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So here are my thoughts on Chanku's abuse of power in the irc.
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So here are my thoughts on Chanku's abuse of power in the irc.

My first and most recent evidence:
Quote:23:04:20] Chanku [~Chanku@Rizon-E91987D9.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has set mode +bb *!*@Rizon-7BB0864B.hsd1.in.comcast.net *!*@F4ACC5BC.A2B9633A.B2C41F2D.IP

The first host is mine, while the second is the host of a Duelix who couldn't even talk while he was in there, which served no real purpose in my opinion since it let him stay in the chat and watch us talk until he gets bored and leaves.

This is from around 11pm Eastern time, I had just gotten back on the irc after watching one of my shows. I had not been given a voice in a respectable amount of time, by the person that usually notices someone joining, Chanku, or any other operators that were talking.

Here is some evidence from the day I first got banned:
Quote:[00:37:20] Ban listing for #SchoolSurvival: *!*@Rizon-7BB0864B.hsd1.in.comcast.net (set by Chanku!~Chanku@Rizon-E91987D9.hsd1.tn.comcast.net on Fri Feb 28 20:43:16 2014)

Notice any certain similarities between that banned host and the one from today? Both times I have been banned were by Chanku, and both times were a host ban. So the only way around it would have been for me to change my host like Duelix keeps doing.

Some random bits of evidence:
Quote:[20:29:53] You have been kicked from #SchoolSurvival by xcritter [~Chanku@Rizon-E91987D9.hsd1.tn.comcast.net]: xcriteria

This kick was due to me changing my nickname to xcriteria for a short amount of time, in a time when the chat was just screwing around and having fun changing names. Even Chanku changed his name to "xcritter" right before he kicked me.

Quote:[20:29:41] Chanku [~Chanku@Rizon-E91987D9.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] is now known as xcritter

Quote:[23:04:40] Chanku [~Chanku@Rizon-E91987D9.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has set mode +b *!*@Rizon-3A8F5511.lightspeed.miamfl.sbcglobal.net

[23:05:02] RealPotato [cgiirc@Rizon-3A8F5511.lightspeed.miamfl.sbcglobal.net] has been kicked from #SchoolSurvival by Chanku [~Chanku@Rizon-E91987D9.hsd1.tn.comcast.net]: Don't test me foo! TASTE THE BANHAMMER!

[23:05:13] Chanku [~Chanku@Rizon-E91987D9.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has set mode -b *!*@Rizon-3A8F5511.lightspeed.miamfl.sbcglobal.net

Quote:[20:42:01] PussyEater [~Pussy@Rizon-7BB0864B.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has joined #SchoolSurvival

[20:42:02] <Zatch> Hello PussyEater

[20:42:10] <+lollipopgirl> Duelix?

[20:42:10] <PussyEater> Hey

[20:42:28] <PussyEater> Who's Duelix?

[20:42:36] <+Gwedin> Ich bin Duelix.

[20:42:40] Gwedin [cgiirc@Rizon-99F46BA.telstraclear.net] is now known as Duelix

[20:42:58] <+Duelix> Bow down to your Fuhrer, me!

[20:43:00] <brainiac3397> Nein! NEIN NEIN NEIN!

[20:43:06] <+Duelix> JA!

[20:43:14] Chanku [~Chanku@Rizon-E91987D9.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has set mode +b *!*@Rizon-7BB0864B.hsd1.in.comcast.net

[20:43:30] <brainiac3397> banned who?

[20:43:32] <@HeilKaiba8921> B?

[20:43:40] <+lollipopgirl> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MLry6Cn_D4

[20:43:40] <+Duelix> wat

[20:43:49] <+Duelix> chanku wat u doin

[20:43:49] PussyEater [~Pussy@Rizon-7BB0864B.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has been kicked from #SchoolSurvival by Chanku [~Chanku@Rizon-E91987D9.hsd1.tn.comcast.net]: Serriously? Become mature then return troll. Say hello to the Hammer of Kicking and Banning

Now, I do occasionally join the channel through an app on my phone with a particularly vulgar name, to some people at least...this one was my most vulgar by far, and I did not tell everyone about it. I also do not make a big thing about it, and was in no way trolling the channel under this name.

