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We have done nothing.
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We have done nothing.

This is NOT one of those threads were I will try to shame everyone into fighting for our rights. This is a discussion as to why we have not done anything, and how we can change that.

I believe we have not done anything because we are afraid to do anything. Don't get me wrong, a lot of us do little things, try to spread the word, hand in anti-school paperwork, hand out flyers or tape them up, and more, but we ALL know that none of that will accomplish anything with the numbers we have and the goals we wish to obtain.

Maybe some of you are afraid of ruining your future.
Maybe some of you are afraid of losing the respect of your peers.
Maybe some of you are afraid of losing a stable environment.
Or maybe, like me, it's all of the above and more.

Regardless, I think we all know that each and every one of us has the potential to create a change in our communities, and a change in the world. I feel a lot of us are open minded, intelligent and different at the very least, and we all hold the ability to do something that will surely make a difference in the youth rights spectrum, or some other spectrum.

How can we do this? I haven't the slightest clue. Maybe we can start some sort of fad, maybe we can all start youth rights chapters in our areas, maybe we organize some sort of sit-in or walk-out or something involving less danger in multiple schools around the nation, or better yet, the world at which point we could create a press release stating why we did it, and perhaps the organization we are promoting. There are literally hundreds of tactics, and possible things we can do.

We need to do something.

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Re: We have done nothing.

Why fight when it will accomplish nothing.

Sit ins, protests and the like accomplish Jack nothing unless a huge majority is interested and even then thats still stretching it.

Youth rights is dandy but there are worse problems in the world that people are stupidly an pathetic too so it doesn't feel like youth rights has any ghost of a chance.

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Course it will be hard, and probably take more time then we have, but I'm kind of bored, and I don't feel like working on other problems to much. Not to mention, we could probably set up something that would get plenty of media attention without expending to much energy.

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I agree. We should attempt to fight it now, or things may never change.
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I kinda get the feeling that if we all met for a party or something, we'd inevitably end up taking action. But it's hard to put your life on the line for people you've only talked to online, no matter how much you like and trust them.

I think Buenaventura Durruti is a pretty cool guy. eh kills fascists and doesnt afraid of ruins.
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Rebelnerd Wrote:I kinda get the feeling that if we all met for a party or something, we'd inevitably end up taking action. But it's hard to put your life on the line for people you've only talked to online, no matter how much you like and trust them.

Very much so this.

You all are alright people for a bunch of weirdos Laugh but even we all conflict in alot of out ideals and eventually if we did meet up I kind of see it blowing up in our faces.

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HeartofShadows Wrote:
Rebelnerd Wrote:I kinda get the feeling that if we all met for a party or something, we'd inevitably end up taking action. But it's hard to put your life on the line for people you've only talked to online, no matter how much you like and trust them.

Very much so this.

You all are alright people for a bunch of weirdos Laugh but even we all conflict in alot of out ideals and eventually if we did meet up I kind of see it blowing up in our faces.

Yea probably. I wonder what would happen if mystery showed up.

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Absentinsomniac Wrote:
HeartofShadows Wrote:
Rebelnerd Wrote:I kinda get the feeling that if we all met for a party or something, we'd inevitably end up taking action. But it's hard to put your life on the line for people you've only talked to online, no matter how much you like and trust them.

Very much so this.

You all are alright people for a bunch of weirdos Laugh but even we all conflict in alot of out ideals and eventually if we did meet up I kind of see it blowing up in our faces.

Yea probably. I wonder what would happen if mystery showed up.

Mystery for all his zanyness(trolling?) is alright with me.

However bobman showed up I would put a beating on him.(JK) I would just steal his money.

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Laugh Would be funny.

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Re: We have done nothing.

You know, having an SS party would be awesome, though something tells me it'd partially mimic the forums on an average week.

Here's a question. Where would it be held? It'd have to be at a location all SSers could access somehow, whether by carpooling and banding together or taking a plane.

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and by pinch of salt i actually mean you need to build a fucking salt processing plant so you have enough salt to dispell the bullshit
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Leon Kinotolian Wrote:You know, having an SS party would be awesome, though something tells me it'd partially mimic the forums on an average week.

Here's a question. Where would it be held? It'd have to be at a location all SSers could access somehow, whether by carpooling and banding together or taking a plane.

Some of us live outside in different countries and we all don't have bobmans money to hop up and move when we want too.

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I'd be down for an SS meet up anywhere in the US...once I get my license in a few months. (I'm thinking February) I'd even be able to bring L along since he lives nearby.

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|55555| Wrote:I'd be down for an SS meet up anywhere in the US...once I get my license in a few months. (I'm thinking February October)I'd even be able to bring L along.

This.

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Hm... We should figure out again who lives where. Maybe a poll?

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Leon Kinotolian Wrote:Hm... We should figure out again who lives where. Maybe a poll?

Verily.

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It'd be funny to see an all-forum meet up, I wonder what the dynamics would be compared to the forum.
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And then Justin would show up out of nowhere. "SUP GUYS?"

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why would we meet up? wouldn't that make it easier to kill us all off. eggs in one basket break from 1 tennis ball and a racket.

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Because we're not exactly big time terrorists. I said over the phone yesterday that I shot the vice president and no one did shit. xD I think we're fine for now.

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CrayolaColours Wrote:Because we're not exactly big time terrorists. I said over the phone yesterday that I shot the vice president and no one did shit. xD I think we're fine for now.

Pretty much. The government could be keeping an eye on us, but they don't take it all to seriously.

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Absentinsomniac Wrote:
CrayolaColours Wrote:Because we're not exactly big time terrorists. I said over the phone yesterday that I shot the vice president and no one did shit. xD I think we're fine for now.

Pretty much. The government could be keeping an eye on us, but they don't take it all to seriously.

That might change if we actually start accomplishing something Wink
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The government tries to keep track of any subversive groups that they can, but if Neo-Nazis and militia aren't being mysteriously killed, I think we'll be fine.

I think Buenaventura Durruti is a pretty cool guy. eh kills fascists and doesnt afraid of ruins.
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Rebelnerd Wrote:The government tries to keep track of any subversive groups that they can, but if Neo-Nazis and militia aren't being mysteriously killed, I think we'll be fine.

Good point. They wouldn't do anything to overtly, and there's no way they would kill anyone under the age of eighteen even if they were. It's not plausible, and they probably wouldn't care to much if we were just having a meeting.

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