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To everyone who joined these forums at some point, and got discouraged by the negativity and left after a while (or even got literally scared off): I'm sorry.
I wasn't good enough at encouraging people to be kinder, and removing people who refuse to be kind. Encouraging people is hard, and removing people creates conflict, and I hate conflict... so that's why I wasn't better at it.
I was a very, very sensitive teen. The atmosphere of this forum as it is now, if it had existed in 1996, would probably have upset me far more than it would have helped.
I can handle quite a lot of negativity and even abuse now, but that isn't the point. I want to help people. I want to help the people who need it the most, and I want to help people like the 1996 version of me.
I'm still figuring out the best way to do that, but as it is now, these forums are doing more harm than good, and I can't keep running them.
Thank you to the few people who have tried to understand my point of view so far. I really, really appreciate you guys. You are beautiful people.
Everyone else: If after everything I've said so far, you still don't understand my motivations, I think it's unlikely that you will. We're just too different. Maybe someday in the future it might make sense, but until then, there's no point in arguing about it. I don't have the time or the energy for arguing anymore. I will focus my time and energy on people who support me, and those who need help.
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Dear Tumblrites:Despite your wrongly self-diagnosedPTSD, no line ofscientific evidencesuggests people can be triggered over theinternet. Triggering works through thesenses(i.e. smell, taste, touch, vision, hearing.) but it goes throughreal time; if you're not experiencing it in real life as it'sACTUALLY HAPPENINGin yourACTUALlife, youCANNOTbe triggered. The only exception to this is if you have aseizure, but then again, that's triggered byepilepsy(i.e. rapidly-changing flashing lights)NOT PTSD. Remembering a bad incident is NOT the same thing as having aflashback. When you remember, youthink; when youflashback,youfeel.
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Max Stirnir Wrote:"In the time of spirits thoughts grew till they overtopped my head, whose offspring they yet were; they hovered about me and convulsed me like fever-phantasies -- an awful power. The thoughts had become corporeal on their own account, were ghosts, e. g. God, Emperor, Pope, Fatherland, etc. If I destroy their corporeity, then I take them back into mine, and say: "I alone am corporeal." And now I take the world as what it is to me, as mine, as my property; I refer all to myself."The Ego and Its Own, pg. 15
Charles Manson Wrote:“Look down at me and you see a fool;
look up at me and you see a god;
look straight at me and you see yourself”
HeartofShadows Wrote:"Life is nothing more than a druggie trying to get their quick fix of happiness while dealing with the harsh withdrawal of reality"
Osip Mandelstam Wrote:"I divide all of world literature into authorized and unauthorized works. The former are all trash; the latter--stolen air. I want to spit in the face of every writer who first obtains permission and then writes."The Fourth Prose, 1930.
Lukas Foss Wrote:That is why the analogy of stealing does not work. With a thief, we want to know how much money he stole, and from whom. With the artist it is not how much he took and from whom, but what he did with it.
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09-02-2010 12:12 PM
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KittyKatBlack Wrote:I thought scene kids and _/(*)dEpReSsEd AnD tOrTuReD sOuLs, LoOkInG fOr LoVe In ThIs CrUeL aNd HaTeFuL wOrLd(*)\_ were two different scenes?
Em0 and Scene used to mean the same thing, but nowadays the term "Scene" is used to describe someone who tries to fit in with the current popular crowd (and fails horribly)
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TRIGGER WARNING: THIS TRIGGER WARNING CONTAINS TRIGGER WARNINGS!
Dear Tumblrites:Despite your wrongly self-diagnosedPTSD, no line ofscientific evidencesuggests people can be triggered over theinternet. Triggering works through thesenses(i.e. smell, taste, touch, vision, hearing.) but it goes throughreal time; if you're not experiencing it in real life as it'sACTUALLY HAPPENINGin yourACTUALlife, youCANNOTbe triggered. The only exception to this is if you have aseizure, but then again, that's triggered byepilepsy(i.e. rapidly-changing flashing lights)NOT PTSD. Remembering a bad incident is NOT the same thing as having aflashback. When you remember, youthink; when youflashback,youfeel.
