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I get it being gay isn't normal. It's a glitch in the system, but you shouldn't be afraid to be gay. Sure it can be abnormal, but discrimination shouldn't happen because of it and it definitely shouldn't be bad.

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(06-23-2014 01:04 PM)Levi Wrote:  
I get it being gay isn't normal. It's a glitch in the system, but you shouldn't be afraid to be gay. Sure it can be abnormal, but discrimination shouldn't happen because of it and it definitely shouldn't be bad.

Fuck no.
Being gay is EXTREMELY normal and should be respected like EVERYTHING ELSE.

ANYONE who discriminates it in ANY way deserves to get locked up, have their fingernails bent back and ripped off, their face smashed in between a sandwich toaster, thier dick caught in a toaster/vagina impaled by hot wire, their eyes bitten off, a cold needle through their nerve, beaten to a pulp with a giant wrecker and their skulls smashed so hard into the ground that it drives them to the earth's core.

And LEAVE YOUR FUCKING TYRANT PRETENTION OF A GOD AWAY FROM THIS.
If homosexuality really makes your little made-up god butthurt, then he can go FUCK HIMSELF WITH A BURNING CACTUS.

Same goes with masturbation, eating any kind of meat, sex before marriage, women that enjoy their life, and ANYTHING that makes happy. If all of that makes you butthurt and ruins your religion's already stinky reputation, then you can all get a rusty burnt nail caught up your dickholes/vaginas!
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What the hell is 'normal' anyway?

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Simple. Normal is word people made up so they can fit in a certain group. Anyone not in that group would be abnormal or insane. Funny thing is that there is no consistent definition of normal. It's completely subjective

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(06-23-2014 09:06 PM)Ferigeras Wrote:  
(06-23-2014 01:04 PM)Levi Wrote:  
I get it being gay isn't normal. It's a glitch in the system, but you shouldn't be afraid to be gay. Sure it can be abnormal, but discrimination shouldn't happen because of it and it definitely shouldn't be bad.

Fuck no.
Being gay is EXTREMELY normal and should be respected like EVERYTHING ELSE.

ANYONE who discriminates it in ANY way deserves to get locked up, have their fingernails bent back and ripped off, their face smashed in between a sandwich toaster, thier dick caught in a toaster/vagina impaled by hot wire, their eyes bitten off, a cold needle through their nerve, beaten to a pulp with a giant wrecker and their skulls smashed so hard into the ground that it drives them to the earth's core.

And LEAVE YOUR FUCKING TYRANT PRETENTION OF A GOD AWAY FROM THIS.
If homosexuality really makes your little made-up god butthurt, then he can go FUCK HIMSELF WITH A BURNING CACTUS.

Same goes with masturbation, eating any kind of meat, sex before marriage, women that enjoy their life, and ANYTHING that makes happy. If all of that makes you butthurt and ruins your religion's already stinky reputation, then you can all get a rusty burnt nail caught up your dickholes/vaginas!
I'm completely done with religion. I have been for awhile. All those things like masturbation and sex before marriage are absolutely fine with me. Really I can't understand how our so-called understanding and accepting God cares who's fucking who on this planet.

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(06-23-2014 11:53 PM)SoulRiser Wrote:  What the hell is 'normal' anyway?
Guess what I meant by that is that we can't have children with the same gender can we? Evolution designed us so we need a female and male to reproduce (meaning of life). So it's really no wonder people thinks it's strange to see two of the same gender together. As I said no discrimination.

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Oh, that reason. Well, I can understand it being abnormal for animals who rely entirely on instinct that tells them to reproduce... but we can decide stuff for ourselves that go beyond instinct. Not everything is about reproducing... clearly, humans have done a fine job of overpopulating this planet already, so there's really no need for everything to be about making babies anymore...

