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"No One Dreams of Dropping Out"
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"No One Dreams of Dropping Out"

What do you think of that claim, made in big bold letters at http://boostup.org/en/students

Here's their map of state-by-state dropout rates: http://boostup.org/

Compare that with the trailers for this documentary on unschooling:



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"No One Dreams of Dropping Out"

I dreamed of dropping out. I also dreamed of becoming a giant and smashing up the school, but I doubt that'll ever happen.

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"No One Dreams of Dropping Out"

I dreamed I actually went to high school. I cowered in a corner while the rest of my classmates marched over a walkway with no supports over a bottomless pit to get to our first class.

And that site is almost hilarious. I missed slightly more than three dozen days my last year, and I left just before the end. They saddled me with extra work to do because I missed so many days. And the funny thing is my reading scores were the highest out of all my classmates; I still probably have the papers that say as much stashed somewhere in my desk. Want me to scan them? I would for you guys.

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"No One Dreams of Dropping Out"

Oh wow, I miss 6 fucking days and I have an "82% chance of graduating".

How fucking lulzy.

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RE: "No One Dreams of Dropping Out"

No, but I dream of teleporting out. ALL. THE. DAMN. TIME. It's starting to get irritating.

Hello, traveler.

This is an ancient account I have not used in a long time. My views have changed much in the intervening months and years.

Nonetheless, I refuse to clean it up. Pretending that I've held my current views since the beginning of time is what we in the industry call a lie. Asking people to do so contributes to moralistic self-loathing. "See, those people have nothing damning! I do! I'm truly vile!"

Because you can never be a good person with a single blemish on the moral record, I thought that simply entertaining some thoughts made me irredeemable. Though I don't care for his writing style, William Faulkner presents a good counterexample. He went from being a typical Southern racist to supporting the civil rights movement. These days we'd yell at him for that, probably.

People are allowed to change their views.

Nevertheless, this period of my life has informed some of how I am today. In good ways and bad ways. To purge it would be to do a disservice to history. Perhaps it will not make anyone sympathetic, but it may help someone understand.

If, after reading all this, you still decide to use the post above as evidence that I am evil today, ask yourself if you have never disagreed with the moral code you now follow. In all likelihood you did, at some point. If some questions are verboten, and the answer is "how dare you ask that," don't expect your ideological opponents to ever change their minds.
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RE: "No One Dreams of Dropping Out"

Quote:Students who attend school regularly are more likely than students who are chronically absent to:

Oh god...

Quote:Graduate and go on to college

Woopdie doo

Quote:Score higher on standardized tests

I was one of the 100 or so people in my entire school of 600ish to NOT fail the new standardized tests in my state. They're harder than the old tests.

Quote:Learn to read well by the critical 3rd grade milestone

John Taylor Gatto would have a few words for this...

Quote:Be more engaged in school, feel better about themselves and are less likely to be depressed

Indeed I don't give a shit about school, but that's the reason I miss school a lot! Not vice versa. I feel fantastic about myself. I'm depressed when I DO go to school.

Quote:Build good habits for school and life (How many employers will tolerate a worker who misses 10 percent of work days?)

Assuming we're going to work for someone else our entire lives. This seems like a theme amongst all adults. They work for someone else, their friends work for someone else, therefore everyone is doomed to work for someone else. Except the people that other people work for, but they're lucky, faceless, and anonymous; someone we'll never be.

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RE: "No One Dreams of Dropping Out"

Quote:Build good habits for school and life (How many employers will tolerate a worker who misses 10 percent of work days?)

Assuming we're going to work for someone else our entire lives. This seems like a theme amongst all adults. They work for someone else, their friends work for someone else, therefore everyone is doomed to work for someone else. Except the people that other people work for, but they're lucky, faceless, and anonymous; someone we'll never be.
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Also the student is admitted to be a worker here, giving up the false pretense that school is a place of learning.
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"No One Dreams of Dropping Out"

Oh, and school and work schedules can be vastly different, depending on the job you work in.

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"No One Dreams of Dropping Out"

I misspoke in my original post in this thread. I missed around 77 days, not three dozen. That's around six dozen. To their credit, I didn't actually graduate!
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