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Quote:(even tho you can't legally use pistol to shoot someone unarmed, can you shoot armed with melee weapon tho?
You can, as long as you can demonstrate you were seriously threatened with severe bodily injury or death.

Exactly what that means will probably be up to the state and jury, of course. Libtard state and you're out of luck. If it's teabag territory they'll exercise some common sense, unless they find out that you're, say, nonreligious (or even worse, atheist, although they probably don't know the difference). Then you are a murderer.

As far as gender discrimination goes, aside from obvious physiological differences, both sexes should be equal.

Is it OK for a man to do this job requiring bodily strength? Then it's also OK for a woman.
Is it OK for a woman to cry in this situation? Then it's also fine for a man.
Is it justified to injure a man when you are attacked? Then it's also justified to injure a woman.
Would a man be paid this amount for this work? A women should receive exactly the same salary.

And so on.

What I DON'T think should be done is something like expecting a pregnant women to continue performing a job requiring physical strength with the same level of fitness. I would, however, understand if her paycheck were reduced accordingly, provided she gets paid as much as a man would be paid for the same amount of work.
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I'm back with another article if anyone wants to read more: http://rebukingfeminism.blogspot.com/201...o-men.html

I still see that system is very basic and humans haven't evolved that much, still the same ol' dumbfuckery, maybe indeed consciousness and self awareness is a mistake that happened in nature and by law we shouldn't even exist(Has anyone seen True Detective?)... Who knows...
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this thread

damn it

there is discrimination against males but just because a woman says "men suck" doesn't mean it's discrimination

see there's still more discrimination against women than men in today's society and this thread isn't helping

anyway if a woman says "men suck" instead of "some men suck" it makes men question whether they are a part of the misogyny instead of letting them think "oh im okay i dont do that myself because she said "some men suck""
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I don't think the accurate term here is "discrimination" but rather "gender role" that has been noticed here. I think real discrimination is more or less something akin to Jim Crow. In general, men don't face this kind of discrimination.

However, that doesn't mean though that media images and "common sense" perceptions aren't harmful. Ever heard of the "men think about sex every seven seconds" myth? It's all these dumb double standards that exist within the world today. If a man looks at a woman, he's a perv, but if a woman does the same to a man, it's perfectly okay.

What really pisses me the fuck off though is that men are expected not to show emotion, and are expected to "man everything out" and showing emotion is a sign of weakness. What fucking bullshit. Expressing emotion and crying is perfectly normal human reaction for anyone (except really messed up people). I think these double standards on depression help explain the large suicide rate among men, and perhaps also, the large arrest rate as well. It's pretty much the same conformist social norm image that is re-inforced on teenagers.

Not to say women don't have their fair amount of double standards as well, like them not being able to play sports, or do anything meaningful than stay at home (srsly YouTube commenters?).

That's my view on it. Not discrimination, but double standard. And yes, definitely harmful.

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(02-04-2014 12:33 PM)Hansgrohe Wrote:  What really pisses me the fuck off though is that men are expected not to show emotion, and are expected to "man everything out" and showing emotion is a sign of weakness. What fucking bullshit. Expressing emotion and crying is perfectly normal human reaction for anyone (except really messed up people). I think these double standards on depression help explain the large suicide rate among men, and perhaps also, the large arrest rate as well. It's pretty much the same conformist social norm image that is re-inforced on teenagers.

I can agree with this, but remember it's pretty much men who enforce this on other men.
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(02-10-2014 01:52 PM)Trar Wrote:  
(02-04-2014 12:33 PM)Hansgrohe Wrote:  What really pisses me the fuck off though is that men are expected not to show emotion, and are expected to "man everything out" and showing emotion is a sign of weakness. What fucking bullshit. Expressing emotion and crying is perfectly normal human reaction for anyone (except really messed up people). I think these double standards on depression help explain the large suicide rate among men, and perhaps also, the large arrest rate as well. It's pretty much the same conformist social norm image that is re-inforced on teenagers.

I can agree with this, but remember it's pretty much men who enforce this on other men.

Yep. Blame the media as well, too. I think this should also serve as another reason to create our own "help kit" for teens. One reason should be to deny the bullshit of "manning it out" and say that it's perfectly normal to express human emotion.

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Gotta check it cis scum. Remember kids, just because you are a white male means you are a rapist and the entire world was built around you.
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(02-11-2014 01:34 PM)gore goroth Wrote:  Gotta check it cis scum. Remember kids, just because you are a white male means you are a rapist and the entire world was built around you.
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That's a nice bad post you got there.