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(06-24-2014 01:13 AM)SoulRiser Wrote:  Oh, that reason. Well, I can understand it being abnormal for animals who rely entirely on instinct that tells them to reproduce... but we can decide stuff for ourselves that go beyond instinct. Not everything is about reproducing... clearly, humans have done a fine job of overpopulating this planet already, so there's really no need for everything to be about making babies anymore...
Oh definitely I couldn't agree more.

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Speaking as a gay man myself, there seems to be more acceptance overall as of late. I often wonder if the whole concept of "pride" isn't doing us a bit of disservice. I went to a parade in my city back in 07 just to see what is was like and I can't say I didn't feel a little bit of shame. There must be more awareness and acceptance but is this really the people we want representing us? A street littered with nothing but stereotypes, people in ridiculous attire shouting, practically a minstrel show of the gay community.

I want to be respected for my accomplishments in my education and career field. Not to have my image centred around what I do in a motel room with another consenting adult. It angers me as well how some people claim to support gay rights but just say so because it is the "trendy" thing to do. Yes I enjoy going to the gay bar much as I am sure straight men enjoy going to the strippers or the club. But that is only one small part of who I am and what I stand for.
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(06-24-2014 05:11 AM)Evan92 Wrote:  Speaking as a gay man myself, there seems to be more acceptance overall as of late. I often wonder if the whole concept of "pride" isn't doing us a bit of disservice. I went to a parade in my city back in 07 just to see what is was like and I can't say I didn't feel a little bit of shame. There must be more awareness and acceptance but is this really the people we want representing us? A street littered with nothing but stereotypes, people in ridiculous attire shouting, practically a minstrel show of the gay community.

I want to be respected for my accomplishments in my education and career field. Not to have my image centred around what I do in a motel room with another consenting adult. It angers me as well how some people claim to support gay rights but just say so because it is the "trendy" thing to do. Yes I enjoy going to the gay bar much as I am sure straight men enjoy going to the strippers or the club. But that is only one small part of who I am and what I stand for.
I've wondered for awhile why being gay is about being flamboyant and eccentric rather than just being a normal person who likes the same gender. Wouldn't it be more productive to have some gay people just march through the streets looking normal rather than have someone dressed as a walking rainbow skipping throughout the streets? Then people could just see that's what being gay is. It's just normal people who have an attraction to their own gender instead of those are the people who parade around wearing inappropriate costumes scaring any children who happen to see the endeavor.

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(06-24-2014 05:20 AM)Levi Wrote:  
(06-24-2014 05:11 AM)Evan92 Wrote:  Speaking as a gay man myself, there seems to be more acceptance overall as of late. I often wonder if the whole concept of "pride" isn't doing us a bit of disservice. I went to a parade in my city back in 07 just to see what is was like and I can't say I didn't feel a little bit of shame. There must be more awareness and acceptance but is this really the people we want representing us? A street littered with nothing but stereotypes, people in ridiculous attire shouting, practically a minstrel show of the gay community.

I want to be respected for my accomplishments in my education and career field. Not to have my image centred around what I do in a motel room with another consenting adult. It angers me as well how some people claim to support gay rights but just say so because it is the "trendy" thing to do. Yes I enjoy going to the gay bar much as I am sure straight men enjoy going to the strippers or the club. But that is only one small part of who I am and what I stand for.
I've wondered for awhile why being gay is about being flamboyant and eccentric rather than just being a normal person who likes the same gender. Wouldn't it be more productive to have some gay people just march through the streets looking normal rather than have someone dressed as a walking rainbow skipping throughout the streets? Then people could just see that's what being gay is. It's just normal people who have an attraction to their own gender instead of those are the people who parade around wearing inappropriate costumes scaring any children who happen to see the endeavor.

