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I'm curious, SS. What do you think a genius is, or what traits do you see in a genius?
I'm tired of people assuming high grades=high intelligence. Bullshit. Too many people think a high SAT score means they're smart.
For me, a genius is something with an innate ability at something, someone who loves a topic so much they put in all the work to develop their research. Or with a skill or something. Also, genius is, in a way, expertise. Again, someone who dedicates years crafting their skills and perfecting their knowledge.
A genius is not someone who has obtained mass amounts of knowledge, a genius is someone who has brain power or some exceptional skill. It is someone who can create "genius grade artwork" or is the best in their field. You could call someone a genius if they have achieved a level at which not very many or no one has ever gotten to in a certain field. Sometimes genius is used as an opinion. I can think that guy is a genius at what he does, and another guy may think he is shit.
Absentinsomniac Wrote:A genius is not someone who has obtained mass amounts of knowledge, a genius is someone who has brain power or some exceptional skill. It is someone who can create "genius grade artwork" or is the best in their field. You could call someone a genius if they have achieved a level at which not very many or no one has ever gotten to in a certain field. Sometimes genius is used as an opinion. I can think that guy is a genius at what he does, and another guy may think he is shit.
And stuff. I'm to tired to continue this.
I would figure this but then again I would have to admit those people in mensa are geniuses and that is far from the case(I don't believe holding alot of information qualifies you as being some genius). This right here reminds me of a what does it take to be unique argument I had with somebody I was discussing it with the day before yesterday.
I honestly wouldn't know but genius is to easily used nowadays very much like the label unique.
I think there's too many different "intelligences" and it's too much of a grey area to easily categorise people.
What's the point of defining a genius anyway? Who cares? Only reasons I see are giving people a false sense of superiority, arrogance and labelling and isolating kids from each other.
psychopath Wrote:I think there's too many different "intelligences" and it's too much of a grey area to easily categorise people.
What's the point of defining a genius anyway? Who cares? Only reasons I see are giving people a false sense of superiority, arrogance and labelling and isolating kids from each other.
Amen Psychopath.
Maybe true geniuses aren't ment to be understood and what if we had one anyway?
They would try to use him to benefit human kind and decide their choices for em anyway.
psychopath Wrote:I think there's too many different "intelligences" and it's too much of a grey area to easily categorise people.
What's the point of defining a genius anyway? Who cares? Only reasons I see are giving people a false sense of superiority, arrogance and labelling and isolating kids from each other.
Amen Psychopath.
Maybe true geniuses aren't ment to be understood and what if we had one anyway?
They would try to use him to benefit human kind and decide their choices for em anyway.
Believe it or not, Psychopath, defining a genius was actually my first assignment in AP Biology this year. I was in a bad mood that day and when the teacher called on me to give my input, I replied, "How should I know? I'm not a genius." We had to read some article and answer six long questions on the subject, including graphing some of them. It was incredibly stupid. My biology teacher defines genius as a "good student," or someone like herself, who really isn't exposed much to the real world and thinks memorizing a lot of biology and talking down to us like 5 year olds.
To me, genius is a lot of things, a combination of natural skill and hard work, no matter what the subject area is. And yes, Heart of Shadows, I agree completely. This is why people look down on "smart, lazy people" who don't succeed in school because they're afraid they won't be able to use them as guinea pigs later.
genuine anarchist Wrote:Believe it or not, Psychopath, defining a genius was actually my first assignment in AP Biology this year. I was in a bad mood that day and when the teacher called on me to give my input, I replied, "How should I know? I'm not a genius." We had to read some article and answer six long questions on the subject, including graphing some of them. It was incredibly stupid. My biology teacher defines genius as a "good student," or someone like herself, who really isn't exposed much to the real world and thinks memorizing a lot of biology and talking down to us like 5 year olds.
To me, genius is a lot of things, a combination of natural skill and hard work, no matter what the subject area is. And yes, Heart of Shadows, I agree completely. This is why people look down on "smart, lazy people" who don't succeed in school because they're afraid they won't be able to use them as guinea pigs later.
Heh you should of told you teacher that it doesn't take much intelligence to become a teacher and its basically a little higher than being a janitor. Anyway to me when I hear genius I think something that can't be understood, or something outside the realm of standard thought(maybe I give the term to much credit),
I mean alot of people see Albert Einstein as being a genius(vast majority) despite his ignored short comings but I don't really see him as one(sure he accomplished things I'll admit).
As for the last thing is it a wonder so many smart people were depressed, nihilistic or lazy?
BobManPerson Wrote:I'm a genius, the IQ test I took online said my IQ is 125.
Cool story bob.
My IQ is 165. ←OH YES, suck it nigger
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Max Stirnir Wrote:"In the time of spirits thoughts grew till they overtopped my head, whose offspring they yet were; they hovered about me and convulsed me like fever-phantasies -- an awful power. The thoughts had become corporeal on their own account, were ghosts, e. g. God, Emperor, Pope, Fatherland, etc. If I destroy their corporeity, then I take them back into mine, and say: "I alone am corporeal." And now I take the world as what it is to me, as mine, as my property; I refer all to myself."The Ego and Its Own, pg. 15
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Lukas Foss Wrote:That is why the analogy of stealing does not work. With a thief, we want to know how much money he stole, and from whom. With the artist it is not how much he took and from whom, but what he did with it.
I think a genius is someone who can compose completely original thoughts and solutions based on no past information.
for an extremely general example: Someone who looks at a piece of paper and makes an airplane without ever having seen something fly or having ever touched paper before.
Vatman Wrote:I think a genius is someone who can compose completely original thoughts and solutions based on no past information.
for an extremely general example: Someone who looks at a piece of paper and makes an airplane without ever having seen something fly or having ever touched paper before.
I'd say that's still based on some information, eg they would have to know how the paper will interact with the atmosphere before making the plane, otherwise they wouldn't know what shape to make it, whether it can float etc. If they don't at least know something about paper or the air then it would have to be a trial and error method.
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