They don't say these things because they genuinely hate all white/cisgender/male people, they say it because they are frustrated with the oppression many of them face in society, which is more often than not still biased against them (PoC/LGBTQA). And here you are taking the piss out of one of their ways of coping.

And for the record, I wish 'check your privilege' hadn't been co-opted by the likes of you. Maybe it would still be a useful phrase. Maybe you should take stock of your inherent privilege (if you have any), because it can certainly affect how you see things.
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Gore goroth, Trar. Not exactly a very rational user....

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Quote:That's a nice bad post you got there.

you too Smile

Quote:They don't say these things because they genuinely hate all white/cisgender/male people, they say it because they are frustrated with the oppression many of them face in society, which is more often than not still biased against them (PoC/LGBTQA). And here you are taking the piss out of one of their ways of coping.

So we should all just excuse assholish behavior because "BAAAAAwwww I'm a victim?" Rape is a serious accusation and when you falsely accuse men of rape you don't deserve to be taken seriously. And what if I told you all this so called "oppression" and "the patriarchy" is actually made up bullshit to excuse such behavior? And what exactly is all this "oppression" women face everyday? Women have every right men do. Name a right that men have that women don't.... I'm waiting...

And believe it or not, feminists DO hate men. They have actually convinced themselves men are the root of all their problems. Look at this video and tell me how feminists aren't a hate group.


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Quote:And for the record, I wish 'check your privilege' hadn't been co-opted by the likes of you. Maybe it would still be a useful phrase. Maybe you should take stock of your inherent privilege (if you have any), because it can certainly affect how you see things.

Oh look at all the privileges I have as a white male
>I have the privilege of being forced to register for the military draft, but women don't
>If I hit a woman, I have the privilege of going to jail, but if a woman hits me, she doesn't go to jail
>I have the privilege of having to pay for college but other races get free college grants thanks to affirmative action. But there is no affirmative action for white people because "nope sorry you're white. No money for you."

And last of all I have the privilege of being a scapegoat by all these far-left hate groups for all the world's problems that I have nothing to do with. White people owned slaves hundreds of years ago and that was wrong, but that time is over. Get over it. I don't owe the world shit because I was born a white male.

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(02-14-2014 07:21 PM)gore goroth Wrote:  Oh look at all the privileges I have as a white male
>I have the privilege of being forced to register for the military draft, but women don't
>If I hit a woman, I have the privilege of going to jail, but if a woman hits me, she doesn't go to jail
>I have the privilege of having to pay for college but other races get free college grants thanks to affirmative action. But there is no affirmative action for white people because "nope sorry you're white. No money for you."

And last of all I have the privilege of being a scapegoat by all these far-left hate groups for all the world's problems that I have nothing to do with. White people owned slaves hundreds of years ago and that was wrong, but that time is over. Get over it. I don't owe the world shit because I was born a white male.

Yeah, this is something that I can't cope with.
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Quote:So we should all just excuse assholish behavior because "BAAAAAwwww I'm a victim?" Rape is a serious accusation and when you falsely accuse men of rape you don't deserve to be taken seriously. And what if I told you all this so called "oppression" and "the patriarchy" is actually made up bullshit to excuse such behavior? And what exactly is all this "oppression" women face everyday? Women have every right men do. Name a right that men have that women don't.... I'm waiting...

You're right. Indeed, women nowadays have just as much rights as men.... something that has only been achieved recently.

Quote:And believe it or not, feminists DO hate men. They have actually convinced themselves men are the root of all their problems. Look at this video and tell me how feminists aren't a hate group.


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Oh no. Feminazi is being confused with feminist here. A shame, actually. Seems the term "feminist" has been soiled like many other political terms, so much I actually have begun hating it.

Quote:Oh look at all the privileges I have as a white male
>I have the privilege of being forced to register for the military draft, but women don't
>If I hit a woman, I have the privilege of going to jail, but if a woman hits me, she doesn't go to jail
>I have the privilege of having to pay for college but other races get free college grants thanks to affirmative action. But there is no affirmative action for white people because "nope sorry you're white. No money for you."

And last of all I have the privilege of being a scapegoat by all these far-left hate groups for all the world's problems that I have nothing to do with. White people owned slaves hundreds of years ago and that was wrong, but that time is over. Get over it. I don't owe the world shit because I was born a white male.

I actually agree with the military draft. I actually think no one should be forced into that shit, because patriotism is a load of bullshit to me.

As for the hitting, I would raise the issue that, though indeed it's sad that domestic violence against men isn't taken as seriously (oh, and that leads to a fuckload of problems), it should be noted women are generally more encouraged to report, as opposed to men who aren't and just told to accept it. It's a social perception rather than discrimination that can be changed.

