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Autism Isn't a Disease

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Quote:Before I go, it's also okay to say "retard". Me, and most of the kids I've come with autism and various other mental disorders don't mind.
If you're referring to the people who are actually seriously disabled like that, the neutral term is "Intellectually disabled". At least with this term its alot longer thus will probably avoid the euphemism treadmill...maybe. But, you should never use "retard" as an insult, it's genuinely disparaging to those who are ID. Same goes for using "autistic" as an insult. This is not normal, this is not acceptable, this is bigotry.

(02-12-2015 10:11 AM)Sociopath Wrote:  
Quote:Before I go, it's also okay to say "retard". Me, and most of the kids I've come with autism and various other mental disorders don't mind.
If you're referring to the people who are actually seriously disabled like that, the neutral term is "Intellectually disabled". At least with this term its alot longer thus will probably avoid the euphemism treadmill...maybe. But, you should never use "retard" as an insult, it's genuinely disparaging to those who are ID. Same goes for using "autistic" as an insult. This is not normal, this is not acceptable, this is bigotry.




Something culturally I noticed about autism is that unlike other stereotypes, it seems to alternate rather than stick to a single set. It alternates between "retard" chris chan-esque, anti-social psychopath school shooters, and genius level einstein.

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I'm socially inept. I have trouble maintaining relationships. I waste so much time obsessing over stupid bullshit. I dont know how to deal with my various emotional states. I'll be damned if it isn't a disease and I'll be damned if I don't want a fucking cure. I hate the way I am. I absolutely HATE it. I would give anything to be a neurotypical. Anything. Stop acting like its a fantastic thing and like its something to be "proud of". Its really not. Stop romanticizing a disease. Okay? Okay.
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(02-13-2015 01:04 AM)JenniMiller Wrote:  I'm socially inept. I have trouble maintaining relationships. I waste so much time obsessing over stupid bullshit. I dont know how to deal with my various emotional states. I'll be damned if it isn't a disease and I'll be damned if I don't want a fucking cure. I hate the way I am. I absolutely HATE it. I would give anything to be a neurotypical. Anything. Stop acting like its a fantastic thing and like its something to be "proud of". Its really not. Stop romanticizing a disease. Okay? Okay.
Maybe you have other problems external to your autism. I'm pretty sure not everyone with autism has these problems so severely. And, seeing as a diagnosis makes them a special snowflake and gives them a tribe to be part of, I can imagine they'd be proud of it as most humans are proud of their tribal affiliations.

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(02-13-2015 01:04 AM)JenniMiller Wrote:  I'm socially inept. I have trouble maintaining relationships. I waste so much time obsessing over stupid bullshit. I dont know how to deal with my various emotional states. I'll be damned if it isn't a disease and I'll be damned if I don't want a fucking cure. I hate the way I am. I absolutely HATE it. I would give anything to be a neurotypical. Anything. Stop acting like its a fantastic thing and like its something to be "proud of". Its really not. Stop romanticizing a disease. Okay? Okay.

Firstly it is not a disease, and secondly you don't even know if you have autism. If you really wanna know, go to a psychologist/psychiatrist and also get a brain scan.

Quote:Maybe you have other problems external to your autism. I'm pretty sure not everyone with autism has these problems so severely. And, seeing as a diagnosis makes them a special snowflake and gives them a tribe to be part of, I can imagine they'd be proud of it as most humans are proud of their tribal affiliations.
You'd best be joking wigger.

Don't lump people in like that, I for one am striving to show that autistics are equal with non-autistics but at the same time, objectivity must be reached, and we can use statistics to tell us that. But don't run off saying we're all a big tribe centered around a diagnosis.

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Max Stirnir Wrote:"In the time of spirits thoughts grew till they overtopped my head, whose offspring they yet were; they hovered about me and convulsed me like fever-phantasies -- an awful power. The thoughts had become corporeal on their own account, were ghosts, e. g. God, Emperor, Pope, Fatherland, etc. If I destroy their corporeity, then I take them back into mine, and say: "I alone am corporeal." And now I take the world as what it is to me, as mine, as my property; I refer all to myself." The Ego and Its Own, pg. 15
Charles Manson Wrote:“Look down at me and you see a fool;
look up at me and you see a god;
look straight at me and you see yourself”
HeartofShadows Wrote:"Life is nothing more than a druggie trying to get their quick fix of happiness while dealing with the harsh withdrawal of reality"
Osip Mandelstam Wrote:"I divide all of world literature into authorized and unauthorized works. The former are all trash; the latter--stolen air. I want to spit in the face of every writer who first obtains permission and then writes." The Fourth Prose, 1930.
Lukas Foss Wrote:That is why the analogy of stealing does not work. With a thief, we want to know how much money he stole, and from whom. With the artist it is not how much he took and from whom, but what he did with it.
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(02-13-2015 01:04 AM)JenniMiller Wrote:  I'm socially inept. I have trouble maintaining relationships. I waste so much time obsessing over stupid bullshit. I dont know how to deal with my various emotional states. I'll be damned if it isn't a disease and I'll be damned if I don't want a fucking cure. I hate the way I am. I absolutely HATE it. I would give anything to be a neurotypical. Anything. Stop acting like its a fantastic thing and like its something to be "proud of". Its really not. Stop romanticizing a disease. Okay? Okay.

May I have a word with JenniMiller?