Quote:[20:30:16] Gwedin [cgiirc@Rizon-99F46BA.telstraclear.net] is now known as xcriteria

[20:30:20] <+xcriteria> Nah brah.

[20:30:22] Chanku [~Chanku@Rizon-E91987D9.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has set mode +o HeilKaiba8921

[20:30:32] <@HeilKaiba8921> o.0

[20:30:34] <+Hansgrohe> I don't think xcriteria would ever say "brah"

[20:30:37] <+Hansgrohe> Or use pink, lol

[20:30:39] <@MichaelMerging> u know hes been using that handle since '94

[20:30:41] <+xcriteria> Let's all be xcritera!

[20:30:44] xcriteria [cgiirc@Rizon-99F46BA.telstraclear.net] has been kicked from #SchoolSurvival by Chanku [~Chanku@Rizon-E91987D9.hsd1.tn.comcast.net]: Only Xcrit is xcriteria

[20:30:46] <@HeilKaiba8921> It's purple on my screen

[20:30:56] <+Hansgrohe> O rly?

[20:31:00] xcriteria [cgiirc@Rizon-99F46BA.telstraclear.net] has joined #SchoolSurvival

[20:31:00] <Zatch> Hello xcriteria

[20:31:02] <+Hansgrohe> That's okay i guess

[20:31:08] xcriteria [cgiirc@Rizon-99F46BA.telstraclear.net] is now known as Gwedin

This evidence is from a time in chat when everyone was wondering where xcriteria was, and at the same time was just having fun. Nobody kept the nickname for long, and I did not get kicked when I changed my nickname to xcriteria, so why would Gwedin be the only one to get kicked?

Quote:19:35:56] <HeilKaiba8921> Hey, try doing the syntax for unbanning someone on me, because apparently +b means you were channel banned

[19:36:08] <Chanku> Um. I dunno the syntax

[19:45:15] <Chanku> I can't figure out how

[19:45:39] <HeilKaiba8921> It's /mode #SchoolSurvival -b HeilKaiba8921!~Who@Rizon-7BB0864B.hsd1.in.comcast.net

[19:46:06] <Chanku> there

[19:46:52] <HeilKaiba8921> it still didn't let me in

[19:46:59] <HeilKaiba8921> Gonna try the web chat

[19:49:16] <HeilKaiba8921> It said the nickname was already in use...am I still in the channel?

[19:50:45] <Chanku> no you aren;y

[19:50:55] <Chanku> although it's used in the server

[19:51:23] <HeilKaiba8921> maybe ghosting?

[19:51:46] <Chanku> Well if you are logged on via client, and keep the client open then you are still logged in

[19:51:54] <Chanku> You have to log out of the client first then open the web chat

[19:54:51] <Kaiba> I closed my client and the webchat still says I'm banned

[19:54:57] You have changed your nickname to Guest14732

[19:55:00] <Guest14732> I think we're gonna need to get Soul on this

[19:55:14] <Chanku> Yup

That is from the first time I got banned. Obviously we figured it out, mostly from the help of some kind citizen that hangs out in the rizon help channel. That person had to go into the channel and tell xcriteria what to do to unban me.
______________________________________________________________________

So, in the end, I think Chanku has gone power hungry and should be removed from his operator privileges.





A slightly off-topic bit of information follows below:
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So Chanku has setup his bot, Zatch, to be able to give operator status to those that are in the list as soon as they join the channel. This is good since we can't always have an operator in the chat and sitting there waiting for another operator to come in so they can leave. This arguement is not about this bot at all, it is actually about being removed from the operator list without being asked, in any way, to defend myself.

I posted one picture about why /r/fiftyfifty is a fun subreddit to visit, while it was indeed NSFW/L (Not safe for work or life), it was also my first real offense in the chat of posting something that wasn't particularly smart to do. During the time I had posted it, I was not an operator because I did not feel it was necessary to be given operator status right upon logging in since there was nothing going on in chat, and SoulRiser was there if anything did happen.

