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"Model Student"
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"Model Student"

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Why is school so hell-bent on turning people into the conformed "model student"? One that does all their work, turns it in, obeys the teacher and all the demands, scores high on the test, etc. It almost seems as if school is trying to kill off different personalities and instead create a unified one. School basically attempts to exclude other personality types. I find that pretty creepy. I won't try to say that this is the complete point of school, but it seems that the "model student" seems to be more on churning out a drone rather than a human being.

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RE: "Model Student"

This is a side effect of the "factory model" of education, and associated "factory model thinking" among educators, administrators, students, and parents.

Justin Schwamm has written about this a lot in his daily blog, which I've been following over the past 14 months or so. Here's one of his posts from the other day, that generated a fair amount of follow-up discussion: Spending Time Well.

Of course, as a teacher, this was made during winter break, and isn't about school itself. But, the idea of spending time well, or "being accountable" in some sense of the word, would certainly be part of being a "model student," no?

And yet, how well is time spent in most of school, relative to any particular purposes, beyond perpetuating the factory model of education?

(And, it's really got to change for the 21st century, for economic reasons among others. In short, it's risky to continue doing things the way people have been doing them, even if change is risky as well.)

But, it's a good question -- what is a model student, as defined within the factory model, vs defined in terms of learning and growing according to a broader definition?

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RE: "Model Student"

I find model students to be...inferior.

Why a model? A small representation. A cheap tiny knock off.
Id rather be a statue student. Like the colossus of Rhodes, stretched across the inlet.

Its all mimicry and imitation. The term model alludes to that, signifying the importance of singular imitation of a small scale model representing its host(a corrupted parasite in most instances).

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It's the whole point of school. Conforming

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RE: "Model Student"

(01-03-2014 05:11 PM)brainiac3397 Wrote:  I find model students to be...inferior.

Why a model? A small representation. A cheap tiny knock off.
Id rather be a statue student. Like the colossus of Rhodes, stretched across the inlet.

Its all mimicry and imitation. The term model alludes to that, signifying the importance of singular imitation of a small scale model representing its host(a corrupted parasite in most instances).

Heh, that reminds me of these custom action figure services, like this one. Smile

Or if you prefer statues, some people do that, too, like this statue-maker.

One the other hand, you can always make or envision of a collection of statues, models, or action figures who have some kind of drama going in between them, or who are fighting a battle, or even trying to collaborate on a project. A "model" might sound like a fixed image, but translate it into "actor" and put them in a situation, then see what happens.

But wait, you need a writer, or some reality-show-style catalyst, or a curriculum and schedule, or they won't know what to do!

Or, at least a villain, because of the trope Villains Act, Heroes React.

"An odd fact about the nature of initiative in fiction: If somebody has a plan at the start of the story, that character is probably a villain."

Everyone else is supposed to just go through the motions of their job. But maybe, just maybe, there's a third option beyond heroes and villains, writers and actors.

Step one, Don’t let others dictate your life, step two, figure out an alternate plan.

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RE: "Model Student"

I learned step one the hard way. Ive got a plan(aka step two) but have some difficulty getting across due to certain inhibiting factors.

Hopefully those will be handled soon. My alternate plan invovles a nice life retreat so I can find my center and synchronize my life(the one guided and modfied by others) with myself.

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The exact reason why I am never going to join scholarship...full of hideous inferior "model students"

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Honestly, after reading this, I question if I am one of these inferior model students...
On one hand, I always listen to the teacher, no matter how much of a bitch they are, I score well on tests, and always do my work. On the other, I occasionally speak (or write) about how I honestly feel about how school is just a messed up system in 90% in writings that I can just speak my mind about. I also act like an extreme class clown, always goofing off and getting people to think: "How did he do better than me on the test?" "How did he make such a high score on the ACT?" "How is he first chair in the orchestra?" when the teacher leaves. Am I one of these inferior model students? If so, how can I change?

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^My school experience.

I did pretty decent on my SAT and only "studied" 4 hours while classmates spent 40 hours a week.
I had the stress level of a sloth(I scored a 3 on this short trivial quiz that gave your stress level. Obviously not 100% perfect but had some degree of truth) while everyone else was overly stressed(mainly due to my views and beliefs that make certain things irrelevant because dwelling on them excessively will never provide a return).

I was also generally stress free. Only after highschool the stress piled up(and mainly because my parents seperated and my mother decided to dump all the burden of the stuff my father usually handled on me. Bills,insurance, calling customer service, mail etc. As if I dont have to stress about rhe fact everything happening now was neither my own plan nor what I wanted at all).

Plus I always had an issue with homework Biggrin

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