Oh, and you forgot a lot of racial minorities are poor, right? There's a legitimate reason for that. However, I believe that poor white families can still get subsidized college, right? (I'm thinking Pell Grants)

I actually agree with you. No one should be ashamed of anything, no one should take pride in anything they had no control over. Such is useless. Holding onto irrelevant issues is useless. But the "I don't owe the world shit" attitude really shows a lot of narcissism and apathy, an attitude which I absolutely cannot stand.

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women are generally much weaker than men so their hits probably shouldn't really hurt, they're also less aggressive. because they don't have a lot of testosterone.

i agree with the rest of that list
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(02-14-2014 07:21 PM)gore goroth Wrote:  So we should all just excuse assholish behavior because "BAAAAAwwww I'm a victim?"

thank you for misunderstanding the methods used to cope with issues faced by them and to raise awareness/have people question where they are on the issues (if you're passive, you're practically supporting shit). i believe it is prudent to mention that in a society such as ours, decisive and loud action on their part is a necessary survival tactic; because they face a lot of shit and some people are going to shit on them no matter what

(02-14-2014 07:21 PM)gore goroth Wrote:  Rape is a serious accusation and when you falsely accuse men of rape you don't deserve to be taken seriously.

i didn't even mention rape. there's little reason to falsely accuse men of rape because either A. the accusation will either be taken very seriously and will result in repercussions for the accuser when the truth is revealed or B. it's one of those steubenville cases where nobody gives a fuck

(02-14-2014 07:21 PM)gore goroth Wrote:  And what if I told you all this so called "oppression" and "the patriarchy" is actually made up bullshit to excuse such behavior? And what exactly is all this "oppression" women face everyday? Women have every right men do. Name a right that men have that women don't.... I'm waiting...

this is dumb and you are dumb

(02-14-2014 07:21 PM)gore goroth Wrote:  And believe it or not, feminists DO hate men. They have actually convinced themselves men are the root of all their problems. Look at this video and tell me how feminists aren't a hate group.


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(02-14-2014 07:21 PM)gore goroth Wrote:  Oh look at all the privileges I have as a white male
>I have the privilege of being forced to register for the military draft, but women don't
>If I hit a woman, I have the privilege of going to jail, but if a woman hits me, she doesn't go to jail
>I have the privilege of having to pay for college but other races get free college grants thanks to affirmative action. But there is no affirmative action for white people because "nope sorry you're white. No money for you."

look at all of those cherrypicked examples where men are not completely dominant in a society where they more often than not are, sometimes obviously so sometimes not

also i like your le 4chan meme arrows DIAF please

the draft is kinda iffy i suppose, and hopefully if/when women get full access to the military women get to be drafted too. the reasoning behind the draft isn't even about women shitting on men it's because men were considered overall stronger

the second...'point' is also kinda iffy because there's been some shitty domestic abuse laws passed regarding this issue. laws that automatically target the man in such situations screw over the occasional man that is being abused by the woman. still doesn't change the fact that the majority of abusers in these situations are men

affirmative action is there not only because minorities are more likely to be poor but to combat inherent racial bias still present in some (probably most) areas of society.

(02-14-2014 07:21 PM)gore goroth Wrote:  And last of all I have the privilege of being a scapegoat by all these far-left hate groups for all the world's problems that I have nothing to do with. White people owned slaves hundreds of years ago and that was wrong, but that time is over.

white people still benefit from the actions of their forebears. it's not so much to scapegoat (they already fucking know that not all white people/men are shit, they say this to cope with problems and to get whites/men to think about where they stand on the issues) as it is to, holy fuck, raise awareness. see a pattern here? i suppose some of them aim to make whites/men feel ashamed but IMHO it's not so much that as to, again, raise awareness and provoke thought. public school teaches us jack shit about this.

(02-14-2014 07:21 PM)gore goroth Wrote:  Get over it. I don't owe the world shit because I was born a white male.

i have to agree with Hans here. i suggest you get over yourself first

also read this before you reply

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it makes my points better than i could. this applies to the entire blog. be a man and read it
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(02-04-2014 12:33 PM)Hansgrohe Wrote:  What really pisses me the fuck off though is that men are expected not to show emotion, and are expected to "man everything out" and showing emotion is a sign of weakness. What fucking bullshit. Expressing emotion and crying is perfectly normal human reaction for anyone (except really messed up people). I think these double standards on depression help explain the large suicide rate among men, and perhaps also, the large arrest rate as well. It's pretty much the same conformist social norm image that is re-inforced on teenagers.
I think the thing with this is that women showing emotions (when it's not like, nurturing, maternal, largely focused on other people, and even then somewhat understated) is expected but still stigmatized. It's considered a given that women will be emotional but still held against them. And I don't think it's really considered acceptable for anyone but young children to cry in front of anyone except maybe immediate family and very close friends?