Thats just thing that needs to happen in order to be taken seriously. There are plenty of normal gay people they just aren't as vocal about it. Society should know not all of us are like Jack on will and grace. The gay community itself is hard to define as well, it stretches across all races and socioeconomic backgrounds.
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RE: Being Gay Shouldn't be Bad*

Being gay is neither good or bad, I fully accept it as a part of life, plus it doesn't hurt anyone so people shouldn't be tripping all over it. I am bisexual
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(06-24-2014 01:06 AM)Levi Wrote:  
(06-23-2014 11:53 PM)SoulRiser Wrote:  What the hell is 'normal' anyway?
Guess what I meant by that is that we can't have children with the same gender can we? Evolution designed us so we need a female and male to reproduce (meaning of life). So it's really no wonder people thinks it's strange to see two of the same gender together. As I said no discrimination.

There's some good responses on this RL thread:
http://www.revleft.com/vb/homosexuality-...l?t=177640

Here's a couple you should read:

Quote:The concept that reproduction is natural is a entirely human-oriented construction.There are many animals who do not reproduce in the usual manner in addition to some who have both sexes. The whole natural argument on their part is nothing but logical fallacies; this is revealed in by humanity being the only creature capable of making such a judgement; ergo it is impossible to truly know what is "natural" as the meaning as such variance.

Homosexuality occurs in all parts of the world in the vast majority, if not all, the species of animals (including humans). How is this not natural? Before you know it they are going to start talking about how having red hair is not natural. It occurs through the natural biological processes so it is natural.

These reproduction arguments always follow the same track yet they are strangely contradictory (what about the old people who can no longer reproduce, are they natural?) and ultimately lead to nothing and fail. Pseudo-theory not unlike those of yesteryear claiming various slurs about Black people.

Quote:Masturbation is unnatural because it can't lead to the creation of children.
Sex between sterile people is unnatural because it can't lead to the creation of children.
Sex with older women is unnatural because it can't lead to the creation of children.
Sex using condoms is unnatural because it can't lead to the creation of children.
Sex while using the pill is unnatural because it can't lead to the creation of children.
Sex during the infertile period of the menstrual cycle is unnatural because it can't lead to the creation of children.
Abstinence is unnatural because it can't lead to the creation of children.

And, finally,

Messing with what other people do or refrain to do in their beds is unnatural because it can't lead to the creation of children.

Really.

Some.

People.

No, really.
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(06-24-2014 07:08 AM)I Must Enter a Username Wrote:  
(06-24-2014 01:06 AM)Levi Wrote:  
(06-23-2014 11:53 PM)SoulRiser Wrote:  What the hell is 'normal' anyway?
Guess what I meant by that is that we can't have children with the same gender can we? Evolution designed us so we need a female and male to reproduce (meaning of life). So it's really no wonder people thinks it's strange to see two of the same gender together. As I said no discrimination.

There's some good responses on this RL thread:
http://www.revleft.com/vb/homosexuality-...l?t=177640

Here's a couple you should read:

Quote:The concept that reproduction is natural is a entirely human-oriented construction.There are many animals who do not reproduce in the usual manner in addition to some who have both sexes. The whole natural argument on their part is nothing but logical fallacies; this is revealed in by humanity being the only creature capable of making such a judgement; ergo it is impossible to truly know what is "natural" as the meaning as such variance.

Homosexuality occurs in all parts of the world in the vast majority, if not all, the species of animals (including humans). How is this not natural? Before you know it they are going to start talking about how having red hair is not natural. It occurs through the natural biological processes so it is natural.

These reproduction arguments always follow the same track yet they are strangely contradictory (what about the old people who can no longer reproduce, are they natural?) and ultimately lead to nothing and fail. Pseudo-theory not unlike those of yesteryear claiming various slurs about Black people.

Quote:Masturbation is unnatural because it can't lead to the creation of children.
Sex between sterile people is unnatural because it can't lead to the creation of children.
Sex with older women is unnatural because it can't lead to the creation of children.
Sex using condoms is unnatural because it can't lead to the creation of children.
Sex while using the pill is unnatural because it can't lead to the creation of children.
Sex during the infertile period of the menstrual cycle is unnatural because it can't lead to the creation of children.
Abstinence is unnatural because it can't lead to the creation of children.

