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To everyone who joined these forums at some point, and got discouraged by the negativity and left after a while (or even got literally scared off): I'm sorry.
I wasn't good enough at encouraging people to be kinder, and removing people who refuse to be kind. Encouraging people is hard, and removing people creates conflict, and I hate conflict... so that's why I wasn't better at it.
I was a very, very sensitive teen. The atmosphere of this forum as it is now, if it had existed in 1996, would probably have upset me far more than it would have helped.
I can handle quite a lot of negativity and even abuse now, but that isn't the point. I want to help people. I want to help the people who need it the most, and I want to help people like the 1996 version of me.
I'm still figuring out the best way to do that, but as it is now, these forums are doing more harm than good, and I can't keep running them.
Thank you to the few people who have tried to understand my point of view so far. I really, really appreciate you guys. You are beautiful people.
Everyone else: If after everything I've said so far, you still don't understand my motivations, I think it's unlikely that you will. We're just too different. Maybe someday in the future it might make sense, but until then, there's no point in arguing about it. I don't have the time or the energy for arguing anymore. I will focus my time and energy on people who support me, and those who need help.
-SoulRiser
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Besides becoming a worker drone who the boss get's pissed off at because he's sick of telling you what to do. "Oh, I'm sorry sir! I'm did my assigned task right and on time, do I get bonus points!? My.Graduation.Speech.
RE: Has High School taught you any real world stuff?
It's taught me how easy it is to turn friends against each other and how to torture people mentally and emotionally. Do those count?
Hello, traveler.
This is an ancient account I have not used in a long time. My views have changed much in the intervening months and years.
Nonetheless, I refuse to clean it up. Pretending that I've held my current views since the beginning of time is what we in the industry call a lie. Asking people to do so contributes to moralistic self-loathing. "See, those people have nothing damning! I do! I'm truly vile!"
Because you can never be a good person with a single blemish on the moral record, I thought that simply entertaining some thoughts made me irredeemable. Though I don't care for his writing style, William Faulkner presents a good counterexample. He went from being a typical Southern racist to supporting the civil rights movement. These days we'd yell at him for that, probably.
People are allowed to change their views.
Nevertheless, this period of my life has informed some of how I am today. In good ways and bad ways. To purge it would be to do a disservice to history. Perhaps it will not make anyone sympathetic, but it may help someone understand.
If, after reading all this, you still decide to use the post above as evidence that I am evil today, ask yourself if you have never disagreed with the moral code you now follow. In all likelihood you did, at some point. If some questions are verboten, and the answer is "how dare you ask that," don't expect your ideological opponents to ever change their minds.
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RE: Has High School taught you any real world stuff?
No, not at all.
I don't know how to do basic real life things. I don't know how to write a check. I don't know how to start a bank account. I don't know how to get a job. I don't know how to shop for anything. I don't know how to make budget. I don't know how to make my own medical appointments. I don't know how to make important phone calls.
I don't know how to do most of the basic things i need to know how to do just to survive as an adult.
I've learned more in that months I've been out of school than my entire 11 year school career.
RE: Has High School taught you any real world stuff?
(03-26-2014 03:02 AM)Night Wrote: No, not at all.
I don't know how to do basic real life things. I don't know how to write a check. I don't know how to start a bank account. I don't know how to get a job. I don't know how to shop for anything. I don't know how to make budget. I don't know how to make my own medical appointments. I don't know how to make important phone calls.
I don't know how to do most of the basic things i need to know how to do just to survive as an adult.
I've learned more in that months I've been out of school than my entire 11 year school career.
I learned to write checks from my father, to start a bank account by talking with a bank rep. I still have yet to get a job myself(Yes, I'm working 2 jobs but I didn't exactly apply for them. It was more so done by referral). I'm a god at shopping(but I hate malls). I make a budget so well, I always have money(even when I "dont"). I never made my own medical appointment(didn't have a license so it's not like I could get there anyway) but I guess it involves phones. I sucked at making phone calls till I got my job at the company I'm working at. In fact, I hated phone calls final. Now I'm not so very resistant or hesitant.
So yep. I agree. School don't teach shit for real life.
They sure taught him the write way. I guess we're all rapped up with anti-school to here our mail biology teacher talk about jeans. Deer teacher, we don't want you to dye but your class is two boring. You'd think it'd be plane and simple. This is just our secret bass.
RE: Has High School taught you any real world stuff?
(03-26-2014 05:32 AM)stephen926 Wrote: Sorry about the (very bad) spelling error! Fixed.
To be pedantic: Spelling errors are different from grammar errors. Grammar errors are incorrect puncuation and incorrect use of a word, (which was the case).
