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To everyone who joined these forums at some point, and got discouraged by the negativity and left after a while (or even got literally scared off): I'm sorry.
I wasn't good enough at encouraging people to be kinder, and removing people who refuse to be kind. Encouraging people is hard, and removing people creates conflict, and I hate conflict... so that's why I wasn't better at it.
I was a very, very sensitive teen. The atmosphere of this forum as it is now, if it had existed in 1996, would probably have upset me far more than it would have helped.
I can handle quite a lot of negativity and even abuse now, but that isn't the point. I want to help people. I want to help the people who need it the most, and I want to help people like the 1996 version of me.
I'm still figuring out the best way to do that, but as it is now, these forums are doing more harm than good, and I can't keep running them.
Thank you to the few people who have tried to understand my point of view so far. I really, really appreciate you guys. You are beautiful people.
Everyone else: If after everything I've said so far, you still don't understand my motivations, I think it's unlikely that you will. We're just too different. Maybe someday in the future it might make sense, but until then, there's no point in arguing about it. I don't have the time or the energy for arguing anymore. I will focus my time and energy on people who support me, and those who need help.
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I don't see the point of child labor laws. If the kids wanna work, let them work.
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Dear Tumblrites:Despite your wrongly self-diagnosedPTSD, no line ofscientific evidencesuggests people can be triggered over theinternet. Triggering works through thesenses(i.e. smell, taste, touch, vision, hearing.) but it goes throughreal time; if you're not experiencing it in real life as it'sACTUALLY HAPPENINGin yourACTUALlife, youCANNOTbe triggered. The only exception to this is if you have aseizure, but then again, that's triggered byepilepsy(i.e. rapidly-changing flashing lights)NOT PTSD. Remembering a bad incident is NOT the same thing as having aflashback. When you remember, youthink; when youflashback,youfeel.
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Max Stirnir Wrote:"In the time of spirits thoughts grew till they overtopped my head, whose offspring they yet were; they hovered about me and convulsed me like fever-phantasies -- an awful power. The thoughts had become corporeal on their own account, were ghosts, e. g. God, Emperor, Pope, Fatherland, etc. If I destroy their corporeity, then I take them back into mine, and say: "I alone am corporeal." And now I take the world as what it is to me, as mine, as my property; I refer all to myself."The Ego and Its Own, pg. 15
Charles Manson Wrote:“Look down at me and you see a fool;
look up at me and you see a god;
look straight at me and you see yourself”
HeartofShadows Wrote:"Life is nothing more than a druggie trying to get their quick fix of happiness while dealing with the harsh withdrawal of reality"
Osip Mandelstam Wrote:"I divide all of world literature into authorized and unauthorized works. The former are all trash; the latter--stolen air. I want to spit in the face of every writer who first obtains permission and then writes."The Fourth Prose, 1930.
Lukas Foss Wrote:That is why the analogy of stealing does not work. With a thief, we want to know how much money he stole, and from whom. With the artist it is not how much he took and from whom, but what he did with it.
Sociopath Wrote:I don't see the point of child labor laws. If the kids wanna work, let them work.
Same here.
Back in the day kids worked to help support their families and didn't have to waste all their time in public schools and some bitch named kelly something got butthurt about some kids being sick in a factory that were working to help make ends meet for their families in harsh conditions so instead of getting them so she bitched until they made it mandatory for kids to attend public schools.
TRIGGER WARNING: THIS TRIGGER WARNING CONTAINS TRIGGER WARNINGS!
Dear Tumblrites:Despite your wrongly self-diagnosedPTSD, no line ofscientific evidencesuggests people can be triggered over theinternet. Triggering works through thesenses(i.e. smell, taste, touch, vision, hearing.) but it goes throughreal time; if you're not experiencing it in real life as it'sACTUALLY HAPPENINGin yourACTUALlife, youCANNOTbe triggered. The only exception to this is if you have aseizure, but then again, that's triggered byepilepsy(i.e. rapidly-changing flashing lights)NOT PTSD. Remembering a bad incident is NOT the same thing as having aflashback. When you remember, youthink; when youflashback,youfeel.