In certain ways it's similar to men in 'pink collar' professions. There is some stigma involved with men in certain jobs--nursing, teaching young children, social work. But the result of that stigma is that men in those positions are disproportionately promoted to higher-pay, higher-status management or policy positions.

These stereotypes aren't not harmful to men individually, but they still have benefits in terms of like, power, status, perceived competence, etc.

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Quote:thank you for misunderstanding the methods used to cope with issues faced by them and to raise awareness/have people question where they are on the issues (if you're passive, you're practically supporting shit). i believe it is prudent to mention that in a society such as ours, decisive and loud action on their part is a necessary survival tactic; because they face a lot of shit and some people are going to shit on them no matter what

What do you mean "in a society like ours"? For the last time women ARE NOT DISCRIMINATED AGAINST in the United States or any other 1st world country for that matter. There is no patriarchy. It's something feminists made up to rally around and justify their self-victimization, bullying, and name-calling tactics to get their way. Women are equal by law in the U.S. and it has been that way since women's suffrage.

Quote:i didn't even mention rape. there's little reason to falsely accuse men of rape because either A. the accusation will either be taken very seriously and will result in repercussions for the accuser when the truth is revealed or B. it's one of those steubenville cases where nobody gives a fuck

You didn't mention rape, but you are trying to justify all these feminist accusations and feminism in general, correct?Then why do feminists keep using the term "rape culture" and constantly accuse men of rape? And don't tell me "oh its just to cope with issues and raise awareness". Seriously listen to that woman in the end she's fucking ridiculous and all you have to justify this is 'MUH PATRIARCHY"!!!!!111 Two wrongs don't make a right. Feminists claim they are against discrimination and yet they discriminate against everyone else. That is why feminism isn't taken very seriously by the majority of men. Feminists choose censorship and name-calling over reason and try to alienate men rather than reason with them and that is why feminism is a joke. Why would a self-respecting man want anything to do with such a movement that obviously goes against his own interests?
Quote:this is dumb and you are dumb

"lolololoolllo ur dum!!!" and you prove all my points.

Quote:anti-feminist parody blogs/strawmen/the occasional militant feminist =/ feminism in general. you'd be surprised how many of the first two are painted to be actual feminism

And yet you are a spitting image of all those parodies.

Quote:look at all of those cherrypicked examples where men are not completely dominant in a society where they more often than not are, sometimes obviously so sometimes not

And yet you have yet to show ANY examples of why your ridiculous claims of oppression are true.

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Quote:affirmative action is there not only because minorities are more likely to be poor but to combat inherent racial bias still present in some (probably most) areas of society.

So we should steal money from the white people against their will through taxation and give it to everyone else? Not only is that morally reprehensible, but racist. And what was that about equality?

Quote:white people still benefit from the actions of their forebears. it's not so much to scapegoat (they already fucking know that not all white people/men are shit, they say this to cope with problems and to get whites/men to think about where they stand on the issues) as it is to, holy fuck, raise awareness. see a pattern here? i suppose some of them aim to make whites/men feel ashamed but IMHO it's not so much that as to, again, raise awareness and provoke thought. public school teaches us jack shit about this.

Well I guess that is one way to raise awareness. Just like the Westboro-baptist church and the Stormfront crowd with their hate-mongering. The feminists have to stoop this low.

Quote:i have to agree with Hans here. i suggest you get over yourself first

You and Hans always using ad-homeneim in place of real arguments. Let the butthurt flow through you.

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FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT

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02-17-2014 04:35 PM
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Discrimination against females!

Hehe, finally my thread blew up, I'm enjoying the read!

Quite interesting points, everyone.
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02-18-2014 12:49 AM
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Discrimination against females!



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RE: Discrimination against females!

(02-17-2014 04:35 PM)Gwedin Wrote:  FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT

It's admittedly tempting, but I'm not here just to fight and claim victory. The reason I even posted here to begin with is to help people see what's really going on. Calling him dumb was rash, yes, and I should have explained why he was wrong. And I will soon.
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RE: Discrimination against females!

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Discrimination against females!

This kind of shit is why I stopped coming to these forums. Let me lay it down for ya:

We live in a patriarchal society
Sometimes patriarchy backfires on men
Done.
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RE: Discrimination against females!

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