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John Green on Middle School Misery
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John Green on Middle School Misery

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u90dGnKhhlk


Watch on YouTube

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(11-20-2013 10:13 PM)Night Wrote:  

Watch on YouTube
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So now my question to you is, why did you put the url tags and the youtube tags?

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Very good roundup on bullying. Kids often become bullies not necessarily because they want to be bullies, but they feel they must put their abuse on others, which is unfortunate.

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RE: John Green on Middle School Misery

Glad to see a fellow nerdfighter on SS! That was an awesome video, I was busy today so I missed it. Thank you!
The voice over was a little weird though, lol.
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(11-21-2013 12:11 AM)Heil_Kaiba8921 Wrote:  So now my question to you is, why did you put the url tags and the youtube tags?

Becuase that's my thing. I feel weird not doing it. But thank you for derailing the point of this thread to criticize me for my method of posting. -_-

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RE: John Green on Middle School Misery

For the YouTube tags to work, you need just the video code after v= between the youtube tags.

But yeah, this is a very good video, and it's worth discussing. I liked the voiceover approach. People tend to spend a fair amount of time thinking or reflecting at times, where the thoughts never get recorded or put into a format for discussion.

Anyway... where to begin?

Why must the cycle of misery continue? Note that John Green didn't specifically address the problem of school itself (beyond bullying) in much detail. Maybe that could be the topic of a future video. Note, he said he wasn't such a great student.

For many of us, one of the biggest sources of misery in school is the boredom, grades, and punishments that come from some combination of school structure and parents, all based on this one-size-fits-all, do-what-you're-told model of education.

Bullying is a huge problem, as well, but it's just one part of the equation for many people.

Meanwhile, as some of the comments indicate, some people liked their experience of school and growing up, and have trouble imagining why others are so miserable. I think this gap is one of the biggest blocking factors to change: a lot of people just don't understand the level of distress and alienation many others feel.

And yet, it's almost a cliche to hate school, and many people consider it something you just have to do, which is worth it in the end.

How can we break out of this cycle, though... where people are growing up, retaining their memories and criticism of school, and making the reality of the various problems even more clear than ever?

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I can imagine a lot of those people that loved school probably weren't socially awkward and had personalities that could easily blend in the school environment.

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