Here is the conversation about removing me from the list of operators:

Quote:[19:12:05] <+HeilKaiba8921> Why do I often visit /r/fiftyfifty? WHY?

[19:13:41] <@Chanku> I don't really use Reddit, I have an account. I just don't use it....

[19:14:11] <+HeilKaiba8921> This is why you should use it more often... http://i.imgur.com/0n72mYN.png

[19:14:26] <+HeilKaiba8921> And then have a look at this for the other reason

[19:14:27] <+HeilKaiba8921> http://i.imgur.com/lkt7YuC.jpg

[19:14:31] <@Chanku> Dude wtf

[19:14:37] <+HeilKaiba8921> Right?

[19:14:41] <@Chanku> No

[19:14:43] <+HeilKaiba8921> Welcome to /r/fiftyfifty

[19:14:47] <@Chanku> -_-

[19:14:51] <@xcriteria> Umm... what is that? (I haven't clicked.)

[19:14:51] <+HeilKaiba8921> The second link is completely SFW

[19:15:00] <@Chanku> DON'T click the first one.

[19:15:04] <+HeilKaiba8921> It's the reason you visit /r/fiftyfifty in public

[19:15:13] <@xcriteria> Don't post messed up links in here. :<

[19:15:17] <+HeilKaiba8921> (hemorhoid infested asshole)

[19:15:24] <@xcriteria> OMG. Why?

[19:15:35] <@Chanku> Ugh

[19:15:51] <@Chanku> I've lost my appatie, and I was having steak tonight

[19:16:02] <@xcriteria> On the topic of rules... that definely breaks them.

[19:16:52] <@Chanku> Hm....should we punish Kaiba?

[19:20:33] <@xcriteria> That's like Duelix behavior.

[19:20:46] <@Chanku> punishing or the link?

[19:20:51] <@xcriteria> The link.

[19:20:54] <@Chanku> ah okay

[19:21:03] <@xcriteria> I mean Duelix on his worst behavior.

[19:21:30] <@Chanku> Should we kick him or ban him for a short period of time?

[19:21:48] <@xcriteria> Maybe just take him off the op list.

[19:22:06] <@Chanku> okay

[19:22:12] <@Chanku> I'll work on that right away

[19:22:16] <@xcriteria> I don't think specific punishments like banning necessarily change behvaior.

[19:22:44] <@xcriteria> It's better to figure out why people do things, and maybe help them learn why not to do horrible things.

[19:22:47] <@xcriteria> Obviously in some cases bans are required.

[19:25:26] <@Chanku> I'm editing the code now

[19:25:46] <@Chanku> Although all it requires is a minor change in of a line of the code

[19:25:58] <@Chanku> Which is also the first time I used the ||(or)) statement

[19:30:27] <@Neue> There, back.

[19:30:48] <@Chanku> Alright so I edited out his name in the lineup

[19:30:51] <@MichaelMerging> so fresh and so clean clean

[19:31:20] <@Neue> The lineup?

[19:31:45] <@Neue> So, Kaiba is no longer an OP, I take it?

[19:32:03] <@Chanku> correct

[19:32:10] <@Chanku> I've just changed Zatch to reflect it

[19:32:14] <@Neue> Okay.

[19:32:37] <@Chanku> And the changes are live

So, while I should have exercised restraint and not posted the link, I feel like it was wrong to not even ask me about my opinions on what sort of punishment should be done.

I am also not really bothered about losing operator status, but I would like, in the future, that people not get a rather strict punishment for screwing up one time.

If the president were to give his wife a black eye while they were golfing because the club slid out of his hand, would they immediately lock him up in Guantanamo bay for the rest of his life?

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So here are my thoughts on Chanku's abuse of power in the irc.