And, finally,

Messing with what other people do or refrain to do in their beds is unnatural because it can't lead to the creation of children.

Really.

Some.

People.

No, really.
I think I'm done with this conversation now. The fact is we're not meant to be gay. I realize this and I agree with Cianna it's just a fact of life because genetics and all. Also I've misused words here and there I see this now :L

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(06-24-2014 07:17 AM)Levi Wrote:  
(06-24-2014 07:08 AM)I Must Enter a Username Wrote:  
(06-24-2014 01:06 AM)Levi Wrote:  
(06-23-2014 11:53 PM)SoulRiser Wrote:  What the hell is 'normal' anyway?
Guess what I meant by that is that we can't have children with the same gender can we? Evolution designed us so we need a female and male to reproduce (meaning of life). So it's really no wonder people thinks it's strange to see two of the same gender together. As I said no discrimination.

There's some good responses on this RL thread:
http://www.revleft.com/vb/homosexuality-...l?t=177640

Here's a couple you should read:

Quote:The concept that reproduction is natural is a entirely human-oriented construction.There are many animals who do not reproduce in the usual manner in addition to some who have both sexes. The whole natural argument on their part is nothing but logical fallacies; this is revealed in by humanity being the only creature capable of making such a judgement; ergo it is impossible to truly know what is "natural" as the meaning as such variance.

Homosexuality occurs in all parts of the world in the vast majority, if not all, the species of animals (including humans). How is this not natural? Before you know it they are going to start talking about how having red hair is not natural. It occurs through the natural biological processes so it is natural.

These reproduction arguments always follow the same track yet they are strangely contradictory (what about the old people who can no longer reproduce, are they natural?) and ultimately lead to nothing and fail. Pseudo-theory not unlike those of yesteryear claiming various slurs about Black people.

Quote:Masturbation is unnatural because it can't lead to the creation of children.
Sex between sterile people is unnatural because it can't lead to the creation of children.
Sex with older women is unnatural because it can't lead to the creation of children.
Sex using condoms is unnatural because it can't lead to the creation of children.
Sex while using the pill is unnatural because it can't lead to the creation of children.
Sex during the infertile period of the menstrual cycle is unnatural because it can't lead to the creation of children.
Abstinence is unnatural because it can't lead to the creation of children.

And, finally,

Messing with what other people do or refrain to do in their beds is unnatural because it can't lead to the creation of children.

Really.

Some.

People.

No, really.
I think I'm done with this conversation now. The fact is we're not meant to be gay. I realize this and I agree with Chanku it's just a fact of life because genetics and all. Also I've misused words here and there I see this now :L

"I realize this and I agree with Chanku it's just a fact of life because genetics and all."

I don't. The first quotation answers that nicely. That common mentality of "we are so weird and abnormal and not meant for this" needs to be trashed to its well-deserved death.
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(06-24-2014 08:17 AM)I Must Enter a Username Wrote:  
(06-24-2014 07:17 AM)Levi Wrote:  
(06-24-2014 07:08 AM)I Must Enter a Username Wrote:  
(06-24-2014 01:06 AM)Levi Wrote:  
(06-23-2014 11:53 PM)SoulRiser Wrote:  What the hell is 'normal' anyway?
Guess what I meant by that is that we can't have children with the same gender can we? Evolution designed us so we need a female and male to reproduce (meaning of life). So it's really no wonder people thinks it's strange to see two of the same gender together. As I said no discrimination.

There's some good responses on this RL thread:
http://www.revleft.com/vb/homosexuality-...l?t=177640

Here's a couple you should read:

Quote:The concept that reproduction is natural is a entirely human-oriented construction.There are many animals who do not reproduce in the usual manner in addition to some who have both sexes. The whole natural argument on their part is nothing but logical fallacies; this is revealed in by humanity being the only creature capable of making such a judgement; ergo it is impossible to truly know what is "natural" as the meaning as such variance.

