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Prince Rilian Wrote:I don't celebrate september eleventh.

Its not celebrating.

More just finding a positive way to grieve.

It takes more muscles to smile than to frown.
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Prince Rilian Wrote:I don't celebrate september eleventh.

Its not celebrating.

More just finding a positive way to grieve.

It takes more muscles to smile than to frown.
Thanks for ruining my joke.

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Prince Rilian Wrote:I don't celebrate september eleventh.

Its not celebrating.

More just finding a positive way to grieve.

It takes more muscles to smile than to frown.
You mean more muscles to frown than to smile?

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HeartofShadows Wrote:
Prince Rilian Wrote:I don't celebrate september eleventh.

Its not celebrating.

More just finding a positive way to grieve.

It takes more muscles to smile than to frown.
You mean more muscles to frown than to smile?

I was waiting on somebody to catch that(figured rillian would)

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HeartofShadows Wrote:I was waiting on somebody to catch that(figured rillian would)

Oh well here's your cookie.
Don't I get a cookie for not being a douche and pointing out a typo?

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HeartofShadows Wrote:I was waiting on somebody to catch that(figured rillian would)

Oh well here's your cookie.
Don't I get a cookie for not being a douche and pointing out a typo?

Oh sure here's a chocolate cookie.

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It may take more muscles to frown then to smile, but you exert more force smiling than frowning.
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Fuck you.

What if your family or friends had been killed on 9/11? Oh, wait, that's right. Your family hates you and probably don't have many friends. Maybe it's because you're an insensitive asshole who insists that the government did it, or who laughs and tries to look like a rebel? But that's aside the point.

It doesn't matter how many people died, who died, or who did it. 3,000 innocent people were killed that day, and all you assholes can do is say, "it was only 3,000 people, it doesn't matter?" Fuck you.

And those of you who think the government did it disappoint me just as much. Did you not see the planes fly into the buildings? Are you so mentally impaired that you can't understand that when you fly a fucking plane into a fucking building, the building usually collapses? Why not say aliens did it? That's just as much a valid theory as the government. Or why not say the education system did it? Or PETA?

You all make me ashamed. I'm embarrassed to associate myself with you people; you fucking assholes who think it's funny to make fun of a national disaster.
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Bobman I can't hear you over all the honking! Laugh

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That's it, new official story.

PETA did it.

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lol at the guy on the right. Laugh

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BobManPerson Wrote:Fuck you.

What if your family or friends had been killed on 9/11? Oh, wait, that's right. Your family hates you and probably don't have many friends. Maybe it's because you're an insensitive asshole who insists that the government did it, or who laughs and tries to look like a rebel? But that's aside the point.

It doesn't matter how many people died, who died, or who did it. 3,000 innocent people were killed that day, and all you assholes can do is say, "it was only 3,000 people, it doesn't matter?" Fuck you.

And those of you who think the government did it disappoint me just as much. Did you not see the planes fly into the buildings? Are you so mentally impaired that you can't understand that when you fly a fucking plane into a fucking building, the building usually collapses? Why not say aliens did it? That's just as much a valid theory as the government. Or why not say the education system did it? Or PETA?

You all make me ashamed. I'm embarrassed to associate myself with you people; you fucking assholes who think it's funny to make fun of a national disaster.
If my family died in the attacks I would be very sensitive about the topic, but they didn't so I really don't feel anything. And as for the numbers, Yeah, 3000 people dying sucks ass but our government causes the death of more than that on a regular basis. Chile, Cuba, the middle east. Are those lives less important than some people who got killed in a tower? I don't hear you bawwing about them. just because it was on american soil everyone cries their fucking eyes out. This is nothing, Britain had the blitz, Italy had mussolini, Germany had fucking hitler. Thats a reason to fucking cry. This just shows america is full of soft pussies.
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Rebelnerd Wrote:People die everyday, which apparently means we shouldn't care about death.
People go to school everyday and get treated like shit, so we start a whole website to get people organized in opposition and go into a rage every time we hear about injustice on the news.

What's the key difference here, besides one being much worse than the other? Simple: the death thing isn't happening to you. So everyone saying 9/11 doesn't matter is just a selfish prick who doesn't give a shit about anything except their own comfort and happiness.
I sing your praises Rebelnerd
Most of these people who say they don't give a shit about it are either fucking lying or fucking idiots. Sure, people die everyday, but this shit was a fucking attack. Crazy assholes killed innocents because of some twisted ideas they had. I consider the fact that people in these times can still somehow think like that and act on it a disaster itself.

Oh yeah also if you're concerned about our government killing people (which you should be), that's not a reason to ignore violence from other people. Or not care about it. Condemn violence in general, not violence from one person/group of people. Fucking shit.

