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BestGore owner charged with "corrupting morals"
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BestGore owner charged with "corrupting morals"

See also this video:

Canada is taking an archaic law and applying it to BestGore's administrator because they can't pin him with anything else.

Quote:EDMONTON - The owner of an Edmonton-based “real gore” website that prides itself on graphic real-life images has been granted bail after being charged for allegedly posting a video that shows the murder of student Jun Lin by Luka Magnotta last year.

Mark Marek, 38, made a courtroom appearance by closed-circuit television Thursday morning and was granted $7,500 bail. He was expected to be released later in the day.

Police allege Marek received the video in an email from Magnotta himself, then posted it online on his Best Gore website, “knowing the video that was sent to him by Luka Magnotta was depicting a real murder.”

Marek has admitted posting the video, court heard.

The contents of the video are banned from publication by a court order. The video was sent to Marek with the title, “1 lunatic 1 ice pick.”

Through a duty counsel lawyer, Marek claimed that he posted the video “in the public interest” in an attempt to verify whether it was indeed real. He posted the video with the message “Is this real? It seems fake,” said lawyer Guy Doyon.

After being contacted by a Minnesota man who said the video appeared real, Marek contacted police in Ontario, his lawyer said.

“The police, in Mr. Marek’s words, blew him off,” Doyon told court. “He posted this in the public interest. Once it’s even suspected that it’s real, he takes it down.”

Later, Doyon said, Quebec police told Marek to take down the video because it was offensive to Lin’s family.

Prosecutor Julie Roy told court that Marek did not take the video down voluntarily, but was forced to when heavy traffic caused problems with his Best Gore website. He posted a note saying he would put it back up when he could, Roy claimed.

Marek, who is from the former Czechoslovakia, faces a charge of corrupting morals, a rarely used section of Canadian criminal law that deals with the distribution or circulation of “any obscene written matter, picture, model, phonograph record or other thing whatever.”

Shortly after police located Marek early this year, he flew to Hong Kong and investigators lost track of him. Police said Marek is not believed to have known police were searching for him at that time.

Marek was detained by Canadian border officers when he flew back to Canada on July 10, but was not arrested. He then returned to Edmonton.

Staff Sgt. Bill Clark said Marek remained in contact with police by email until investigators asked him to speak with them Tuesday.

Roy said she believed that Marek might try to flee the country after that interview. “He made it very clear to the investigator who conducted the interview that he does not want to stay in Canada.”

Shortly after speaking with police, Roy told court, Marek went to a bank at West Edmonton Mall. When police arrested him, he had $18,000 in cash and his passport. Doyon said that was Marek’s life savings and police have now confiscated the passport. As a condition of his bail, Marek cannot access the Internet.

Marek spoke only briefly during his court appearance, to confirm he did not have a Slovakian passport. When he appeared about to address the content of his Best Gore website, Doyon cut him off.

Roy told court she expects Marek will soon face more charges in connection to his website. He is the sole administrator and controller of the site, Roy said. Police believe the Best Gore website has had 10 million viewers at various times.

Marek is scheduled to return to court Aug. 1. He does not have a criminal record.

Magnotta, 30, is currently awaiting trial for first-degree murder in the death of Lin, a 33-year-old Chinese international student who was killed in Montreal in May 2012. Magnotta also faces charges of committing an indignity to a dead body and harassing the prime minister, and obscenity charges under the same section of the Criminal Code under which Marek is now charged.

Originally enacted in response to violent “crime comics” after a sensational murder in the late 1940s, corrupting morals is now a dated and rarely used section of the Criminal Code.

University of Alberta law professor Peter Sankoff said the Supreme Court of Canada has clearly narrowed the definition of the section through the years, and there is a high threshold for deeming something obscene under modern law.

He said in the past, indecency and obscenity laws were used in cases that included gay pornography and swingers’ clubs, with the “obscenity” definition becoming more of a particular moral judgment than a criminal offence.

The section is currently designed to specifically protect against sexual exploitation or a combination of sex and crime, horror, cruelty or violence. There is no specific law against “snuff” films in Canada, and without a sexual element that kind of material would not be covered under the law. Similarly, depictions of people hurting or killing animals wouldn’t be covered under any existing law if it isn’t sexual.

Sankoff said the Criminal Code was not conceived with cases such as Marek’s in mind, but the law can — and does — adapt to societal changes.

“The fact of the matter is, until about 10 years ago, we didn’t have crimes on Internet luring either, and now we do,” he said. “The law is sometimes reactive to problems as they occur, and we change the law to deal with situations. We didn’t have a law against child porn, that’s only 15 to 20 years old. The reason we didn’t have it is we just didn’t see it as a problem that needed addressing (before that time). That’s the nature of the way the law evolves.”

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Quote:As a condition of his bail, Marek cannot access the Internet.

lol this is a fate worse than jail.
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BestGore owner charged with "corrupting morals"


Hello, traveler.

This is an ancient account I have not used in a long time. My views have changed much in the intervening months and years.

Nonetheless, I refuse to clean it up. Pretending that I've held my current views since the beginning of time is what we in the industry call a lie. Asking people to do so contributes to moralistic self-loathing. "See, those people have nothing damning! I do! I'm truly vile!"

Because you can never be a good person with a single blemish on the moral record, I thought that simply entertaining some thoughts made me irredeemable. Though I don't care for his writing style, William Faulkner presents a good counterexample. He went from being a typical Southern racist to supporting the civil rights movement. These days we'd yell at him for that, probably.

People are allowed to change their views.

Nevertheless, this period of my life has informed some of how I am today. In good ways and bad ways. To purge it would be to do a disservice to history. Perhaps it will not make anyone sympathetic, but it may help someone understand.

If, after reading all this, you still decide to use the post above as evidence that I am evil today, ask yourself if you have never disagreed with the moral code you now follow. In all likelihood you did, at some point. If some questions are verboten, and the answer is "how dare you ask that," don't expect your ideological opponents to ever change their minds.
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