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As a Catholic, I will say this.
The state of being homosexual is not itself a sin, but a temptation, unless you engage in any homosexual acts. Any kind of premarital sex, and watching porn are equally as bad as any homosexual act.

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Porn = homosexual act?

Wut?

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What if you watch gay porn does that make it twice the sin?
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Who knew sinning could be so enjoyable
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What does trans porn count as then? 1.5?
Or is trans sex 3.5?

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"unless you engage in any homosexual acts"

You must feel so lucky that I don't have much (or any) opportunities in my area to piss you off with this HOMSEXUAL ACTS sin, right?
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I don't believe in sin but mistakes, the only real ''sin'' is egocentrism. Homosexuality should not be looked down upon, it hurts no one, it's love for the same gender which I find is a beautiful thing.
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(05-29-2014 02:46 PM)Cianna200 Wrote:  I don't believe in sin but mistakes, the only real ''sin'' is egocentrism. Homosexuality should not be looked down upon, it hurts no one, it's love for the same gender which I find is a beautiful thing.

FAGGOT LOL JK

But seriously, the Bible references homosexual rape, divorce, temple prostitutes, sex slaves, and sex with angels in the passages referenced as "homosexuality being sin." Not homosexuality.

Also, isn't it odd that many homophobic christians are porn-defenders?

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The bible also says eating pork is a sin, using the toilet without covering it is a sin and if women don't go through the pain of childbirth they are going to hell. This makes me think there are adsurdities in the bible. I understand rape, divorce ( unless the partner was abusive) being wrong but.......Eh I dunno. Jesus never spoke of homosexuality being a sin though, so a false prophet who found homosexuality disgusting and immoral must have wrote it in.

( thou shall not lie with a man as one lies with a woman, it is an abomination.)
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(05-30-2014 08:31 AM)Cianna200 Wrote:  The bible also says eating pork is a sin, using the toilet without covering it is a sin and if women don't go through the pain of childbirth they are going to hell. This makes me think there are adsurdities in the bible. I understand rape, divorce ( unless the partner was abusive) being wrong but.......Eh I dunno. Jesus never spoke of homosexuality being a sin though, so a false prophet who found homosexuality disgusting and immoral must have wrote it in.

( thou shall not lie with a man as one lies with a woman, it is an abomination.)

Not a false prophet, just misinterpreted (it's about Pagan Temple Prostitutes,) that's what many churches teach.

I've never read the entire Bible (that's a work in progress, only read the Matthews and finishing up Mark) but ever hear of the New Covenant?

Using the toilet, they say you need to dig a hole to cover your poo/pee. This applies only to Biblical times (before toilets) and nowadays Sewers have us covered.

You don't have to have kids. While the Bible never mentions that you don't have to have kids, it says you don't have to marry, and since premarital sex is a sin, you give up childbirth (although I haven't read into it enough (1 Corinthians 7:25-35,) it kinda sounds like holy reasons only.

Sometimes I think most people who write the Bible off as "hateful" either focused in on a few things or just listened to people like Westboro Baptist Church and other hyper-conservatives. And the Bible has been edited *coughcough*kingjames*coughcough*

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I find the bible to be a interesting book but it is not without it errors. I do agree with a lot of what the bible says, it's mainly the old testament that I'm worried about. The old testament was refuted by Jesus and shouldn't be in the Christian bible. I will provide where the bible says about salvation for women is only through motherhood: Women are saved through childbearing (1. Timothy. 2:15)
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(05-30-2014 10:17 AM)Cianna200 Wrote:  I find the bible to be a interesting book but it is not without it errors. I do agree with a lot of what the bible says, it's mainly the old testament that I'm worried about. The old testament was refuted by Jesus and shouldn't be in the Christian bible. I will provide where the bible says about salvation for women is only through motherhood: Women are saved through childbearing (1. Timothy. 2:15)

The reason they still include the Old Testament is because Christians believe that although the rules don't apply, it still happened.

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Humanity, this may sound callous. But please, please, shut up about sin.

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Hello, traveler.

This is an ancient account I have not used in a long time. My views have changed much in the intervening months and years.

Nonetheless, I refuse to clean it up. Pretending that I've held my current views since the beginning of time is what we in the industry call a lie. Asking people to do so contributes to moralistic self-loathing. "See, those people have nothing damning! I do! I'm truly vile!"

Because you can never be a good person with a single blemish on the moral record, I thought that simply entertaining some thoughts made me irredeemable. Though I don't care for his writing style, William Faulkner presents a good counterexample. He went from being a typical Southern racist to supporting the civil rights movement. These days we'd yell at him for that, probably.

People are allowed to change their views.

Nevertheless, this period of my life has informed some of how I am today. In good ways and bad ways. To purge it would be to do a disservice to history. Perhaps it will not make anyone sympathetic, but it may help someone understand.

If, after reading all this, you still decide to use the post above as evidence that I am evil today, ask yourself if you have never disagreed with the moral code you now follow. In all likelihood you did, at some point. If some questions are verboten, and the answer is "how dare you ask that," don't expect your ideological opponents to ever change their minds.
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Homosexuality is not the sin. Sodomy is the sin. And straight couples can be guilty of that very sin through oral and anal sex.
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(05-29-2014 02:46 PM)Cianna200 Wrote:  I don't believe in sin but mistakes, the only real ''sin'' is egocentrism.

I'm sinning up a storm over here!

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In Greek the word sin's true meaning is ''hamartia'' or ''missing the mark'', in other words, sin is another word for mistake or a flaw that blocks spiritual growth.
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(06-04-2014 08:07 AM)Cianna200 Wrote:  In Greek the word sin's true meaning is ''hamartia'' or ''missing the mark'', in other words, sin is another word for mistake or a flaw that blocks spiritual growth.
Indeed. Nobody is perfect so I cannot judge. That is for the Lord to do and for the Lord alone.
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(06-04-2014 08:34 AM)WalterScottDempsey Wrote:  
(06-04-2014 08:07 AM)Cianna200 Wrote:  In Greek the word sin's true meaning is ''hamartia'' or ''missing the mark'', in other words, sin is another word for mistake or a flaw that blocks spiritual growth.
Indeed. Nobody is perfect so I cannot judge. That is for the Lord to do and for the Lord alone.

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(06-04-2014 08:34 AM)WalterScottDempsey Wrote:  
(06-04-2014 08:07 AM)Cianna200 Wrote:  In Greek the word sin's true meaning is ''hamartia'' or ''missing the mark'', in other words, sin is another word for mistake or a flaw that blocks spiritual growth.
Indeed. Nobody is perfect so I cannot judge. That is for the Lord to do and for the Lord alone.

What if Ernst Bloch is the Lord?
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