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School Ecosystems
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School Ecosystems

I was wondering what the ecosystems and systems are like at your school, and more importantly, why did they develop. My school's ecosystem is:

1. I am the best student.
2. Any other student must bow down to me and do my homework.
3. Any student who refuses will be exiled to That-Hallway-Where-Everyone-Goes-To-Make-Out for all eternity.

Just kidding, There's no ecosystem at my school, because it's just me there. But, I will offer some things my friends tell me about their high school:

-There is a popularity system based on who you hang out with, but you can easily pull the strings by hanging out with certain people. The douchebags are the most popular just because they can easily inject themselves into any situation they want.

- You can both have a clique and a group of friends. Actually, if you're in a clique and you're friends with someone in another clique, everyone in those two clique are considered a group of friends. Bullying is frowned upon because these cliques intersect so much that everyone is considered everyone else's friend.

So, I hope we can get to the bottom of these things.

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At the school I went to there were only about 150 students total, so everybody knew everybody. There were cliques and specific groups people would form, but they were all interlaced so nobody had an issue with anybody; you could freely talk and hang out with anybody you wanted without worrying about what clique they're in or what have you. It was pretty nice, I met a lot of people that way.
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RE: School Ecosystems

(04-02-2014 05:12 PM)SubCulture Wrote:  Just kidding, There's no ecosystem at my school, because it's just me there.

Lol. You actually got me with that. Razz

That's what happens when you initiate a "frame" in people's minds... like the ecosystem of a school... it brings up a bunch of imagery that doesn't necessarily apply with online schooling, unschooling, or other alternatives to traditional factory-model schools.

However, I'd still argue that your school has an ecosystem (at least within your classes)... and likewise, the "school" of School Survival has a sort of ecosystem, as well... and hopefully the learning experiences people have here can rival school-as-usual.

(And if not, let's figure out how to make that happen.)

(04-02-2014 05:12 PM)SubCulture Wrote:  -There is a popularity system based on who you hang out with, but you can easily pull the strings by hanging out with certain people. The douchebags are the most popular just because they can easily inject themselves into any situation they want.

- You can both have a clique and a group of friends. Actually, if you're in a clique and you're friends with someone in another clique, everyone in those two clique are considered a group of friends. Bullying is frowned upon because these cliques intersect so much that everyone is considered everyone else's friend.

There's at least one thread that delves into this sort of thing in some depth... I can't find the one I'm thinking of now, but it might be useful to look around in past threads for some examples.

(04-02-2014 05:12 PM)SubCulture Wrote:  So, I hope we can get to the bottom of these things.

Absolutely. This post raises questions that overlap with topics both in traditional teacher-preparation curricula (like parts of the courses in Coursera's Foundations of Teaching and Learning certificate program, and in the conversations in the New School Creation cMOOC (see the G+ community archives for examples.

For example, check out this clip from High Tech High (the school run by Larry Rosenstock, who ran the New School Creation course.)



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How much does that contrast with you you'd describe your school?

(HTH is actually planning another cMOOC designed around getting feedback from actual students... something to look forward to... and do ourselves, anyway. Biggrin)

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My school's ecosystem is akin to that of a prison's. There are four distinct tiers of the social food chain, each corresponding to a grade, and each is divided into unclear designations that make it ambiguously okay to pass yourself off for the higher grades or push you down into the obscurity of the lower ones. It's an elaborate game cleverly used as a distraction from the hostility of the pr...er, school environment.

I don't play that game, and from what I can tell, most people can respect that.

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At my school it's athletes, gamers, yada yada yada, your typical 2014 high school cliques.

I wonder what ways we can help break those barriers though....

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RE: School Ecosystems

(04-02-2014 05:37 PM)Sharpie Wrote:  At the school I went to there were only about 150 students total, so everybody knew everybody. There were cliques and specific groups people would form, but they were all interlaced so nobody had an issue with anybody; you could freely talk and hang out with anybody you wanted without worrying about what clique they're in or what have you. It was pretty nice, I met a lot of people that way.

My HS had 200-250 students(ranging from 6th-12th). There were divisions among people, and were interlaced to an extent, but maybe not as much as Sharpie experienced.

Still...I personally got along with everyone. I was a favorite among the teachers and students, but not the popular sort of favorite. Just the "respected and reputable" sort. But there were others who were "rejected" by certain cliques. They generally ended up friends with me since I didn't give a damn about cliques and am generally receptive to people(odd stuff happen when you're receptive. I made a friend with some gambling addict on the bus to work last week. He just sat next to me and started to talking to me and I interacted with him and suddenly he was offering me a scratch ticket thing he had won $20 bucks with. I didn't take it but it was pretty random)

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My school ecosystem:
1. You cannot like something popular unless you like everything popular
2. Banned words and phrases: Ubuntu, Linux, Operating System, Programmer, Smartphones suck, Computers are awesome, Server
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I can't recall much from my last school, but that's probably because I wasn't terribly perceptive back then. I mostly kept to my small circle of friends. There was talk about cliques at a study hall meet with the guidance counselor, but I didn't really notice any aside from a couple 'jocks' and girls who liked boy bands a lot.

FWIW, my desire to be an outside observer of cliques in high school (potentially 'saving' friends from being stuck inside them) is counteracted by my thankfulness for not having to go there in the first place.
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RE: School Ecosystems

At my school, we're sort of free. Nobody really makes fun of anybody. There are the popular kids, but few of them judge others. Most of the popular kids are popular because they are nice and funny, not for other reasons like having brand-name clothes and such. I hang out with pretty much everybody,(Except popular kids and jocks). We all sort of know each other and hang out with who we hang out with, and that I am grateful for.

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RE: School Ecosystems

There are 4 tiers of social class in my school- the 'rich' douchebags, the girl douchebags, the people who aren't necessarily cool but aren't hated (me), and the exiles. The exiles are usually the kids with, no offense, problems.

So more like three levels.
Douchebag/Cool
Average People/Not Cool (me 50/50)
Exile/No One Likes You (me 50/50)

If you are not a douchebag, you are treated as an underling.

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