(03-03-2014 03:15 PM)Heil_Kaiba8921 Wrote:  My first and most recent evidence:
Quote:23:04:20] Chanku [~Chanku@Rizon-E91987D9.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has set mode +bb *!*@Rizon-7BB0864B.hsd1.in.comcast.net *!*@F4ACC5BC.A2B9633A.B2C41F2D.IP

The first host is mine, while the second is the host of a Duelix who couldn't even talk while he was in there, which served no real purpose in my opinion since it let him stay in the chat and watch us talk until he gets bored and leaves.
First the ban was accidental and I quickly removed it, my IRC client tends to bug out at times
Quote:This is from around 11pm Eastern time, I had just gotten back on the irc after watching one of my shows. I had not been given a voice in a respectable amount of time, by the person that usually notices someone joining, Chanku, or any other operators that were talking.
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I was AFK and due to that I can not be held responsible for the things others ops do, or do not, do.
Quote:Here is some evidence from the day I first got banned: [quote][00:37:20] Ban listing for #SchoolSurvival: *!*@Rizon-7BB0864B.hsd1.in.comcast.net (set by Chanku!~Chanku@Rizon-E91987D9.hsd1.tn.comcast.net on Fri Feb 28 20:43:16 2014)

Notice any certain similarities between that banned host and the one from today? Both times I have been banned were by Chanku, and both times were a host ban. So the only way around it would have been for me to change my host like Duelix keeps doing.
Again it was a mistake.
Quote:Some random bits of evidence:
Quote:[20:29:53] You have been kicked from #SchoolSurvival by xcritter [~Chanku@Rizon-E91987D9.hsd1.tn.comcast.net]: xcriteria

This kick was due to me changing my nickname to xcriteria for a short amount of time, in a time when the chat was just screwing around and having fun changing names. Even Chanku changed his name to "xcritter" right before he kicked me.

Quote:[20:29:41] Chanku [~Chanku@Rizon-E91987D9.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] is now known as xcritter
I just did that because I wasn't sure when xcrit was going to log on.
Quote:
Quote:[23:04:40] Chanku [~Chanku@Rizon-E91987D9.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has set mode +b *!*@Rizon-3A8F5511.lightspeed.miamfl.sbcglobal.net

[23:05:02] RealPotato [cgiirc@Rizon-3A8F5511.lightspeed.miamfl.sbcglobal.net] has been kicked from #SchoolSurvival by Chanku [~Chanku@Rizon-E91987D9.hsd1.tn.comcast.net]: Don't test me foo! TASTE THE BANHAMMER!

[23:05:13] Chanku [~Chanku@Rizon-E91987D9.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has set mode -b *!*@Rizon-3A8F5511.lightspeed.miamfl.sbcglobal.net
He dared me to ban him, in fact I was pretty sure I contacted you, also I was reprimanded and lost op for a while.
Quote:
Quote:[20:42:01] PussyEater [~Pussy@Rizon-7BB0864B.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has joined #SchoolSurvival

[20:42:02] <Zatch> Hello PussyEater

[20:42:10] <+lollipopgirl> Duelix?

[20:42:10] <PussyEater> Hey

[20:42:28] <PussyEater> Who's Duelix?

[20:42:36] <+Gwedin> Ich bin Duelix.

[20:42:40] Gwedin [cgiirc@Rizon-99F46BA.telstraclear.net] is now known as Duelix

[20:42:58] <+Duelix> Bow down to your Fuhrer, me!

[20:43:00] <brainiac3397> Nein! NEIN NEIN NEIN!

[20:43:06] <+Duelix> JA!

[20:43:14] Chanku [~Chanku@Rizon-E91987D9.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has set mode +b *!*@Rizon-7BB0864B.hsd1.in.comcast.net

[20:43:30] <brainiac3397> banned who?

[20:43:32] <@HeilKaiba8921> B?

[20:43:40] <+lollipopgirl> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MLry6Cn_D4

[20:43:40] <+Duelix> wat

[20:43:49] <+Duelix> chanku wat u doin

[20:43:49] PussyEater [~Pussy@Rizon-7BB0864B.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has been kicked from #SchoolSurvival by Chanku [~Chanku@Rizon-E91987D9.hsd1.tn.comcast.net]: Serriously? Become mature then return troll. Say hello to the Hammer of Kicking and Banning

Now, I do occasionally join the channel through an app on my phone with a particularly vulgar name, to some people at least...this one was my most vulgar by far, and I did not tell everyone about it. I also do not make a big thing about it, and was in no way trolling the channel under this name.
It was inappropriate
Quote:
Quote:[20:30:16] Gwedin [cgiirc@Rizon-99F46BA.telstraclear.net] is now known as xcriteria

[20:30:20] <+xcriteria> Nah brah.