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BobManPerson Wrote:Fuck you.

What if your family or friends had been killed on 9/11? Oh, wait, that's right. Your family hates you and probably don't have many friends. Maybe it's because you're an insensitive asshole who insists that the government did it, or who laughs and tries to look like a rebel? But that's aside the point.

It doesn't matter how many people died, who died, or who did it. 3,000 innocent people were killed that day, and all you assholes can do is say, "it was only 3,000 people, it doesn't matter?" Fuck you.

And those of you who think the government did it disappoint me just as much. Did you not see the planes fly into the buildings? Are you so mentally impaired that you can't understand that when you fly a fucking plane into a fucking building, the building usually collapses? Why not say aliens did it? That's just as much a valid theory as the government. Or why not say the education system did it? Or PETA?

You all make me ashamed. I'm embarrassed to associate myself with you people; you fucking assholes who think it's funny to make fun of a national disaster.

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I thought we already had this EXACT SAME conversation, like three different times.
http://www.school-survival.net/forums/vi...ist+attack

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Absentinsomniac Wrote:I thought we already had this EXACT SAME conversation, like three different times.
http://www.school-survival.net/forums/vi...ist+attack

Lmao our old 9/11 thread.

Just proves that 9/11 has a place in everyone's heart.

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There's like 5 different documentaries on about it right now. Also, is it just me or was there a lack of footage from the various wars we were/are engaged in right now. The public would probably be just as hyped up about the war as 9/11 if there was footage or even enough documentation of it in newspapers and on T.V.

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Absentinsomniac Wrote:There's like 5 different documentaries on about it right now. Also, is it just me or was there a lack of footage from the various wars we were/are engaged in right now. The public would probably be just as hyped up about the war as 9/11 if there was footage or even enough documentation of it in newspapers and on T.V.
They think we can't handle it. Plus, if there was a fuss about it, they'd HAVE to bring the troops home. PLUS, with past wars, they don't want to seem like dicks.

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Absentinsomniac Wrote:There's like 5 different documentaries on about it right now. Also, is it just me or was there a lack of footage from the various wars we were/are engaged in right now. The public would probably be just as hyped up about the war as 9/11 if there was footage or even enough documentation of it in newspapers and on T.V.
Media coverage raises opposition. You always see pictures of dead soldiers, The battle field form wars like WWII and Vietnam but nowadays if you try to publish a picture of a dead soldier you get sued.
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BobManPerson Wrote:Fuck you.

What if your family or friends had been killed on 9/11? Oh, wait, that's right. Your family hates you and probably don't have many friends. Maybe it's because you're an insensitive asshole who insists that the government did it, or who laughs and tries to look like a rebel? But that's aside the point.

It doesn't matter how many people died, who died, or who did it. 3,000 innocent people were killed that day, and all you assholes can do is say, "it was only 3,000 people, it doesn't matter?" Fuck you.

And those of you who think the government did it disappoint me just as much. Did you not see the planes fly into the buildings? Are you so mentally impaired that you can't understand that when you fly a fucking plane into a fucking building, the building usually collapses? Why not say aliens did it? That's just as much a valid theory as the government. Or why not say the education system did it? Or PETA?

You all make me ashamed. I'm embarrassed to associate myself with you people; you fucking assholes who think it's funny to make fun of a national disaster.

I (and I cannot believe these words are coming from my mouth) agree with BobManPerson on this. You don't have to sob uncontrollably every year on 9/11 but for fuck's sake you don't have to try and impress everyone by talking about it in a way that would be really disturbing to anyone who lost friends or family to it. Saying "there have been larger tragedies than 9/11 so it doesn't matter" is like saying that no war or genocide since the Holocaust should be paid any attention because it's not the worst thing that's ever happened.
Besides, it's blatantly hypocritical. The same people saying 9/11 doesn't matter flip out when they see a video of ONE KID being murdered in a behavior modification camp. What the hell, guys? It's just one guy, who gives a shit? This OBJECTIVELY PROVES that you're not really expressing a philosophical belief, you're just attempting to sound like the world-weary, nonconforming badass by reacting to a tragedy in a way that's different than how must people do.

So I'll lay it out for you: 9/11 mattered then and it continues to matter now. It's been involved in literally every political even in America (and a lot of the world) that's taken place since. Religious fanatics, the people that everyone here claims to hate so much, killed 3,000 innocent civilians who had nothing to do with the American imperial war machine and didn't deserve it. And for people who did lose someone close to them, ten years isn't really that much time. So get over yourselves, deflate your ego a bit, and show a little fucking respect. If anything, at least fake it in case there's someone here who lost a person they cared about.

