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You gonna try this Zomberall drug!
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Wink You gonna try this Zomberall drug!

[video=youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cf_d9E4qN2g[/video]
The video is made by Laurie A. Couture and her son Brycen R. R. Couture. The lady was one of the experts featured in The War on Kids.



Hello. I am a undergraduate college student majoring in child development. I'm a big fan of Peter Gray and Alfie Kohn's work. I have a passion for working(playing) with kids but have absolutely no interest in dominating their learning. The more I learn about child development, the more I hate to "teach." I've spent two years working with kids and seen they're naturally curious and capable to be amazing on their own. My ultimate goal is to work in democratic schools. Smile
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RE: You gonna try this Zomberall drug!

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Hello, traveler.

This is an ancient account I have not used in a long time. My views have changed much in the intervening months and years.

Nonetheless, I refuse to clean it up. Pretending that I've held my current views since the beginning of time is what we in the industry call a lie. Asking people to do so contributes to moralistic self-loathing. "See, those people have nothing damning! I do! I'm truly vile!"

Because you can never be a good person with a single blemish on the moral record, I thought that simply entertaining some thoughts made me irredeemable. Though I don't care for his writing style, William Faulkner presents a good counterexample. He went from being a typical Southern racist to supporting the civil rights movement. These days we'd yell at him for that, probably.

People are allowed to change their views.

Nevertheless, this period of my life has informed some of how I am today. In good ways and bad ways. To purge it would be to do a disservice to history. Perhaps it will not make anyone sympathetic, but it may help someone understand.

If, after reading all this, you still decide to use the post above as evidence that I am evil today, ask yourself if you have never disagreed with the moral code you now follow. In all likelihood you did, at some point. If some questions are verboten, and the answer is "how dare you ask that," don't expect your ideological opponents to ever change their minds.
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RE: You gonna try this Zomberall drug!

(10-30-2013 10:25 AM)planetfall666 Wrote:  String job = "good";
difference.make();

Wat? Wut? What?
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I like that.

Assuming that your video, I went a watched a few more.
Really nice, I like them.

Especially the ones with the "therapy" sessions xD
I could really relate to those ones.

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(10-30-2013 04:35 PM)oku Wrote:  
(10-30-2013 10:25 AM)planetfall666 Wrote:  String job = "good";
difference.make();

Wat? Wut? What?

Good job. Go make a difference.

Hello, traveler.

This is an ancient account I have not used in a long time. My views have changed much in the intervening months and years.

Nonetheless, I refuse to clean it up. Pretending that I've held my current views since the beginning of time is what we in the industry call a lie. Asking people to do so contributes to moralistic self-loathing. "See, those people have nothing damning! I do! I'm truly vile!"

Because you can never be a good person with a single blemish on the moral record, I thought that simply entertaining some thoughts made me irredeemable. Though I don't care for his writing style, William Faulkner presents a good counterexample. He went from being a typical Southern racist to supporting the civil rights movement. These days we'd yell at him for that, probably.

People are allowed to change their views.

Nevertheless, this period of my life has informed some of how I am today. In good ways and bad ways. To purge it would be to do a disservice to history. Perhaps it will not make anyone sympathetic, but it may help someone understand.

If, after reading all this, you still decide to use the post above as evidence that I am evil today, ask yourself if you have never disagreed with the moral code you now follow. In all likelihood you did, at some point. If some questions are verboten, and the answer is "how dare you ask that," don't expect your ideological opponents to ever change their minds.
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(10-30-2013 05:46 PM)Night Wrote:  I like that.

Assuming that your video, I went a watched a few more.
Really nice, I like them.

Especially the ones with the "therapy" sessions xD
I could really relate to those ones.

Oh no. It's not my video. It is made by Laurie A. Couture and her son Brycen R. R. Couture. They're advocates for rights of youths and unschooling movement. She's one of the experts featured in The War on Kids.


[video=youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6WXl2kAG7Q[/video]

Dr. Peter Gray invites you to share your inputs to the Tipping Point Project to help create a robust resource for families looking to walk away from coercive schooling.
http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/free...ping-point
It is time to stop this madness. It is time to stop accepting diagnoses of mental disorders for those of our children who can’t or won’t sit still through tedious, irrelevant, timewasting, anxiety-producing, depression-inducing assignments and tests. It is time to stop praising children who are willing to sit through all this, because all we foster with such praise is conformity, passivity, mindless obedience, and false pride for meaningless accomplishments. It’s time to just say no.
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Still very nice Smile

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RE: You gonna try this Zomberall drug!

I'm on Concerta, which is a delayed release form of Adderall, and it's not that bad. I do focus more an I do better work. Though there are several drawbacks;

1. I have a shorter temper, but it's managable if I'm able to stop what I'm doing and calm down.

2. I get "foggy" in my mind. This is diminished when I have caffiene, so it's fine as long as I have soda.

3. I forget to eat. I get so wrapped up in what I'm doing that I don't know when I'm hungry. There have been a couple of occasions where I don't haveanything until dinner. This is by far the worst one.

Do I want to be on it? No. Can I live with it? Yeah, whatever.

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RE: You gonna try this Zomberall drug!

Welcome to the forum. Most parents and psychiatrists are confusing kids being bored with the mind-numbing work that they have to do in school with ADHD, and I think it's really sad that they are forced to take drugs that they don't need.

Who am I? Who are YOU?
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