[20:30:22] Chanku [~Chanku@Rizon-E91987D9.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has set mode +o HeilKaiba8921

[20:30:32] <@HeilKaiba8921> o.0

[20:30:34] <+Hansgrohe> I don't think xcriteria would ever say "brah"

[20:30:37] <+Hansgrohe> Or use pink, lol

[20:30:39] <@MichaelMerging> u know hes been using that handle since '94

[20:30:41] <+xcriteria> Let's all be xcritera!

[20:30:44] xcriteria [cgiirc@Rizon-99F46BA.telstraclear.net] has been kicked from #SchoolSurvival by Chanku [~Chanku@Rizon-E91987D9.hsd1.tn.comcast.net]: Only Xcrit is xcriteria

[20:30:46] <@HeilKaiba8921> It's purple on my screen

[20:30:56] <+Hansgrohe> O rly?

[20:31:00] xcriteria [cgiirc@Rizon-99F46BA.telstraclear.net] has joined #SchoolSurvival

[20:31:00] <Zatch> Hello xcriteria

[20:31:02] <+Hansgrohe> That's okay i guess

[20:31:08] xcriteria [cgiirc@Rizon-99F46BA.telstraclear.net] is now known as Gwedin

This evidence is from a time in chat when everyone was wondering where xcriteria was, and at the same time was just having fun. Nobody kept the nickname for long, and I did not get kicked when I changed my nickname to xcriteria, so why would Gwedin be the only one to get kicked?
I do not remember why I kicked but I think it was for the same reason above, either that or I had gotten in a really pissy mood and didn't feel like joking around.
Quote:
Quote:19:35:56] <HeilKaiba8921> Hey, try doing the syntax for unbanning someone on me, because apparently +b means you were channel banned

[19:36:08] <Chanku> Um. I dunno the syntax

[19:45:15] <Chanku> I can't figure out how

[19:45:39] <HeilKaiba8921> It's /mode #SchoolSurvival -b HeilKaiba8921!~Who@Rizon-7BB0864B.hsd1.in.comcast.net

[19:46:06] <Chanku> there

[19:46:52] <HeilKaiba8921> it still didn't let me in

[19:46:59] <HeilKaiba8921> Gonna try the web chat

[19:49:16] <HeilKaiba8921> It said the nickname was already in use...am I still in the channel?

[19:50:45] <Chanku> no you aren;y

[19:50:55] <Chanku> although it's used in the server

[19:51:23] <HeilKaiba8921> maybe ghosting?

[19:51:46] <Chanku> Well if you are logged on via client, and keep the client open then you are still logged in

[19:51:54] <Chanku> You have to log out of the client first then open the web chat

[19:54:51] <Kaiba> I closed my client and the webchat still says I'm banned

[19:54:57] You have changed your nickname to Guest14732

[19:55:00] <Guest14732> I think we're gonna need to get Soul on this

[19:55:14] <Chanku> Yup

That is from the first time I got banned. Obviously we figured it out, mostly from the help of some kind citizen that hangs out in the rizon help channel. That person had to go into the channel and tell xcriteria what to do to unban me.
I tried to unban you, but I failed to do so.
Quote:______________________________________________________________________

So, in the end, I think Chanku has gone power hungry and should be removed from his operator privileges.
I think that I shouldn't be removed from Op status because I have not gone power hungry, and infact a lot of the time I accidentally do something because of my client's nature.

Quote:A slightly off-topic bit of information follows below:
Hidden stuff:
So Chanku has setup his bot, Zatch, to be able to give operator status to those that are in the list as soon as they join the channel. This is good since we can't always have an operator in the chat and sitting there waiting for another operator to come in so they can leave. This arguement is not about this bot at all, it is actually about being removed from the operator list without being asked, in any way, to defend myself.

