space as they allow for themselves.
"Do we treat straight public sex differently than we do gay public sex? Of course. Straight people are so proud of their public sex that they named a cocktail after it."
(06-24-2014 01:13 AM)SoulRiser Wrote: Oh, that reason. Well, I can understand it being abnormal for animals who rely entirely on instinct that tells them to reproduce... but we can decide stuff for ourselves that go beyond instinct. Not everything is about reproducing... clearly, humans have done a fine job of overpopulating this planet already, so there's really no need for everything to be about making babies anymore...
(06-23-2014 09:06 PM)Ferigeras Wrote: Same goes with masturbation, eating any kind of meat, sex before marriage, women that enjoy their life, and ANYTHING that makes happy.
What if it makes a person happy to beat up gays?
(06-24-2014 09:06 AM)KFC Nyan Cat Wrote: The only reason the Bible is used as an excuse for hating gays is that it said homosexuals are bad, but it was obviously referring to homosexuals of the time, who also did every other sex sin.
Technically the Bible forbids homosexual acts but doesn't say being homosexual is bad.
I've never let my school interfere with my education.
(06-24-2014 09:06 AM)KFC Nyan Cat Wrote: The only reason the Bible is used as an excuse for hating gays is that it said homosexuals are bad, but it was obviously referring to homosexuals of the time, who also did every other sex sin.
Technically the Bible forbids homosexual acts but doesn't say being homosexual is bad.
Even conservatives will tell you that sodomy didn't mean what it did in the Bible what it means today. In the Bible, the only thing it refers to is homosexual rape.
"Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence" - Donald Rumsfeld
For anyone who remembers me going on an archive binge: Thank you all. I know I ended it being a drama queen, I don't really agree with the ideology anymore, and I'm really not the same person I was (I went through a neopagan phase!) but still this site was the first online community I was in. I graduated from school and turned 18. Time flies. KFC Nyan Cat, June 20, 2019.
Sexuality shouldn't be a big fucking deal. What harm does sexual deviancy, "genetic defects", cause to anyone as long as it's not deeply associated with non-consensual sex?
Enjoyment at the expense of others isn't the same fucking thing as just enjoyment.
(This post was last modified: 07-08-2014 10:58 AM by LOON_ATTIC.)
07-08-2014 10:51 AM
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If your gay, I don't care, if your one of those flamboyant ones that dress like women and where those "insert dicks here" shirts, (I'm going to have problems with you)
I don't like the gay rights movement, not because I'm homophobic, it's because it has become so "accept us or die". Also remember when most of California didn't want gay marriage but the judge denied their vote. “If we are about intimidating the free speech of others, we are no better than the anti-gay bullies who came before us,” laments blogger Andrew Sullivan (who is gay), in a widely circulated blog post. If you have to tape the mouths of your opponents shut your movement isn't about rights, it's about getting your way by taking others rights away.
Quote:ANYONE who discriminates it in ANY way deserves to get locked up, have their fingernails bent back and ripped off, their face smashed in between a sandwich toaster, thier dick caught in a toaster/vagina impaled by hot wire, their eyes bitten off, a cold needle through their nerve, beaten to a pulp with a giant wrecker and their skulls smashed so hard into the ground that it drives them to the earth's core.
I prefer the discriminating homophobic business owner to you and your incredibly dangerous violent desires.
Quote:ANYONE who discriminates it in ANY way deserves to get locked up, have their fingernails bent back and ripped off, their face smashed in between a sandwich toaster, thier dick caught in a toaster/vagina impaled by hot wire, their eyes bitten off, a cold needle through their nerve, beaten to a pulp with a giant wrecker and their skulls smashed so hard into the ground that it drives them to the earth's core.
I prefer the discriminating homophobic business owner to you and your incredibly dangerous violent desires.
Yeah that's a bit much...
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07-10-2014 09:25 AM
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Quote:ANYONE who discriminates it in ANY way deserves to get locked up, have their fingernails bent back and ripped off, their face smashed in between a sandwich toaster, thier dick caught in a toaster/vagina impaled by hot wire, their eyes bitten off, a cold needle through their nerve, beaten to a pulp with a giant wrecker and their skulls smashed so hard into the ground that it drives them to the earth's core.
I prefer the discriminating homophobic business owner to you and your incredibly dangerous violent desires.
I agree.
Hidden stuff:
I'm bisexual,BTW
Hidden stuff:
"CONSENSUAL incest is not wrong. (Abuse victims: being abused by a relative does not make it wrong for others to have consensual incest, any more than rape by a stranger makes all sex wrong. Sex and assault/molestation are two different things.) An aversion became common in humans that aided in population growth as one disease couldn't wipe out the human race. That's not a problem anymore.
Consensual incest is very common. You know people who have been involved, whether you know it or not.
There is no rational reason for keeping laws or taboos against consensual
incest that is consistently applied to other relationships. Personal disgust or religion is only a reason why one person would not want to personally engage in what I call consanguinamory, not why someone else shouldn't do it. An adult should be free to share love, sex, residence, and marriage with ANY consenting adults. Youthful experimentation between close relatives close in age is not uncommon, and there are more people than you'd think out there who are in lifelong healthy, happy relationships with a close relative. It isn't for everyone, but we're not all going to want to have each others' love lives, now are we? If someone thinks YOUR love life is disgusting, should you be thrown in prison?
Some people try to justify their prejudice against consanguineous sex and
marriage by being part-time eugenicists and saying that such relationships inevitably lead to “mutant” or “deformed” babies. This argument can be refuted on several fronts. 1. Some consanguineous relationships involve only people of the same gender. 2. Not all mixed-gender relationships birth biological children. 3. Most births to consanguineous parents do not produce children with significant birth defects or other genetic problems; while births to other parents do sometimes have birth defects. 4. We don’t prevent other people from marrying or deny them their reproductive rights based on increased odds of passing along a genetic problem or inherited disease. It is true that in general, children born to consanguineous parents have an increased chance of these problems than those born to nonconsanguineous parents, but the odds are still minimal. Unless someone is willing to deny reproductive rights and medical privacy to others and force everyone to take genetic tests and bar carriers and the congenitally disabled and women over 35 from having children, then equal protection principles prevent this from being a justification to bar this freedom of association and freedom to marry.
Some say "Your sibling should not be your lover." That is not a reason. It begs the question. Many people have many relationships that have more than one aspect. Some women say their sister is their best friend. Why can’t their sister be a wife, too?
Some say “There is a power differential.” This applies least of all to siblings or cousins who are close in age, but even where the power differential exists, it is not a justification for denying this freedom to sex or to marry. There is a power differential in just about any relationship, sometimes an enormous power differential. To question if consent is truly possible in these cases is insulting and demeaning.
Some say “There are so many people outside of your family." There are plenty of people within one’s own race, too, but that is no reason to ban interracial marriage. So, this isn't a good reason either. Let consenting adults love each other the way they want!"-Keith Pullman
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