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Meanwhile, in the land of "Free speech" and the "Right to bear arms"
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Meanwhile, in the land of "Free speech" and the "Right to bear arms"

http://news.yahoo.com/w-va-teen-arrested...34855.html

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(01-13-2012 10:37 AM)UnschoolShqiponjë Wrote:  Mike you deserve an SS medal. Here, be proud:
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Congrats for doing something I never had the balls to do.
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(01-25-2012 05:36 AM)UnschoolShqiponjë Wrote:  Balls of steel re-awarded. 
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(05-14-2013 03:01 PM)Prince Darkstar Wrote:  Dirtbikemike is the only guy I know of on here who won an argument with a teacher.
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RE: Meanwhile, in the land of "Free speech" and the "Right to bear arms"

sounds like something my dumbass principal would do if teachers ever noticed the shirts i wear (most are in the green with their idiotic rules, but i do have a few that i shouldn't wear)

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"free speech under the constitution only guarantees the government won't stop him saying it and does not guarantee his right to say things and have no consequences at all as a result. also i completely doubt that he is motivated solely by "i'm saying it because i can" and is probably motivated by a more shitheady motive like "i think it's funny to annoy people and Rustle Le Jimmies™ and is just hiding behind the first amendment to try to deflect any consequences or make you realize that being allowed to annoy people is a superior moral right. you can still disdain someone for doing things for dumbarse wankery purposes and you have evne more right to ban and insult them for it" ~Trar's friend about Potato.

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I read that article earlier. I don't see anyone but the teacher being confrontational, especially incorrectly confrontational since the teacher doesn't seem to even know the school rules. Course it's easy to use students as scapegoats, seeing that we are considered limited in our legal rights in their eyes.

The only one inciting the riot was the aggressive teacher. It's like police charging into a crowd of people doing nothing illegal and beating them silly then saying the people were trying to incite a riot.

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(06-14-2013 08:02 AM)Potato Wrote:  watch the fuq out, we've got an "intellectual" over here.

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I would rather have freedom of expression in school than let everything be hush-hush for the sake of politial correctness. Free debate class. Smile

Teacher was acting like a fool, although I suspect nobody is surprised.
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Meanwhile, in the land of "Free speech" and the "Right to bear arms"

We had one or two debate things at school. People usually wanted me on their team because I tended to have strong arguements. However, I honestly disliked debating. Firstly, the debates always devolved into screaming contests with nobody paying any attention to logic but rather to whoever shouted the loudest.

I also wasn't very fond of "debate clubs". I find it absurd and foolish to assume that a good debater is supposed to be a professional bullshitter. For one, a legitimate debate involves knowledge of the topic long before hand and the one's involved tend to have knowledge in that "field". They don't appear and make it up on the spot or waste time studying a whole variety of things to prepare.

I find such things to be superficial and meaningless. I honestly believe they serve as nothing but distractions, as does many such extra activities one takes in school.

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(06-14-2013 08:02 AM)Potato Wrote:  watch the fuq out, we've got an "intellectual" over here.

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Eh, I enjoy a nice argument over the web, so frankly I don't mind at all. There's not so much of a problem with screaming and (intentional) bullshitting as there is a tendency to commit fallacies.
If nothing else, it's much better than being forced to do unpaid labor, unless the debate is exactly that to you.
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I dislike shouting, bullshitting and fallacies. It's why I find it foolish that the SAT does not also consider factual errors when grading the essays. It gives the signal that students can write great essays with completely incorrect information and not have to worry that they said that the War of 1812 started 1914.

Students are getting the idea that long-winded arguments, loud-voices and speed-talking are right with total disregard for logic and facts are the way you persuade people. I win debates because I persuade you that what I'm saying is completely accurate, not because I stand their shouting at you for an entire hour at a fast-pace.

We didn't advance in the sciences and maths by "acting smart" and just going along with whoever shouted the loudest. We used logic, reason, facts and experimentation. At least one of these factors should be used in debates and discussions.

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(06-14-2013 08:02 AM)Potato Wrote:  watch the fuq out, we've got an "intellectual" over here.

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