Spelling errors: The deere wlked awaey from me.
Grammar errors: the dear walking away from me
I may seem evil at times, though I just want to make a point. I like to create real discussion.
(This post was last modified: 03-26-2014 05:40 AM by TreyLina.)
RE: Has High School taught you any real world stuff?
(03-26-2014 05:38 AM)TreyLina Wrote:
(03-26-2014 05:32 AM)stephen926 Wrote: Sorry about the (very bad) spelling error! Fixed.
To be pedantic: Spelling errors are different from grammar errors. Grammar errors are incorrect puncuation and incorrect use of a word, (which was the case).
RE: Has High School taught you any real world stuff?
(03-26-2014 04:41 AM)stephen926 Wrote: They taught me how to read and write. They also taught me new words and when/how to use them.
High school.
And no, high school hasn't taught me jack shit about the "real world". We're already in the real world anyway. High school is pretty much shadowing us from it, in my eyes at least.
RE: Has High School taught you any real world stuff?
(03-26-2014 09:28 AM)Hansgrohe Wrote:
(03-26-2014 04:41 AM)stephen926 Wrote: They taught me how to read and write. They also taught me new words and when/how to use them.
High school.
this made me lol
(03-26-2014 09:28 AM)Hansgrohe Wrote: And no, high school hasn't taught me jack shit about the "real world". We're already in the real world anyway. High school is pretty much shadowing us from it, in my eyes at least.
I didn't even go to high school. (Hope Stephen doesn't blow a fuse when he reads this! And I'm around his age, too!) My only regrets are that I don't get out terribly often to see people (not many opportunities to, though, and it's partly out of my control) and I don't have a chance to spread our message from the inside, so to speak. Would have been interesting to do that and keep a 'survival journal'. Fortunately enough, I plan to do both when I eventually reach college (University of Maine will probably accept me, with a GED and possibly some form of credit study.)
Public education has, and is still mostly fulfilling, a purpose to teach the basic essentials to function in society. So it's no surprise stephen says he learned how to read, how to write, and a basic vocabulary. Never mind that it's still not strictly necessary to learn it in public school (although it's the only part of education I think really should be mandatory, there should be alternate ways to go about it), and that I was reading at the age of 4, before I started attending school at around 8 or so.
(This post was last modified: 03-26-2014 10:17 AM by Trar.)
RE: Has High School taught you any real world stuff?
Yes and no. I use little bits of everything now and again on a very basic level. All classes on a broad spectrum increased my overall intelligence in a shotgun pattern of effectiveness so to speak. I have never once had to read something I didn't want to and then write a paper about symbolism for my boss. However I have had to apply such lessons as resume building. I have never once had to find a slope intercept for anyone. However I was able to find a class (Applied Personal Mathmatics) that taught math that you actually do encounter every day. Such as how to balance a checkbook, how to calculate bank interest, how to tip, and how to budget. Shit that I will USE. But here is the thing, when everyone sat down with a counselor and they laid out options, applied personal math was never offered or advertised even as an option. You already had to specificly know about it, and ask to be put in it. And the councilors would always try to dissuade you. Told me that the whole class was middle school math and that I should take Calc instead. I looked her straight in the face and said I do not care what you think, you will put me in that class. Fucking seriously? That shit should be mandatory.
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RE: Has High School taught you any real world stuff?
I think that from the age of maybe 12 onwards you learn a bit of important stuff, but not much. I think in the early years of school you learn a lot. Therefore, I think the early years should stay the same(elementary/primary school) but later years (middle and high/secondary school) should be tailored more to individual needs
The problem is a scientist will use much more of what they have learned in high school than say, a session musician. But they both will have done stuff they will never use. Therefore, I think in middle school onwards, you should get to choose what subjects you do completely
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RE: Has High School taught you any real world stuff?
While I did learn quite abit in high school, I maintain that I could probably learn an equal amount being left alone in the cereal section of a 7/11.
I don't think public schooling itself facilitated much learning for me, but I will say that you find more content in a history textbook than on the back of a milk carton.
RE: Has High School taught you any real world stuff?
(03-26-2014 03:02 AM)Night Wrote: No, not at all.
I don't know how to do basic real life things. I don't know how to write a check. I don't know how to start a bank account. I don't know how to get a job. I don't know how to shop for anything. I don't know how to make budget. I don't know how to make my own medical appointments. I don't know how to make important phone calls.
I don't know how to do most of the basic things i need to know how to do just to survive as an adult.
I've learned more in that months I've been out of school than my entire 11 year school career.
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