#HashTagsAreForIdiots
Max Stirnir Wrote:"In the time of spirits thoughts grew till they overtopped my head, whose offspring they yet were; they hovered about me and convulsed me like fever-phantasies -- an awful power. The thoughts had become corporeal on their own account, were ghosts, e. g. God, Emperor, Pope, Fatherland, etc. If I destroy their corporeity, then I take them back into mine, and say: "I alone am corporeal." And now I take the world as what it is to me, as mine, as my property; I refer all to myself."The Ego and Its Own, pg. 15
Charles Manson Wrote:“Look down at me and you see a fool;
look up at me and you see a god;
look straight at me and you see yourself”
HeartofShadows Wrote:"Life is nothing more than a druggie trying to get their quick fix of happiness while dealing with the harsh withdrawal of reality"
Osip Mandelstam Wrote:"I divide all of world literature into authorized and unauthorized works. The former are all trash; the latter--stolen air. I want to spit in the face of every writer who first obtains permission and then writes."The Fourth Prose, 1930.
Lukas Foss Wrote:That is why the analogy of stealing does not work. With a thief, we want to know how much money he stole, and from whom. With the artist it is not how much he took and from whom, but what he did with it.
KittyKatBlack Wrote:I thought scene kids and _/(*)dEpReSsEd AnD tOrTuReD sOuLs, LoOkInG fOr LoVe In ThIs CrUeL aNd HaTeFuL wOrLd(*)\_ were two different scenes?
Em0 and Scene used to mean the same thing, but nowadays the term "Scene" is used to describe someone who tries to fit in with the current popular crowd (and fails horribly)
Nope. True em0 is a lot more dark, and true scene is the more happy-go-lucky, rainbow type.
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09-02-2010 01:09 PM
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KittyKatBlack Wrote:So why all this animosity towards scene kids by _/(*)dEpReSsEd AnD tOrTuReD sOuLs, LoOkInG fOr LoVe In ThIs CrUeL aNd HaTeFuL wOrLd(*)\_?
People are afraid of those different from them. And in time, they come to hate those they fear. Its a common Human Instinct, unfortunately.
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TRIGGER WARNING: THIS TRIGGER WARNING CONTAINS TRIGGER WARNINGS!
Dear Tumblrites:Despite your wrongly self-diagnosedPTSD, no line ofscientific evidencesuggests people can be triggered over theinternet. Triggering works through thesenses(i.e. smell, taste, touch, vision, hearing.) but it goes throughreal time; if you're not experiencing it in real life as it'sACTUALLY HAPPENINGin yourACTUALlife, youCANNOTbe triggered. The only exception to this is if you have aseizure, but then again, that's triggered byepilepsy(i.e. rapidly-changing flashing lights)NOT PTSD. Remembering a bad incident is NOT the same thing as having aflashback. When you remember, youthink; when youflashback,youfeel.
#HashTagsAreForIdiots
Max Stirnir Wrote:"In the time of spirits thoughts grew till they overtopped my head, whose offspring they yet were; they hovered about me and convulsed me like fever-phantasies -- an awful power. The thoughts had become corporeal on their own account, were ghosts, e. g. God, Emperor, Pope, Fatherland, etc. If I destroy their corporeity, then I take them back into mine, and say: "I alone am corporeal." And now I take the world as what it is to me, as mine, as my property; I refer all to myself."The Ego and Its Own, pg. 15
Charles Manson Wrote:“Look down at me and you see a fool;
look up at me and you see a god;
look straight at me and you see yourself”
HeartofShadows Wrote:"Life is nothing more than a druggie trying to get their quick fix of happiness while dealing with the harsh withdrawal of reality"
Osip Mandelstam Wrote:"I divide all of world literature into authorized and unauthorized works. The former are all trash; the latter--stolen air. I want to spit in the face of every writer who first obtains permission and then writes."The Fourth Prose, 1930.
Lukas Foss Wrote:That is why the analogy of stealing does not work. With a thief, we want to know how much money he stole, and from whom. With the artist it is not how much he took and from whom, but what he did with it.
KittyKatBlack Wrote:So why all this animosity towards scene kids by _/(*)dEpReSsEd AnD tOrTuReD sOuLs, LoOkInG fOr LoVe In ThIs CrUeL aNd HaTeFuL wOrLd(*)\_?