I posted one picture about why /r/fiftyfifty is a fun subreddit to visit, while it was indeed NSFW/L (Not safe for work or life), it was also my first real offense in the chat of posting something that wasn't particularly smart to do. During the time I had posted it, I was not an operator because I did not feel it was necessary to be given operator status right upon logging in since there was nothing going on in chat, and SoulRiser was there if anything did happen.

Here is the conversation about removing me from the list of operators:

Quote:[19:12:05] <+HeilKaiba8921> Why do I often visit /r/fiftyfifty? WHY?

[19:13:41] <@Chanku> I don't really use Reddit, I have an account. I just don't use it....

[19:14:11] <+HeilKaiba8921> This is why you should use it more often... http://i.imgur.com/0n72mYN.png

[19:14:26] <+HeilKaiba8921> And then have a look at this for the other reason

[19:14:27] <+HeilKaiba8921> http://i.imgur.com/lkt7YuC.jpg

[19:14:31] <@Chanku> Dude wtf

[19:14:37] <+HeilKaiba8921> Right?

[19:14:41] <@Chanku> No

[19:14:43] <+HeilKaiba8921> Welcome to /r/fiftyfifty

[19:14:47] <@Chanku> -_-

[19:14:51] <@xcriteria> Umm... what is that? (I haven't clicked.)

[19:14:51] <+HeilKaiba8921> The second link is completely SFW

[19:15:00] <@Chanku> DON'T click the first one.

[19:15:04] <+HeilKaiba8921> It's the reason you visit /r/fiftyfifty in public

[19:15:13] <@xcriteria> Don't post messed up links in here. :<

[19:15:17] <+HeilKaiba8921> (hemorhoid infested asshole)

[19:15:24] <@xcriteria> OMG. Why?

[19:15:35] <@Chanku> Ugh

[19:15:51] <@Chanku> I've lost my appatie, and I was having steak tonight

[19:16:02] <@xcriteria> On the topic of rules... that definely breaks them.

[19:16:52] <@Chanku> Hm....should we punish Kaiba?

[19:20:33] <@xcriteria> That's like Duelix behavior.

[19:20:46] <@Chanku> punishing or the link?

[19:20:51] <@xcriteria> The link.

[19:20:54] <@Chanku> ah okay

[19:21:03] <@xcriteria> I mean Duelix on his worst behavior.

[19:21:30] <@Chanku> Should we kick him or ban him for a short period of time?

[19:21:48] <@xcriteria> Maybe just take him off the op list.

[19:22:06] <@Chanku> okay

[19:22:12] <@Chanku> I'll work on that right away

[19:22:16] <@xcriteria> I don't think specific punishments like banning necessarily change behvaior.

[19:22:44] <@xcriteria> It's better to figure out why people do things, and maybe help them learn why not to do horrible things.

[19:22:47] <@xcriteria> Obviously in some cases bans are required.

[19:25:26] <@Chanku> I'm editing the code now

[19:25:46] <@Chanku> Although all it requires is a minor change in of a line of the code

[19:25:58] <@Chanku> Which is also the first time I used the ||(or)) statement

[19:30:27] <@Neue> There, back.

[19:30:48] <@Chanku> Alright so I edited out his name in the lineup

[19:30:51] <@MichaelMerging> so fresh and so clean clean

[19:31:20] <@Neue> The lineup?

[19:31:45] <@Neue> So, Kaiba is no longer an OP, I take it?

[19:32:03] <@Chanku> correct

[19:32:10] <@Chanku> I've just changed Zatch to reflect it

[19:32:14] <@Neue> Okay.

[19:32:37] <@Chanku> And the changes are live

So, while I should have exercised restraint and not posted the link, I feel like it was wrong to not even ask me about my opinions on what sort of punishment should be done.

I am also not really bothered about losing operator status, but I would like, in the future, that people not get a rather strict punishment for screwing up one time.

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and again, and again, and again, and again...13 times and counting
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Quote:So, in the end, I think Chanku has gone power hungry and should be removed from his operator privileges.