#HashTagsAreForIdiots
Max Stirnir Wrote:"In the time of spirits thoughts grew till they overtopped my head, whose offspring they yet were; they hovered about me and convulsed me like fever-phantasies -- an awful power. The thoughts had become corporeal on their own account, were ghosts, e. g. God, Emperor, Pope, Fatherland, etc. If I destroy their corporeity, then I take them back into mine, and say: "I alone am corporeal." And now I take the world as what it is to me, as mine, as my property; I refer all to myself."The Ego and Its Own, pg. 15
Charles Manson Wrote:“Look down at me and you see a fool;
look up at me and you see a god;
look straight at me and you see yourself”
HeartofShadows Wrote:"Life is nothing more than a druggie trying to get their quick fix of happiness while dealing with the harsh withdrawal of reality"
Osip Mandelstam Wrote:"I divide all of world literature into authorized and unauthorized works. The former are all trash; the latter--stolen air. I want to spit in the face of every writer who first obtains permission and then writes."The Fourth Prose, 1930.
Lukas Foss Wrote:That is why the analogy of stealing does not work. With a thief, we want to know how much money he stole, and from whom. With the artist it is not how much he took and from whom, but what he did with it.
Sociopath Wrote:I don't see the point of child labor laws. If the kids wanna work, let them work.
Same here.
Back in the day kids worked to help support their families and didn't have to waste all their time in public schools and some bitch named kelly something got butthurt about some kids being sick in a factory that were working to help make ends meet for their families in harsh conditions so instead of getting them so she bitched until they made it mandatory for kids to attend public schools.
...you do realize what child labor was like right?
"I heard a joke once. Man goes to doctor says "I'm terribly depressed". Doctor says "I know just what you should do. Poliacci the clown is in town, go see him, you'll be cheered right up." The man bursts into tears. "But Doctor, I am Poliacci." Funny joke. Roll on snare drum. Everyone laugh."
Sociopath Wrote:I don't see the point of child labor laws. If the kids wanna work, let them work.
Same here.
Back in the day kids worked to help support their families and didn't have to waste all their time in public schools and some bitch named kelly something got butthurt about some kids being sick in a factory that were working to help make ends meet for their families in harsh conditions so instead of getting them so she bitched until they made it mandatory for kids to attend public schools.
...you do realize what child labor was like right?
I'm not talking about then, I mean NOW.
Hidden stuff:
TRIGGER WARNING: THIS TRIGGER WARNING CONTAINS TRIGGER WARNINGS!
Dear Tumblrites:Despite your wrongly self-diagnosedPTSD, no line ofscientific evidencesuggests people can be triggered over theinternet. Triggering works through thesenses(i.e. smell, taste, touch, vision, hearing.) but it goes throughreal time; if you're not experiencing it in real life as it'sACTUALLY HAPPENINGin yourACTUALlife, youCANNOTbe triggered. The only exception to this is if you have aseizure, but then again, that's triggered byepilepsy(i.e. rapidly-changing flashing lights)NOT PTSD. Remembering a bad incident is NOT the same thing as having aflashback. When you remember, youthink; when youflashback,youfeel.
#HashTagsAreForIdiots
Max Stirnir Wrote:"In the time of spirits thoughts grew till they overtopped my head, whose offspring they yet were; they hovered about me and convulsed me like fever-phantasies -- an awful power. The thoughts had become corporeal on their own account, were ghosts, e. g. God, Emperor, Pope, Fatherland, etc. If I destroy their corporeity, then I take them back into mine, and say: "I alone am corporeal." And now I take the world as what it is to me, as mine, as my property; I refer all to myself."The Ego and Its Own, pg. 15
Charles Manson Wrote:“Look down at me and you see a fool;
look up at me and you see a god;
look straight at me and you see yourself”
HeartofShadows Wrote:"Life is nothing more than a druggie trying to get their quick fix of happiness while dealing with the harsh withdrawal of reality"
Osip Mandelstam Wrote:"I divide all of world literature into authorized and unauthorized works. The former are all trash; the latter--stolen air. I want to spit in the face of every writer who first obtains permission and then writes."The Fourth Prose, 1930.
Lukas Foss Wrote:That is why the analogy of stealing does not work. With a thief, we want to know how much money he stole, and from whom. With the artist it is not how much he took and from whom, but what he did with it.
Sociopath Wrote:I don't see the point of child labor laws. If the kids wanna work, let them work.
Same here.
Back in the day kids worked to help support their families and didn't have to waste all their time in public schools and some bitch named kelly something got butthurt about some kids being sick in a factory that were working to help make ends meet for their families in harsh conditions so instead of getting them so she bitched until they made it mandatory for kids to attend public schools.
...you do realize what child labor was like right?