Homosexuality occurs in all parts of the world in the vast majority, if not all, the species of animals (including humans). How is this not natural? Before you know it they are going to start talking about how having red hair is not natural. It occurs through the natural biological processes so it is natural.

These reproduction arguments always follow the same track yet they are strangely contradictory (what about the old people who can no longer reproduce, are they natural?) and ultimately lead to nothing and fail. Pseudo-theory not unlike those of yesteryear claiming various slurs about Black people.

Quote:Masturbation is unnatural because it can't lead to the creation of children.
Sex between sterile people is unnatural because it can't lead to the creation of children.
Sex with older women is unnatural because it can't lead to the creation of children.
Sex using condoms is unnatural because it can't lead to the creation of children.
Sex while using the pill is unnatural because it can't lead to the creation of children.
Sex during the infertile period of the menstrual cycle is unnatural because it can't lead to the creation of children.
Abstinence is unnatural because it can't lead to the creation of children.

And, finally,

Messing with what other people do or refrain to do in their beds is unnatural because it can't lead to the creation of children.

Really.

Some.

People.

No, really.
I think I'm done with this conversation now. The fact is we're not meant to be gay. I realize this and I agree with Chanku it's just a fact of life because genetics and all. Also I've misused words here and there I see this now :L

"I realize this and I agree with Chanku it's just a fact of life because genetics and all."

I don't. The first quotation answers that nicely. That common mentality of "we are so weird and abnormal and not meant for this" needs to be trashed to its well-deserved death.
Hate to speak on behalf of people, but I think Levi just means simply that being gay isn't bad, but he doesn't expect people to think it's entirely normal rather to just to accept it. You're seeming kinda argumentative.

Have your regrets, but always stay strong from yours truly, Illuzion.
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(06-24-2014 09:06 AM)KFC Nyan Cat Wrote:  The only reason the Bible is used as an excuse for hating gays is that it said homosexuals are bad, but it was obviously referring to homosexuals of the time, who also did every other sex sin.
The bible is as just about as credible as a fairy tale.

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(06-24-2014 09:13 AM)Levi Wrote:  
(06-24-2014 09:06 AM)KFC Nyan Cat Wrote:  The only reason the Bible is used as an excuse for hating gays is that it said homosexuals are bad, but it was obviously referring to homosexuals of the time, who also did every other sex sin.
The bible is as just about as credible as a fairy tale.

At least fairy tales are fun.

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Did somebody just pull the whole "It's wrong cause it's unnatural" argument?

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(06-24-2014 09:14 AM)W Kuts Wrote:  
(06-24-2014 09:13 AM)Levi Wrote:  
(06-24-2014 09:06 AM)KFC Nyan Cat Wrote:  The only reason the Bible is used as an excuse for hating gays is that it said homosexuals are bad, but it was obviously referring to homosexuals of the time, who also did every other sex sin.
The bible is as just about as credible as a fairy tale.

At least fairy tales are fun.

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Not when you think about them.

For example, the antagonists are all "evil." That's it. Just "evil." Not "grew up in a dog-eat-dog world, doesn't know any other way of surviving" or anything semi-logical. And they teach little kids that they don't need to understand the point of view of those they don't like, a violent death or exile is an acceptable way to deal with them.

Hello, traveler.

This is an ancient account I have not used in a long time. My views have changed much in the intervening months and years.

Nonetheless, I refuse to clean it up. Pretending that I've held my current views since the beginning of time is what we in the industry call a lie. Asking people to do so contributes to moralistic self-loathing. "See, those people have nothing damning! I do! I'm truly vile!"

Because you can never be a good person with a single blemish on the moral record, I thought that simply entertaining some thoughts made me irredeemable. Though I don't care for his writing style, William Faulkner presents a good counterexample. He went from being a typical Southern racist to supporting the civil rights movement. These days we'd yell at him for that, probably.

People are allowed to change their views.

Nevertheless, this period of my life has informed some of how I am today. In good ways and bad ways. To purge it would be to do a disservice to history. Perhaps it will not make anyone sympathetic, but it may help someone understand.

