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I wasn't good enough at encouraging people to be kinder, and removing people who refuse to be kind. Encouraging people is hard, and removing people creates conflict, and I hate conflict... so that's why I wasn't better at it.

I was a very, very sensitive teen. The atmosphere of this forum as it is now, if it had existed in 1996, would probably have upset me far more than it would have helped.

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1st year college student, don't like grading system, people cheat and still graduate, different ways to be "smart." Not too big on forums or Internet chat rooms, looked this site up and decided to check you guys out.
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A tie between chocolate chip and macadamian nut xD
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Macadamian nut huh?
I think we're going to get along just fine...

Welcome! I'm a "in-between the spot after graduating high school and before attending college while needing to apply to college". I've also got a title there beneath my name which should help make more sense. And I'm quite likely crazy, but I haven't gotten a doctor's note for it yet Biggrin

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Lol, neat xD decided what you might study yet, or just going for general Ed? Crazy is good Razz what do I mean by different types of "smart?"
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I just had some issues with my citizenship status in the US(I was born overseas). Unfortunately, my parents neglected to really take it seriously and get me naturalized till only recent. Luckily I was able to travel to Turkey(since there was no proof of my entrance into the US), get the required visa, and return a day before my 18th birthday(which allowed me to get US citizenship as my father is a citizen. If I was a day late, I wouldn't have gotten it and rather became a permanent resident).

However, this was a bit late and I had no scholarships and the FAFSA grant wasn't enough for the colleges I got accepted to(I only applied to six anyway Razz ). My mother wants me to study in the US(I purposefully neglected paying that admission deposit) but I want to go overseas(Australia is my top priority, though Turkey is a secondary optional option. If I get accepted to colleges in Australia, I won't start till February) or If that doesn't work, I'll just apply for the 2014 fall term(miss a year in a sense, but at least I'll be prepared for college).

Simply, I'm taking a "gap year" because I feel under-prepared for college and am not stupid/naive enough to just say "Hope for the best" and take a dive. My other options give me a suitable amount of time to prepare. I've already got a major decided(2 actually,as I aim for double major. One practical major, one major because I'm just interested in that stuff. Engineering is the former, Ancient history-with learning latin-for the latter)

And I inquire to what you consider different ways of being smart(unless you mean smart-assing as that different way).

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Welcome. If you're up for an 18-minute talk breaking down some of what's wrong with higher ed, check out this one from Michael Wesch:



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What makes you want to study in Australia? Do you plan on coming back to the US if you study overseas? Yeah, that's what a lot of people just do... In studying kinesiology right now, but I'm not even sure what I want to be. Haha, no, I just mean that there are some professionals who don't necessarily new a college education in their field who would do their job better than any other college educated person. Given, these people don't typically make a whole lot of money, but they still know what to look for in bad situations. Isaac Asimov wrote a short essay on these people: his mechanic whom he assumed knew how to fix any automobile problem and never went to school.
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Good video, I feel it could be the sort of emotional push some students may want to get more involved, or at least help understand "education"
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This will answer some questions

And I aim to study materials engineering because it's a pretty versatile field, it's something I'm pretty interested in, and the stuff I learn I would also use for personal reasons(outside of occupational reasons).

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Reasonable enough.
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I just feel that America is making a mockery of intelligence. Anybody who is proven to memorize anything (by the use of grades, which are obviously very easy to manipulate) can be considered idols in the academic community. Americans don't seem to have passion for anything anymore... As long as it has a higher pay, they're convinced they will be "happy"
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And I do agree there are people quite successful without getting a higher education. Sure, there are some more heavily informative fields, but even then you don't actually need a college education. A library, motivation, curiosity and the ability to find and solve problems is basically all you need for most things nowadays Razz

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The problem is employers like to see credentials and paper proof (understandable to some extent), but yes, it does does leave a lot of opportunity out for people who actually have "knowledge" but no documents to prove it...
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