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Suggestions for Book Club: Second Edition
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Suggestions for Book Club: Second Edition

Come on in out of the cold, take off your pants and jacket, sit by the fire. Tell us what you want to read next month. I'll shove up a poll two weeks from now and we can all decide what we want to discuss together.
08-14-2013 03:25 AM
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RE: Suggestions for Book Club: Second Edition

Suggestions -

Twilight For Life: Finding Meaning in Stephanie Meyer's "Twilight" -- And in Life - By Joel and Ella Emmett

Airman - By Eoin Colfer

The Book Thief - By Markus Zusak

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Quote:Eoin Colfer

And on that note, I'll toss in my personal recommendation:

The Supernaturalist - Eoin Colfer
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Is there some sort of restriction what book it must be? Considering this is SS, this should be quite appropriate:

Lies My Teacher Told Me - James Loewen

Nonfiction though.

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RE: Suggestions for Book Club: Second Edition

Preferably some sort of narrative, though not necessarily fictional. Ideally the book should make some sort of argument towards a point, and there should be techniques and quotes that can be shown to support that argument.
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We the Living by Ayn Rand

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(08-14-2013 04:28 AM)Damokles Wrote:  
Quote:Eoin Colfer

And on that note, I'll toss in my personal recommendation:

The Supernaturalist - Eoin Colfer

Love that book. I read it back in middle school and even now it's just a cool book. I love the cyberpunk-noire kind of setting
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(08-14-2013 08:20 AM)Wes Wrote:  We the Living by Ayn Rand

This is a book club not a pseudo-philosophy for egomaniacs club.

There's nothing wrong with being a self centered dick, but don't try to rationalize it by touting Ayn Rand about like she wrote the damn Bible. No real philosophers take her work seriously because she's a hack.
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Atlas Shrugged. Just skip ahead to the 60-pg monologue radio-broadcast speech part and it'll summarize the whole story.

And in seriousness:No suggestion.

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(08-14-2013 08:20 AM)Wes Wrote:  We the Living by Ayn Rand

This is a book club not a pseudo-philosophy for egomaniacs club.

There's nothing wrong with being a self centered dick, but don't try to rationalize it by touting Ayn Rand about like she wrote the damn Bible. No real philosophers take her work seriously because she's a hack.

Oh give me a break. She's a great novelist, I really like her novels. I'm currently reading The Fountainhead and in a lot of ways it's better than Atlas Shrugged (haven't read We the Living yet). If you'd just take the time to actually read one of the books, I'd suggest Anthem as a starting point, maybe you'd be able to give some actual criticism of it instead of just saying repeating what you've heard about her books.

And I didn't tout her like she wrote the Bible. I'm not an Objectivist. I have quite a few disagreements with her philosophy. I merely recommended the book to be read. I recommend people read all her books, they're really inspiring and interesting.

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I read Anthem. It was...interesting. Haven't read We the Living, and didn't finish The Fountainhead completely, though it was intriguing(read about 90% of it).

Atlas Shrug was fine in the first few hundred pages, but I did feel that things started coming loose at the same moment the plot involved the world becoming some horrendous socialist utopia.

Didn't really see eye to eye with Objectivism, though when I let my friend borrow my copy, he ended becoming a liberalist.

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I suggest you read... a book.

Hello, traveler.

This is an ancient account I have not used in a long time. My views have changed much in the intervening months and years.

Nonetheless, I refuse to clean it up. Pretending that I've held my current views since the beginning of time is what we in the industry call a lie. Asking people to do so contributes to moralistic self-loathing. "See, those people have nothing damning! I do! I'm truly vile!"

Because you can never be a good person with a single blemish on the moral record, I thought that simply entertaining some thoughts made me irredeemable. Though I don't care for his writing style, William Faulkner presents a good counterexample. He went from being a typical Southern racist to supporting the civil rights movement. These days we'd yell at him for that, probably.

People are allowed to change their views.

Nevertheless, this period of my life has informed some of how I am today. In good ways and bad ways. To purge it would be to do a disservice to history. Perhaps it will not make anyone sympathetic, but it may help someone understand.

If, after reading all this, you still decide to use the post above as evidence that I am evil today, ask yourself if you have never disagreed with the moral code you now follow. In all likelihood you did, at some point. If some questions are verboten, and the answer is "how dare you ask that," don't expect your ideological opponents to ever change their minds.
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RE: Suggestions for Book Club: Second Edition

Based purely on the fact that it's my current reading material but: David Copperfield

Then there's stuff like A Christmas Carol (not exactly seasonal but meh)

Or ... you know what? Never mind. Just work your way through this list:




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