If, after reading all this, you still decide to use the post above as evidence that I am evil today, ask yourself if you have never disagreed with the moral code you now follow. In all likelihood you did, at some point. If some questions are verboten, and the answer is "how dare you ask that," don't expect your ideological opponents to ever change their minds.
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(06-24-2014 09:27 AM)brainiac3397 Wrote:  Did somebody just pull the whole "It's wrong cause it's unnatural" argument?
Just re-reading all my posts and I never outright said natural nor did I actually say it was wrong because it's certainly not. I have slight dyslexia so I might be wrong. I'm not quite sure if your talking to me either. Ah well I'm only human.

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(06-24-2014 09:03 AM)Illuzion Wrote:  
(06-24-2014 08:17 AM)I Must Enter a Username Wrote:  
(06-24-2014 07:17 AM)Levi Wrote:  
(06-24-2014 07:08 AM)I Must Enter a Username Wrote:  
(06-24-2014 01:06 AM)Levi Wrote:  Guess what I meant by that is that we can't have children with the same gender can we? Evolution designed us so we need a female and male to reproduce (meaning of life). So it's really no wonder people thinks it's strange to see two of the same gender together. As I said no discrimination.

There's some good responses on this RL thread:
http://www.revleft.com/vb/homosexuality-...l?t=177640

Here's a couple you should read:

Quote:The concept that reproduction is natural is a entirely human-oriented construction.There are many animals who do not reproduce in the usual manner in addition to some who have both sexes. The whole natural argument on their part is nothing but logical fallacies; this is revealed in by humanity being the only creature capable of making such a judgement; ergo it is impossible to truly know what is "natural" as the meaning as such variance.

Homosexuality occurs in all parts of the world in the vast majority, if not all, the species of animals (including humans). How is this not natural? Before you know it they are going to start talking about how having red hair is not natural. It occurs through the natural biological processes so it is natural.

These reproduction arguments always follow the same track yet they are strangely contradictory (what about the old people who can no longer reproduce, are they natural?) and ultimately lead to nothing and fail. Pseudo-theory not unlike those of yesteryear claiming various slurs about Black people.

Quote:Masturbation is unnatural because it can't lead to the creation of children.
Sex between sterile people is unnatural because it can't lead to the creation of children.
Sex with older women is unnatural because it can't lead to the creation of children.
Sex using condoms is unnatural because it can't lead to the creation of children.
Sex while using the pill is unnatural because it can't lead to the creation of children.
Sex during the infertile period of the menstrual cycle is unnatural because it can't lead to the creation of children.
Abstinence is unnatural because it can't lead to the creation of children.

And, finally,

Messing with what other people do or refrain to do in their beds is unnatural because it can't lead to the creation of children.

Really.

Some.

People.

No, really.
I think I'm done with this conversation now. The fact is we're not meant to be gay. I realize this and I agree with Chanku it's just a fact of life because genetics and all. Also I've misused words here and there I see this now :L

"I realize this and I agree with Chanku it's just a fact of life because genetics and all."

I don't. The first quotation answers that nicely. That common mentality of "we are so weird and abnormal and not meant for this" needs to be trashed to its well-deserved death.
Hate to speak on behalf of people, but I think Levi just means simply that being gay isn't bad, but he doesn't expect people to think it's entirely normal rather to just to accept it. You're seeming kinda argumentative.

To clarify, I'm not being argumentative, I'm being cautious for Levi to not accept automatic weirdo status (at whatever extent that might be) for his orientation despite his expectations for this site.
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(06-24-2014 09:48 AM)I Must Enter a Username Wrote:  
(06-24-2014 09:03 AM)Illuzion Wrote:  
(06-24-2014 08:17 AM)I Must Enter a Username Wrote:  
(06-24-2014 07:17 AM)Levi Wrote:  
(06-24-2014 07:08 AM)I Must Enter a Username Wrote:  There's some good responses on this RL thread:
http://www.revleft.com/vb/homosexuality-...l?t=177640

Here's a couple you should read:
I think I'm done with this conversation now. The fact is we're not meant to be gay. I realize this and I agree with Chanku it's just a fact of life because genetics and all. Also I've misused words here and there I see this now :L

"I realize this and I agree with Chanku it's just a fact of life because genetics and all."

