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Lying and Misinformation About Drugs
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Lying and Misinformation About Drugs

So recently, I had a project for Health. It was an Anti-Drug Presentation, and I chose LSD. The thing that I discovered was that LSD had no long term physical side effects, and that the other side effects were easily preventable. Because of this, I can't spin the facts in a way to discourage using it. This event made me think about how society treats drugs, and it reminds me of the Christians in Jesus Camp, thinking the ends justify the means.

Drugs are a subject that people need to make a INFORMED opinion about, not be lied to. I see lies about Weed in my curriculum, as well as many other drugs. I guess they just try to make Nicotine and Weed seem like Heroine and Cocaine, but that'll never work. Of coarse they don't say that no has died of cancer because of Marijuana use, they say that Marijuana has twice as many carcinogens. They KNOW the studies they cite are flawed, but they still cite them anyway. They KNOW that people add crap to cigarettes to make them as addicting as possible, but they still say that cigars and pipe tobacco is just as bad.

I understand you want to stop people from using drugs, but this shit isn't okay. What people need is EDUCATION about what they'll do with their OWN bodies. You can't try to control people using lies. That's unethical and disgusting. And as long as you spread your crap, I'll spread the truth.

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My school does the same thing. They also lie about the effects of alcohol. I mean really, they act like if you drink one beer then you're going to die. What kids need to learn is how to respect alcohol and how to be responsible while drinking it. This is because when the kids who were taught never to touch alcohol grow up, they start binge drinking. And they don't know how to handle it because they were never taught how to, they were just taught that alcohol is bad. Which, it really isn't. In some situations it's bad but it's not bad itself.

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If they told the truth about drugs to the best of their ability, I think even fewer people would use them.

A lack of evidence doesn't really convince anyone - all I know is, there are things I do not ever want in my system. Especially narcotics.

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I don't think teaching about alcohol would change anything. We've known about it's effects for, oh about the beginning of history, and we haven't grown any smarter about it. But I agree that young ones should be educated on these things truthfully, rather than putting up a wall and not even talking about it. Humans are curious animals, and if they don't learn from another, they go straight for plan B(trial and error).

I too learned that LSD was actually not a horrifying drug(though what was bad about it was the one's cut with some unhealthy stuff). Course that doesn't excuse the CIA's secret operation of drugging people without their knowledge. And I know weed doesn't have much health effects, as far as researchers know, but it sure as hell makes people stupid, and I don't like stupid people.

But I have no intent of ingesting alcohol or any drug for recreational purposes(except caffeine and my own naturally made drugs. If it isn't medical necessity, out of last resort importance, then I'll have(with hesitation).

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One study actually showed that LSD helps you solve problems easier. Need a new idea for a building? Well, walk through the entire history of architecture! Also, It treats cluster headaches.

I used to say that I don't want to ingest any type of drugs (except medicine and caffeine), but now I'm rethinking that philosophy. One thing that I decided, however, is that if and when weed gets legalized in my state, I would smoke it ONE TIME, to acknowledge that I am one of the first people in a while to smoke it without fear. Be a part of history, if you know what I mean.

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Like I said on another thread, if I or anyone else did or wanted to do drugs, it'd be best and wise they chose something of superior quality(such as pure) no matter the cost.

Hence, If I was to ever do LSD, I'd make sure what I got wasn't mixed with something else(something tells me those sticker types that go on your tongue is 100% LSD).

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RE: Lying and Misinformation About Drugs

Back in the day, LSD was the only drug potent enough to fit on piece of blotter (except for maybe some very rare exceptions). These days there are more research chemicals/synthetic drugs that can be distributed on a blotter and are probably much more dangerous. Also, although the possible psychological side effects of LSD and mushrooms may be minimized through proper set and setting, the possibility of complications are real and frightening. Don't try to kid yourselves into thinking LSD is safe. It has ruined quite a few lives. I highly recommend staying away from it at least until adulthood. It's some pretty heavy duty stuff.

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(05-16-2013 11:09 AM)TheCancer Wrote:  Back in the day, LSD was the only drug potent enough to fit on piece of blotter (except for maybe some very rare exceptions). These days there are more research chemicals/synthetic drugs that can be distributed on a blotter and are probably much more dangerous. Also, although the possible psychological side effects of LSD and mushrooms may be minimized through proper set and setting, the possibility of complications are real and frightening. Don't try to kid yourselves into thinking LSD is safe. It has ruined quite a few lives. I highly recommend staying away from it at least until adulthood. It's some pretty heavy duty stuff.

Oh, I'm not touching anything until adulthood. Also, I just expected LSD to cause cancer or something. I was surprised that it didn't do anything like that. It's heavy duty, but LSD isn't on par with meth or heroine. Also, LSD isn't at all appealing to me, lol.

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Lie: Meth is bad and addictive.
Truth: It's good for you, especially your teeth.

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(05-16-2013 02:11 PM)Wes Wrote:  Lie: Meth is bad and addictive.
Truth: It's good for you, especially your teeth.

I don't think overloading the pleasure sensors of the brain so that you can't feel happy anymore is healthy....

Anyway:

Myth: Nicotine is bad for you.
Fact: It enhances cognitive ability. (It's addictive so that stupid people can remember to take their medicine.)

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^ Lol

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Myth: Absent has done every drug.
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Quote:And I know weed doesn't have much health effects, as far as researchers know, but it sure as hell makes people stupid, and I don't like stupid people.
Marijuana makes you stupid? Or does it just so happen that a large subset of stupid people happen to smoke marijuana? Are you referring to chronic stupidity (pun intended) or temporary stupidity? Marijuana use shouldn't cause any chronic neurological issues as suggested by a number of studies. Memory, attention and neurological function are temporarily affected, but I don't really see any evidence to suggest that smoking weed causes long-term neurological problems in people who don't start until adulthood. http://www.goodtherapy.org/blog/cannabis...nt-0710122

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