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To everyone who joined these forums at some point, and got discouraged by the negativity and left after a while (or even got literally scared off): I'm sorry.

I wasn't good enough at encouraging people to be kinder, and removing people who refuse to be kind. Encouraging people is hard, and removing people creates conflict, and I hate conflict... so that's why I wasn't better at it.

I was a very, very sensitive teen. The atmosphere of this forum as it is now, if it had existed in 1996, would probably have upset me far more than it would have helped.

I can handle quite a lot of negativity and even abuse now, but that isn't the point. I want to help people. I want to help the people who need it the most, and I want to help people like the 1996 version of me.

I'm still figuring out the best way to do that, but as it is now, these forums are doing more harm than good, and I can't keep running them.

Thank you to the few people who have tried to understand my point of view so far. I really, really appreciate you guys. You are beautiful people.

Everyone else: If after everything I've said so far, you still don't understand my motivations, I think it's unlikely that you will. We're just too different. Maybe someday in the future it might make sense, but until then, there's no point in arguing about it. I don't have the time or the energy for arguing anymore. I will focus my time and energy on people who support me, and those who need help.

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I'd say if you really hate school that bad, I think it's time for one thing: drop out, and get home schooled. See what you and your family can do. It seems your mom is competent, so maybe she may be able to support you.

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Keep talking with your psychologist, he sounds like a nice person. I had a few, some were good and some were bad. The good ones were those you could feel a real connection to.
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I'm interested in applying psychology to helping people solve problems and improve their lives, too. I dropped out of high school, then dropped out of college several times... because I've found that I wasn't learning very effectively in those programs. There are lots of tools to learn in other ways. The tough part can be connecting with people and forging a path outside of mainstream professions. It can be done... it just takes a different set of strategies.

I've posted a lot of walls of text around here... most of them full of videos and links. I'm in the process of adapting these into a course... one that's more interactive and conversation-based than usual. In the meantime, forum threads one one of many places to have learning conversations.

Check out my comment about ADHD and mood here for some related videos... I went to the psychiatrist yesterday

And...check out SoulRiser's post, Parody Skit of Clueless Psychiatrist Misdiagnosing Teen

And I just posted some videos on the recent thread The change of kids you might find interesting.

If any of those are helpful, let me know... I'm trying to figure out what's worth showing to more people.

If you want even more to read and watch, try this thread: Tomorrow -.-

Btw, what did your psychologist do or say that you found helpful? Are any of the people at your school open to doing things differently? (Maybe not likely, but some people find this to be the case.)

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(10-02-2013 08:51 AM)Hansgrohe Wrote:  I'd say if you really hate school that bad, I think it's time for one thing: drop out, and get home schooled. See what you and your family can do. It seems your mom is competent, so maybe she may be able to support you.

Erm...homeschooling is banned in Germany.

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I usually don't even bother to read huge walls of text lke this, but for some reason this one stuck out.

(10-02-2013 08:20 AM)LargeFG777 Wrote:  Literally everyone around me... I know they are more cheerful than I am, I am just a lonely piece of fucking shit that again, no one wants to be together with. Every break, I am walking around the schoolyard like a lonely emo or something. And while I am not being bullied, I get annoyed by others insanely fast... people telling sex jokes, little respectless 5th graders who I desperately want to shove my foot up their chins... and bleed... What else? Schoolmates that pretends they are nice to me, but do not give a shit about my true feelings... can you follow me with that somehow...? A girlfriend? Pfft, I am so fucking certain that no one of those sluts wants to even come near to me...Noo
Story of my life. I'm the same really, except I don't walk around, I sit down and listen to music with my MP3 player. Try it. It really passes the time. Unless of course your school is bitchy about bringing gizmos, in which case you're screwed.

(10-02-2013 08:20 AM)LargeFG777 Wrote:  Right now, I am thinking of studying Psychology myself. And no, not the shitty way that schools think they can do better! Fuck this fucking shit, I will teach it MYSELF! Everything is possible when you really want to do it.