Really, I don't know. I've never seen it firsthand. (When you live in the ghetto, most people that actually aren't ghetto bond together, despite way of life. It's beautiful... *sniffle*) Anyway, I'll guess because scene is a branch away from em0, and I don't think any group likes the branches they birth. Since they're always seen as rape of the original group's culture.
But, like I said, my school doesn't know social class, somehow. It's only ghetto vs. everyone else.
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KittyKatBlack Wrote:So why all this animosity towards scene kids by em0s?
Well I'm not em0 anymore, I'm a metal head/goth whatever. Em0 was middle school. My hatred towards scene kids stems from it being a rip off of my culture. They take my style of dress, throw in some neon colors and don't slit their wrists because it hurts. It sucks to see what makes you feel rebellious and in control get bastardized and turned into some mainstream shit fuck while all the assholes that bullied you for cutting yourself are now wearing the same goddamn clothing you do, and everybody is calling you a fucking scene kid even though your not.
That's the main reason I'm not fucking em0 anymore aside from the fact that I have better ways to manage being sad then cutting myself. It's kinda like the mainstreaming of punk, though not on such a large scale.
09-02-2010 02:25 PM
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Quote:My hatred towards scene kids stems from it being a rip off of my culture.
Nobody owns a culture. Subcultures become mainstream and get bastardized. It just happens. No one has the right to stop an off-shoot. Look at goth and em0. They wouldn't be here if it weren't for punk. Em0 is looked at as the bastardization of punk by many, but you don't seem upset by the fact that you took part in it.
Quote:They take my style of dress, throw in some neon colors and don't slit their wrists because it hurts.
So? Is that seriously part of the reason you don't like them? Because they wear pretty colors and don't engage in self-destructive behavior?
Quote:It sucks to see what makes you feel rebellious and in control get bastardized
You don't need clothes to be or feel rebellious or in control. If you do, that's a good sign that you're not.
Quote:all the assholes that bullied you for cutting yourself are now wearing the same goddamn clothing you do
Again, so? Unless they start to cut, I don't see why this is a problem.
Quote:everybody is calling you a fucking scene kid even though your not.
This I can understand. No matter how long I spent telling my family that goth wasn't a religion, they wouldn't believe me. Fucking stupid people.
Someone needs to turn that filter off. It's not funny or clever anymore. It's tired. Lay it to rest, already.
Quote:My hatred towards scene kids stems from it being a rip off of my culture.
Nobody owns a culture. Subcultures become mainstream and get bastardized. It just happens. No one has the right to stop an off-shoot. Look at goth and em0. They wouldn't be here if it weren't for punk. Em0 is looked at as the bastardization of punk by many, but you don't seem upset by the fact that you took part in it.
Yeah, I see what your saying. I agree with it too. I know nobody "owns" a culture, but when it becomes such a part of your life that you are willing to self destruct it pisses alot of people off.
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Quote:They take my style of dress, throw in some neon colors and don't slit their wrists because it hurts.
So? Is that seriously part of the reason you don't like them? Because they wear pretty colors and don't engage in self-destructive behavior?
It's not that it's just that they have the audacity to take what identifies you and fuck with it because they don't like pain. It kind of ties in with the first reason.
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Quote:It sucks to see what makes you feel rebellious and in control get bastardized
You don't need clothes to be or feel rebellious or in control. If you do, that's a good sign that you're not.
Yeah, I know. Please realize that I'm not that fucking naive. It's just looking back on my younger self I realize that that is part of the reason that this pissed me off so much
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Quote:all the assholes that bullied you for cutting yourself are now wearing the same goddamn clothing you do
Again, so? Unless they start to cut, I don't see why this is a problem.
Well it's not just a cutting issue. My clothing is what identifies me as "yeah I cut myself" and these assholes make fun of not only my cutting but the way I dress, the way I talk, how I wear my hair. ANYTHING they can think of to make me feel like shit and then here they go and decide it's fucking cool
Whilst i like emo and goth clothing, it's too expensive to wear it all the time. I dont know where to reccomend, because you're an amerifag you could always try looking at alternative clothing websites. I have some favourites, but they're all UK based, so it would make the postage more expensive than the clothing.
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