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I wasn't good enough at encouraging people to be kinder, and removing people who refuse to be kind. Encouraging people is hard, and removing people creates conflict, and I hate conflict... so that's why I wasn't better at it.

I was a very, very sensitive teen. The atmosphere of this forum as it is now, if it had existed in 1996, would probably have upset me far more than it would have helped.

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I'm still figuring out the best way to do that, but as it is now, these forums are doing more harm than good, and I can't keep running them.

Thank you to the few people who have tried to understand my point of view so far. I really, really appreciate you guys. You are beautiful people.

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FuckTheSystem here...

Well, crap. It's been quite a few years since I was on these forums. I graduated from independent study last year, and after I got put in Independent Study, i felt like i didn't need this site anymore.

But I forgot what a great site it is and how much information is here, and all the users are pretty nice, at least in my past experience. So, I decided to come back, maybe to inspire or help those who are struggling with the same issues I was up until about 4 and a half years ago.

I guess my experiences and the thoughts of those experiences got rehashed, so to speak when I made plans to attend college in February. I don't think it's gonna happen, but, long story short, I gotta tell everybody it is going to happen in order to get prescribed my Adderall again, which I've been without for a year. It is the reason I passed me exit exams in April of 2012. Did it two days, within two hours each day, and ended up passing, and it was all thanks to Addy. Shit, I didn't study or anything.

Anyways, maybe some of you will remember me. But if not, Hey, it's Steven, heh.
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FuckTheSystem here...

Hi! I'm relatively new (One year lurking, one year posting.), so I don't remember you. And yes, we're still pretty nice.

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We've had a lot of fun, guys.
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RE: FuckTheSystem here...

Welcome back!

I started posting here when I was last in college... before I dropped out. There's a lot more overlap between issues in secondary school and college than may be obvious. I think there are better ways to do learning.

I've been here on and off over the years, but lately I've been posting here a lot. Changing education, and people's experience of learning and making sense of life, is really a life goal for me. It's a tough problem, but a lot has been changing over the past few years. There's still a big disconnect for a lot of people, though.

What are your plans now? What might you do in college? (There are a lot of alternative ways to learn, now, in case you're not aware... Saying No To College.

I'm working to build a new kind of learning environment with all the content I've collected (and continue to collect.) Fortunately, a lot of educators are on board with this, but it still seems rare for conversations between unhappy students and people in their lives to work out.

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