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That wasn't obvious?

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I love marginal revolution. It is interesting how many creative geniuses didn't thrive in the classroom setting, like Einstein.

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The mindset of the modern teacher is not what it once was. I am not bashing every teacher some are interested in their respective fields but others are lacking in that drive. You get a union teacher who's passed tenure and then it becomes bitch, bitch, bitch, about everything. I support unions generally and I'm not union busting by any means but the teachers unions have too much power and political sway. The biggest gap in logic is how teachers compare themselves to blue collar workers. I know of very few other white collar professions that have unions. If an accountant has to prepare numbers before a meeting do they get paid extra for that? What about preparing at home the night before a big conference?

You have a system that rewards apathy among its members, just don't rock the boat and you'll get your fat pension at the end. You have people that go into teaching in their mid 20s and are burnt out by 30. The ones that do not care have every word of that union agreement memorized so they know exactly how to do as little as possible. Show up and shuffle papers around, complain about how tough competency evaluations and how the province wants you to re certify by taking refresher courses.
With these aspects in mind of course your not going to get people who are open and creative. The whole system is designed just to hold students like cattle.
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The best geniuses in the world like Albert Einstein often struggled in school, not because they were stupid, but because they were too bright.

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This was quite obvious. It's just cold-hard fact: school kills creativity with rigid conformity and strict rules.

Nothing new.

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School often wants kids to shut-up, conform, and not think for themselves. This strongly correlates with the Prussian education system. If a student questions why they do something they are immediately told to listen without hesitation. This leads kids to becoming mindless drones, and it is seen in our social lives as a result. Facebook, twitter, Instagram, etc. Many products are being sold that appeal to conformism people. AKA Apple and how it can't be customized.

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