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Better yet, if you don't give a shit, don't post about it. It just causes unnecessary bickering.

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I don't have a problem with people mentioning it, it's just that this seems to be the ONLY thing we care about. We don't even give a shit about any other tragedy. We sweep it under the rug like it's nothing.

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BobManPerson Wrote:Fuck you.

What if your family or friends had been killed on 9/11? Oh, wait, that's right. Your family hates you and probably don't have many friends. Maybe it's because you're an insensitive asshole who insists that the government did it, or who laughs and tries to look like a rebel? But that's aside the point.

It doesn't matter how many people died, who died, or who did it. 3,000 innocent people were killed that day, and all you assholes can do is say, "it was only 3,000 people, it doesn't matter?" Fuck you.

And those of you who think the government did it disappoint me just as much. Did you not see the planes fly into the buildings? Are you so mentally impaired that you can't understand that when you fly a fucking plane into a fucking building, the building usually collapses? Why not say aliens did it? That's just as much a valid theory as the government. Or why not say the education system did it? Or PETA?

You all make me ashamed. I'm embarrassed to associate myself with you people; you fucking assholes who think it's funny to make fun of a national disaster.

I (and I cannot believe these words are coming from my mouth) agree with BobManPerson on this. You don't have to sob uncontrollably every year on 9/11 but for fuck's sake you don't have to try and impress everyone by talking about it in a way that would be really disturbing to anyone who lost friends or family to it. Saying "there have been larger tragedies than 9/11 so it doesn't matter" is like saying that no war or genocide since the Holocaust should be paid any attention because it's not the worst thing that's ever happened.
Besides, it's blatantly hypocritical. The same people saying 9/11 doesn't matter flip out when they see a video of ONE KID being murdered in a behavior modification camp. What the hell, guys? It's just one guy, who gives a shit? This OBJECTIVELY PROVES that you're not really expressing a philosophical belief, you're just attempting to sound like the world-weary, nonconforming badass by reacting to a tragedy in a way that's different than how must people do.

So I'll lay it out for you: 9/11 mattered then and it continues to matter now. It's been involved in literally every political even in America (and a lot of the world) that's taken place since. Religious fanatics, the people that everyone here claims to hate so much, killed 3,000 innocent civilians who had nothing to do with the American imperial war machine and didn't deserve it. And for people who did lose someone close to them, ten years isn't really that much time. So get over yourselves, deflate your ego a bit, and show a little fucking respect. If anything, at least fake it in case there's someone here who lost a person they cared about.

Thats the thing with you people and you never get it through your heads.
NOBODY IS SAYING THIS BULLSHIT TO LOOK FUCKING COOL!
Is that all that comes to you when ever you see somebody not bowing their heads to what you all want?

As for you last paragraph I could say the same thing to you and to bobman.
Get over yourselves.

Why should anybody else give a fuck and act the way you two want us too?
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HeartofShadows Wrote:Thats the thing with you people and you never get it through your heads.
NOBODY IS SAYING THIS BULLSHIT TO LOOK FUCKING COOL!
Is that all that comes to you when ever you see somebody not bowing their heads to what you all want?
Then how about actually responding instead of just repeating the same thing you've always said? How about explaining, in simple terms, why we should feel bad about a relatively tiny number of deaths related to school and boot camps that have happened even earlier than 9/11, but shouldn't care about the deaths of 3,000? Seriously, explain it. Because I really am curious. Either you people are lying to look cool or you're just completely irrational.

Quote:As for you last paragraph I could say the same thing to you and to bobman.
Get over yourselves.
That doesn't even make sense. This isn't about any one of us, it's about really important and terrible thing that happened. Why is that so hard to understand?

Quote:Why should anybody else give a fuck and act the way you two want us too?
Go ahead feel important with your I'm in the right and moral attitude.
I'm saying that people shouldn't laugh about a national tragedy when there are still many people around who lost friends and family in it. If that doesn't put me on the moral high ground here, you have a very strange sense of right and wrong.

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Jesus fucking Christ I'm not saying I don't care because it makes me look like a cool cat. I don't care because it's fucking irrelevent to me. Whenever you decide someone isn't living up to your superior moral values you decide they must be doing it to attract attention to themselves which is fucking bullshit. Some people really just don't give a fuck.
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Aaaaand I doth declare September 11th the annual "split the forums apart" day.

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Why did people who knew they would be offended enter the thread in the first place? It's title is in an obviously mocking tone.
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In fact, why did we even MAKE this thread? We KNOW it only causes stress, fighting, and grief. But we do it ANYWAY. Every damn year.

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