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Potato you were repeatedly asking for Op even when we told you to stop. Besides it wasn't just me it was also Neue.
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Hmmm... punishment? On SS? That seems... silly. We all know punishment accomplishes generally jack squat... right?

Just post a warning if you're going to post something gross. Or, even better, ask people if they'd mind you posting it first.

As for the kicking and banning... it's not like any of you are perma-banned like Duelix, so I don't think it's a huge issue... however, the only reason anyone besides me has ops at all is so they can kickban Duelix when he joins (or anyone doing the same thing)... kicking other people isn't necessary at all. Let Potato keep begging, and people do whatever, as long as they're not disrupting a conversation. If they are... either they or the people having the conversation should use a seperate channel for it.

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no i came on and asked once before you kicked me the first time, eventually you were kicking me even though i was muted. i ain't mad though, because i knew you would. it's funny seeing how you get such a huge power trip from kicking people on an IRC. it's a good thing that you have no power in real-life.
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bitch stfu. i'd call you a retard but that would be insulting to retards
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(03-04-2014 11:56 PM)Potato Wrote:  
Quote:You're such a cunt, if you don't like it here then fuck off.

bitch stfu. i'd call you a retard but that would be insulting to retards

Then what would you call me?

bitch you better stfu or i'm gona go to your house and i'm gona suck yo dick homie
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(03-05-2014 12:04 AM)Sad Ario Wrote:  
(03-05-2014 12:00 AM)Potato Wrote:  
(03-04-2014 11:57 PM)Sad Ario Wrote:  
(03-04-2014 11:56 PM)Potato Wrote:  
Quote:You're such a cunt, if you don't like it here then fuck off.

bitch stfu. i'd call you a retard but that would be insulting to retards

Then what would you call me?

bitch you better stfu or i'm gona go to your house and i'm gona suck yo dick homie

You didn't answer the question.

no shit i didn't answer the question. you want a medal for figuring that out?
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didn't you want to start a flame war?
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(03-04-2014 09:49 AM)DoA Wrote:  This is part of the reason why I don't go on chat.

Seeing this makes me sad. So does the above exchange between Ario and Potato, but that's a different kind of sad.

DoA, we've had (and continue to have) many substantive, meaningful conversations in chat that I think you'd have a lot to contribute to, and get a lot out of.

Beyond just "chatting," these are also steps toward creating content (including this documentary series concept, videos and texts for the site, a site focused on parents, possible print publications like the book you've had in mind and so on.) In other words, things that could encourage others to engage in more substantive discussion about transforming education, and building "joyful learning communities."

(03-04-2014 07:29 PM)SoulRiser Wrote:  Hmmm... punishment? On SS? That seems... silly. We all know punishment accomplishes generally jack squat... right?

Just post a warning if you're going to post something gross. Or, even better, ask people if they'd mind you posting it first.

I agree regarding punishment. My suggestion to remove Kaiba from the op list wasn't intended as a "punishment," so much as my idea that posting disgusting photos is (1) not something for this channel to begin with, and (2) not something ops should be doing.

We can discuss that further, but personally I don't think gross-out images have any place in SS chat, warning or not. What Kaiba posted parallels what Duelix posted on the forums. It's just completely unnecessary, and it creates an unsupportive, counter-productive environment where people have to question every link they click on, and every conversation they jump into.

Likewise, coming in with vulgar names creates a negative, disruptive environment that will turn some people away. Of course, adding any rules about such things will bring charges of "being uptight," "stamping out fun" and "crushing free speech." That's a whole conversation in itself... but creating a hostile environment also "crushes free speech."

One solution is to have multiple channels (and places on the Internet) with different purposes, as we've discussed. The question is then what the main SS channel should be about, and what's appropriate there (especially if we succeed at getting more new visitors to the site.)

Thoughts on that?