Yes! Perfect attitude. In my opinion, anyway. I had an interest in computers and studied that by myself -- as I wasn't learning enough/anything interesting in my school IT class. I find it a lot easier to learn on my own than in some cramped classroom with a bunch of loud idiots who end up holding the class back anyway. Plus, if you decide to go on to study psychology at university, you'll have a head start! That's always great, right? Biggrin
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Homeschooling is banned in Germany. A remnant of the Nazi Regime ironically. Recently the German government kidnapped children from a family who dared to educate their kids themselves. It is funny (to me) to see Germany imitating Nazi behavior when they otherwise try to distance themselves so much.

Anyway, you might have to do what I had to do... stick it out. I now study Psychology in college and will use my degree to hopefully advance an actual school changing movement. Basically rebuilding it.

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For many of you, school was 12 or more years of teachers and administrators deciding what was best for you, dictating exactly how you spent every minute of every day -- the result being that you absolutely hated each and every one of those minutes. But as you reached adulthood, you probably came to the realization that it was all for the best. You were just a stupid kid, after all, and your elders did things a certain way for a reason.

That reason being that they were full of shit. Science is just now taking a closer look at these centuries-old school practices, and they're finding out that ...

Read more >>> 5 Things It Turns Out You Were Right to Hate About School
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I've had the symptoms of inattentive ADHD at many points. I still do in various ways, but I know what I can work on where I'm focused and find things interesting.

Thanks to the Internet, much of the content you might find in whole university programs, in psychology and otherwise, is available to find and learn from. I'm interested in pulling some of that into better formats for people to learn from, without having to spend years disengaged and all that.

There's still the question of how to apply that knowledge. There's certainly lots of need out there.

Did you happen to check out the threads I linked to? Any feedback?

Maybe you could find out what your classmates are interested in, and introduce them to some of what you find in your searches through the web. This is one thing that's really transforming education... learners being able to make more of their own learning decisions (at least on their own time), and then sharing what they find in whatever format they want. In other words, the learner becomes a teacher.

You even demonstrated that with counseling your classmates. It's certainly not always going to be that easy, but it's an example of what's possible.

I think you have a lot of potential to transform your "horrible life" into something a lot more interesting and enjoyable. There are a lot of ways to connect with people, especially if you are interested in learning about them and sharing your own perspectives on things.

Here's a talk that gets at how much people are learning these days outside of school... from the author of an ebook called Why School? How Education Must Change When Learning and Information Are Everywhere.



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Question: do you find that inspirational at all? What does the pessimist side of you say about all that?

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Quote:...I would rather go to the Ninth Pit of Hell if it existed, and I would LOVE IT.
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I smell a contradiction. Smile

How many years do you still have left? Are there any other alternatives in Germany? Would a different school possibly be better?

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(10-03-2013 03:05 AM)Ferigeras Wrote:  ...
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Sure. Let's throw logical naming out the window.

Hello, traveler.

This is an ancient account I have not used in a long time. My views have changed much in the intervening months and years.

Nonetheless, I refuse to clean it up. Pretending that I've held my current views since the beginning of time is what we in the industry call a lie. Asking people to do so contributes to moralistic self-loathing. "See, those people have nothing damning! I do! I'm truly vile!"

Because you can never be a good person with a single blemish on the moral record, I thought that simply entertaining some thoughts made me irredeemable. Though I don't care for his writing style, William Faulkner presents a good counterexample. He went from being a typical Southern racist to supporting the civil rights movement. These days we'd yell at him for that, probably.

People are allowed to change their views.

Nevertheless, this period of my life has informed some of how I am today. In good ways and bad ways. To purge it would be to do a disservice to history. Perhaps it will not make anyone sympathetic, but it may help someone understand.

If, after reading all this, you still decide to use the post above as evidence that I am evil today, ask yourself if you have never disagreed with the moral code you now follow. In all likelihood you did, at some point. If some questions are verboten, and the answer is "how dare you ask that," don't expect your ideological opponents to ever change their minds.
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(10-03-2013 08:53 AM)SoulRiser Wrote:  I smell a contradiction. Smile

How many years do you still have left? Are there any other alternatives in Germany? Would a different school possibly be better?

Ok yeah, this was pretty dumb of me, but when I started this thread, I have written it in anger and that resulted in me writing... this.
But I was a bit more calm when I wrote that reply.

I did not even notice it myself.

And about your question, I guess there could be alternatives, but I just have not seen them. All I can see in my country by far, is the direction "everyone" has to go... pah.
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