I don't. The first quotation answers that nicely. That common mentality of "we are so weird and abnormal and not meant for this" needs to be trashed to its well-deserved death.
Hate to speak on behalf of people, but I think Levi just means simply that being gay isn't bad, but he doesn't expect people to think it's entirely normal rather to just to accept it. You're seeming kinda argumentative.

To clarify, I'm not being argumentative, I'm being cautious for Levi to not accept automatic weirdo status (at whatever extent that might be) for his orientation despite his expectations for this site.
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(06-24-2014 09:13 AM)Levi Wrote:  
(06-24-2014 09:06 AM)KFC Nyan Cat Wrote:  The only reason the Bible is used as an excuse for hating gays is that it said homosexuals are bad, but it was obviously referring to homosexuals of the time, who also did every other sex sin.
The bible is as just about as credible as a fairy tale.

Christianity =/= Right-Wing Christianity

Also, I'm christian, but that's just a good argument against your parents.

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(06-25-2014 08:23 AM)KFC Nyan Cat Wrote:  
(06-24-2014 09:13 AM)Levi Wrote:  
(06-24-2014 09:06 AM)KFC Nyan Cat Wrote:  The only reason the Bible is used as an excuse for hating gays is that it said homosexuals are bad, but it was obviously referring to homosexuals of the time, who also did every other sex sin.
The bible is as just about as credible as a fairy tale.

Christianity =/= Right-Wing Christianity

Also, I'm christian, but that's just a good argument against your parents.

Why do you think that "Christianity =/= Right-Wing Christianity"?
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(06-25-2014 09:22 AM)I Must Enter a Username Wrote:  
(06-25-2014 08:23 AM)KFC Nyan Cat Wrote:  
(06-24-2014 09:13 AM)Levi Wrote:  
(06-24-2014 09:06 AM)KFC Nyan Cat Wrote:  The only reason the Bible is used as an excuse for hating gays is that it said homosexuals are bad, but it was obviously referring to homosexuals of the time, who also did every other sex sin.
The bible is as just about as credible as a fairy tale.

Christianity =/= Right-Wing Christianity

Also, I'm christian, but that's just a good argument against your parents.

Why do you think that "Christianity =/= Right-Wing Christianity"?

Because it doesn't, you just hear about the right-wing on the news a bunch because of their..............antics.

I SUCK at explanation, so here's a website that demonstrates it:

https://www.gaychristian.net/

and another one:

http://www.thechristianleft.org/tell-it.html

It's basically the idea that the Bible means radically different things from what any church will tell you to believe and that's for you to decipher.

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(06-24-2014 09:29 AM)no Wrote:  
(06-24-2014 09:14 AM)W Kuts Wrote:  
(06-24-2014 09:13 AM)Levi Wrote:  
(06-24-2014 09:06 AM)KFC Nyan Cat Wrote:  The only reason the Bible is used as an excuse for hating gays is that it said homosexuals are bad, but it was obviously referring to homosexuals of the time, who also did every other sex sin.
The bible is as just about as credible as a fairy tale.

At least fairy tales are fun.

Wink

Not when you think about them.

For example, the antagonists are all "evil." That's it. Just "evil." Not "grew up in a dog-eat-dog world, doesn't know any other way of surviving" or anything semi-logical. And they teach little kids that they don't need to understand the point of view of those they don't like, a violent death or exile is an acceptable way to deal with them.

Sounds like the real world to me!

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Gay people are genetic defects.
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(06-26-2014 02:12 AM)DavidGlass Wrote:  Gay people are genetic defects.

Well I guess I'm defective then.
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