Yeah I understood what it was like but instead of new safety conditions we have mandatory school attendance, restricted working hours(although some places ignore them anyway) and a whole bunch of other bullshit I can't be assed to bring up.
Well the conditions children were working in were SHIT plus they get payed shit too simply because they were children. It would be better for them to go to school and get an education than work in a sweatshop all their lives. It may seem ageist but it really was for the best back then.
You could actually get a good education and if you got your diploma then you were pretty much set for life. A diploma back then was the equivalent of a bachelors, or even a masters now.
What really pisses me off is when we apply our child labor standards to third world countries. They are in the same position as we were in the teens and 20's except those children can't get an education and really wouldn't gain much of an advantage if they had one. the money they get is what they use to eat.
Thought Criminal Wrote:What really pisses me off is when we apply our child labor standards to third world countries. They are in the same position as we were in the teens and 20's except those children can't get an education and really wouldn't gain much of an advantage if they had one. the money they get is what they use to eat.
You have a point, what's a damn tribal african gonna do with an education? They might as well wipe their asses with it. Yet people always rant "DEY NEEDZ MONEY 4 BOOKZ!!!!11!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111BGBJHKFDD"
No, they "NEEDZ MONEY" for food, dammit.
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In my opinion, a movement for youth to get jobs easier cannot come before a general youth rights movement. One word; exploitation. All we'll see is shitty jobs at shitty pay, basically sweatshops again to a lesser extent.
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(11-27-2011 10:52 AM)Efs Wrote: Our Army is more professional than Amerika.
Except ours isn't allowed to have guns
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Thought Criminal Wrote:Well the conditions children were working in were SHIT plus they get payed shit too simply because they were children. It would be better for them to go to school and get an education than work in a sweatshop all their lives. It may seem ageist but it really was for the best back then.
You could actually get a good education and if you got your diploma then you were pretty much set for life. A diploma back then was the equivalent of a bachelors, or even a masters now.
What really pisses me off is when we apply our child labor standards to third world countries. They are in the same position as we were in the teens and 20's except those children can't get an education and really wouldn't gain much of an advantage if they had one. the money they get is what they use to eat.
Yeah you're right thought its a shame big business went into all this bullshit to weaken the diplomas worth now so they can have a steady desperate hive(Diploma is barely worth wiping your ass with now and a degree is not much better).
Sociopath Wrote:I don't see the point of child labor laws. If the kids wanna work, let them work.
Not until they're given suffrage and the rights of full citizens. If child labor laws are repealed just one damn minute before a full youth rights victory on the political front, youth will just end up being oppressed and exploited by business owners and capitalists instead of government schools. Believe me, if the corporate powers that be heard this conversation, they'd imagine a whole new pool of workers with no political voice to defend themselves with, and they'd get dollar signs in their eyes and start drooling.
I think Buenaventura Durruti is a pretty cool guy. eh kills fascists and doesnt afraid of ruins. The quickest way to kill a revolution is to wait for it.
Eh, child labour and sweatshops weren't killed off by the government, or activists, they were killed off by capitalism. As a society progresses, they simply become economically counter-productive.
John Tuttle Wrote:Eh, child labour and sweatshops weren't killed off by the government, or activists, they were killed off by capitalism. As a society progresses, they simply become economically counter-productive.
Are you kidding me? Child labor was today's equivalent of using illegal immigrants. A fuckload of disposable labor for dirt cheap. If those laws weren't ever passed we would still have kids in factories.
John Tuttle Wrote:Eh, child labour and sweatshops weren't killed off by the government, or activists, they were killed off by capitalism. As a society progresses, they simply become economically counter-productive.
Child labor still goes on today.
"I heard a joke once. Man goes to doctor says "I'm terribly depressed". Doctor says "I know just what you should do. Poliacci the clown is in town, go see him, you'll be cheered right up." The man bursts into tears. "But Doctor, I am Poliacci." Funny joke. Roll on snare drum. Everyone laugh."
John Tuttle Wrote:Eh, child labour and sweatshops weren't killed off by the government, or activists, they were killed off by capitalism. As a society progresses, they simply become economically counter-productive.
Dude, come on. That's fucking retarded and blatantly untrue. You're smarter than this.
I think Buenaventura Durruti is a pretty cool guy. eh kills fascists and doesnt afraid of ruins. The quickest way to kill a revolution is to wait for it.
Corporations are always worried about loosing their power and profit. Can't expect them to act any other way. After all just about everything they do is in their own interests.
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