First, Jenni, as Sociopath pointed out, there's no sure guarantee that you have autism. Were you ever diagnosed? Did you ever see a therapist/psychiatrist? What were their evaluations and recommendations to your parents? Were you/are you in special education?

Second, autism isn't a disease. A disease is something that can be caught, and spread. Autism, Asperger syndrome, etc genetic features, like eye color, etc. There have been many, many attempts to link the supposed "epidemic of autism" with specific trends (i.e. pollution, vaccine, gluten), but these are all very flimsy, if not false, because autism and other similar disorders/whatever have been only known in detail since the early 20th century, and that's partly due to the fact that the lifestyle we have today has only existed since the mid to late 19th century, hence the discovery. Before, it was impossible to know if anyone had autism, especially given that social norms and ways of life were completely different in previous time periods, so there may have been no distinguishable way of telling a so-called "autistic" from an "NT", in say, the Middle Ages or the Renaissance. I have no idea about any "documentations" of autism during this time, but it's probably flimsy since they'd be very vague and over-lap with many other disorders.

Third, no one is "romanticizing" autism. In fact, that would be absolute news if it were. Autism and related genetic features (because fuck it) have actually been portrayed in an absolute negative life since there has been more awareness ("retard", and "autistic" are insults, for example), especially due to organizations such as Autism Speaks. I practically face discrimination every day for autism, and every official diagnosis classifies it as a "disorder" that must be "immediately be treated". I was forced through years of ABA that was ineffective, and late last year a speech teacher attempted to show a presentation in my class of how autistic brains work, but I'm almost certain it would've been in a negative light. The so-called "romanticism" is actually rebellion by real autistic people who feel the need to fight against the misconceptions that humanity has today about their "disabilities"; in essence, it's a counter-culture. It's at least parallel to say, the homosexual rights movement that began in the 60s and has had a tremendous amount of success. There are autistic people who lead very happy lives, and wouldn't want to be cured. I'm one of them.

Fourth, it's ridiculous to blame autism for all your problems. Jenni, you need to re-evaluate your life and look at the options you have. Blaming one thing on everything won't help you, because not only will it not even get to the root causes, but it gives you a sense of defeatism. If you were made neurotypical, it's sort of like using acne products to cover up your face. You've found a treatment, great, but it's only really going to mask the issues that actually lurk. I'd guarantee you'd still have plenty of issues if you were an NT (if you are/aren't).

What I can recommend is that you start trying to improve your life. Visit the School Survival IRC, for example. Check out the forum (wrong planet) on my sig. It's a great place for autistic people to go onto, because it's so friendly for autistic people. I've been dealing with plenty of issues in my life and a lot of them still continue, but I've done a lot of things to make my life better (such as exercise, better eating, etc). I know that if I were neurotypical, things really wouldn't be a whole lot different.

Hope I've helped and brought a degree of explanation.

(02-13-2015 01:20 AM)Weswammy Wrote:  Maybe you have other problems external to your autism. I'm pretty sure not everyone with autism has these problems so severely. And, seeing as a diagnosis makes them a special snowflake and gives them a tribe to be part of, I can imagine they'd be proud of it as most humans are proud of their tribal affiliations.

Wes, you'd be right. Not all autistic people have the same problems. Simple as that. As I explained before, there are probably a lot of external factors to Jenni's issues.

I'm not going into the pride/tribe comment that Wes made. Not because I'm offended, but because I have very mixed opinions on his "tribe" and "pride" point that I don't need to go into again.

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(02-13-2015 01:04 AM)JenniMiller Wrote:  I have trouble maintaining relationships.

If you don't like a person, go away instead of buying into that "relationship" nonsense.

(02-13-2015 01:04 AM)JenniMiller Wrote:  I waste so much time obsessing over stupid bullshit.

Maybe you have a mind virus? Try to forget whatever you are obsessing about.

(02-13-2015 01:04 AM)JenniMiller Wrote:  I dont know how to deal with my various emotional states.

Possibilities:
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  2. Medication you take is messing up your emotions

(02-13-2015 01:04 AM)JenniMiller Wrote:  I'll be damned if it isn't a disease and I'll be damned if I don't want a fucking cure. I hate the way I am. I absolutely HATE it. I would give anything to be a neurotypical. Anything. Stop acting like its a fantastic thing and like its something to be "proud of". Its really not. Stop romanticizing a disease. Okay? Okay.

Autism doesn't exist. Try finding the real cause of your problems.

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Autism's already been proven to exist. So unless you have proof that completely destroys the psychological and medical communities you have no bearing on the subject.

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Osip Mandelstam Wrote:"I divide all of world literature into authorized and unauthorized works. The former are all trash; the latter--stolen air. I want to spit in the face of every writer who first obtains permission and then writes." The Fourth Prose, 1930.
Lukas Foss Wrote:That is why the analogy of stealing does not work. With a thief, we want to know how much money he stole, and from whom. With the artist it is not how much he took and from whom, but what he did with it.
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I have autism and my mum keeps calling me sick even after she was told by my school that autism is not a disease. I find it offensive.

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oh and also No one has any rights. We're free, rights create invisible restrictions. But we live in a society where the majority accepts rights to be true.
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(04-22-2017 06:33 AM)Marlena403 Wrote:  I have autism and my mum keeps calling me sick even after she was told by my school that autism is not a disease. I find it offensive.

Well the school probably isn't helping much to be honest.

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