(03-04-2014 07:29 PM)SoulRiser Wrote:  As for the kicking and banning... it's not like any of you are perma-banned like Duelix, so I don't think it's a huge issue... however, the only reason anyone besides me has ops at all is so they can kickban Duelix when he joins (or anyone doing the same thing)... kicking other people isn't necessary at all. Let Potato keep begging, and people do whatever, as long as they're not disrupting a conversation. If they are... either they or the people having the conversation should use a seperate channel for it.

:(

We've already begun doing that with separate, themed channels. But, my hope is that the main channel not be primarily a "basement," given that it's the place most people go to first, and it's the easiest place to hang out when there's not an active conversation going.
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(03-05-2014 12:44 AM)Sad Ario Wrote:  
(03-05-2014 12:42 AM)Potato Wrote:  didn't you want to start a flame war?

I figure smart people have more important things to do than flame a below average, stupid idiot of a 14 year old.

Ario, your comment to Potato above was quite harsh... I think in his mind, that opened the door to a harsh exchange ("flame war.")

(03-04-2014 11:48 PM)Sad Ario Wrote:  You're such a cunt, if you don't like it here then fuck off.

I can see why you wanted to make a critical response to what Potato said, but this is where the idea of "constructive criticism vs. verbal abuse" comes into play.

Calling people harsh names and speaking to them in that tone tends to cause a lot more problems that it can solve. It could hurt people's feelings, but more likely it will just escalate the conflict or send people into "I'm in a flame war" mode.

Where does that get any of us?

@Potato, you've got to realize that you're causing a nuisance. Why are you doing that?

My guess is you have a mix of motivations. In part, you're just being silly and alleviating boredom, and in part, you're trying to make a potentially valid point. Approaching a conversation with the purpose of tearing others down is unlikely to help any valid point you have.

In short, SoulRiser added multiple ops primarily to combat Duelix disrupting the chat. Since then, people have used ops to combat other disruptions. There's the question of what is a legitimate use of "power" in the chat, and in communities and in life in general. Why not discuss that, calmly, rationally, and respectfully?
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Quote:@Potato, you've got to realize that you're causing a nuisance. Why are you doing that?

My guess is you have a mix of motivations. In part, you're just being silly and alleviating boredom, and in part, you're trying to make a potentially valid point. Approaching a conversation with the purpose of tearing others down is unlikely to help any valid point you have.

In short, SoulRiser added multiple ops primarily to combat Duelix disrupting the chat. Since then, people have used ops to combat other disruptions. There's the question of what is a legitimate use of "power" in the chat, and in communities and in life in general. Why not discuss that, calmly, rationally, and respectfully?

"In part, you're just being silly and alleviating boredom, and in part, you're trying to make a potentially valid point."

i sometimes try to make valid points, but you've got to realize, making valid points on the internet doesn't help anyone accomplish anything worthwhile with their life, so the final answer to every question of "why is someone doing this or that on the internet" is almost always to alleviate boredom. if you're talking about ario and i, there was no valid points to be made there. ario pmed me, and implied that he was trying to bait me into a flame war so he could have somebody to curse at. idk why he backed out though.

"There's the question of what is a legitimate use of "power" in the chat, and in communities and in life in general. Why not discuss that, calmly, rationally, and respectfully?"

yea why not. you can start. it's a pretty broad topic imo
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(03-05-2014 02:27 AM)Potato Wrote:  i have a thousand important things to do and i'm still procrastinating here because i'm as bored as fuq

Then get your shit together and do something better.Razz

I should, too.(But I don't have/want anything better to do.... oh god, what has my life become?)
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(03-05-2014 03:33 AM)Sad Ario Wrote:  
(03-05-2014 01:48 AM)xcriteria Wrote:  I can see why you wanted to make a critical response to what Potato said, but this is where the idea of "constructive criticism vs. verbal abuse" comes into play.

Calling people harsh names and speaking to them in that tone tends to cause a lot more problems that it can solve. It could hurt people's feelings, but more likely it will just escalate the conflict or send people into "I'm in a flame war" mode.

Where does that get any of us?

If I were you, I'd stop trying to educate someone with the mental capabilities of a squirrel.

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(06-14-2013 08:02 AM)Potato Wrote:  watch the fuq out, we've got an "intellectual" over here.

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