Items that could be shoplifted?

[..V..]

Things that could be shoplifted.

[Desu]

If I need a new pen or something, I just stop by Walmart, stick one in my pocket, walk out. Done that multiple times. Also stolen headphones before when the cat ate mine.

Drinks are easy to steal. I always steal one of those refrigerated drinks. Just take it out, hold it in your hand, but don't head immediately to the nearest exit, go to the opposite one. Don't be all shifty and shit, take it and leave. Go whenever it's busy, they're going to be stopping carts.

It helps to be clean-shaven, wearing decent clothing, walk with your head high and look like you have somewhere important to be. And don't be with your faggot teenage friends when you're shoplifting.

Pretty much anything small you can stick in your pocket is easily shoplifted.

[Absnt]

I know a guy named JEROME who has shoplifted a flatscreen tv from wallmart before.

[brainiac3397]

(04-24-2013 09:48 AM)Absentinsomniac Wrote:  I know a guy named JEROME who has shoplifted a flatscreen tv from wallmart before.

Where did he stick it?

Tsk.Tsk. Shoplifting is a crime. Onto the plank with ye!

[Absnt]

It was a multifacited plot with more than one person involved. JEROME has job so he's not involved in these sorts of things anymore but JEROME doesn't like to give away trade secrets, especially not online.

w/e w/e

[..V..]

How do you shoplift something when there is a scanner on it?

[Absnt]

Ignore the alarm and deal with the security or remove/deactivate/render useless the RFID chip.

[brainiac3397]

Let me guess:

[Desu]

I used to be a cashier at Walmart.

Only certain items will set off the alarm: ALL electronics, certain really expensive food items (like weird vitamin shit that is $40 or something), really expensive toiletries/make up... that's pretty much it. I think certain tools from the hardware department will set off the alarm. Everything else is up for grabs.

When these items that are secured are scanned, the security is automatically deactivated.

Also those cameras? Half the time those fucking things don't work, but at some stores they do so just assume they work.

Btw, I've stolen tons of food from Walmart over the years. Probably at least $1000 worth by now. It's insanely easy and I don't even think about it. I often stop into Walmart for a free snack. It's amazing.

[brainiac3397]

Well, I guess you follow the literal meaning then?:

[Absnt]

There's also news of kids who got busted for attempting to shop lift at wallmart in the local papers every week, so. Ever heard of los prevention agents? Ever heard of shrink reduction? I work in a grocery store, so I'm pretty familiar with the ins and outs. All of our cameras are operational and are stored on servers. Even if you get caught on camera though, you could probably come back into the store a week later and nobody would know. (At least, for now, pretty sure they're working on facial recognition and cross-retail-chain shoplifter databases.)

Most employees are not supposed to physically stop you, they are supposed to report to someone who will call a LP agent or security or something.

Also JEROME once walked out of wallmart with a 15 dollar pair of gloves, the alarm didn't go off, but when he looked at the tag it had an RFID chip in it. Got lucky that time... JEROME has only had the alarm go off on him like twice and both times were intentional.

I wouldn't steal from my workplace though. The more shit we lose, the less hours I get. Srsly, they cut our hours based on how much goes missing, it's fucking bullshit. I guess they only get a finite amount for payroll or something.

Also quickchanging cashiers is kind of fucked up they can get fired and shit.

[..V..]

Shoplifting food won't go off? How about headphones?

[brainiac3397]

You really want headphones don't you...

[..V..]

Just asking, because if I could then I could shoplift other things.

[Absnt]

(04-24-2013 10:52 AM)Këîtágâmìî Wrote:  Shoplifting food won't go off? How about headphones?

Produce will not go off, neither will candy or bread or any of that sort in my experience. Some headphones might, depending on the price. If they are the ear-bud kind of headphones then I would take them out of the package and ditch the plastic in an isle behind some shit or throw it away. Keep in mind that the electronics department is the most watched area so find a blind spot (see: shoe isle) before getting it out of it's packaging. JEROME used to carry around razor's taped on one end (to prevent cutting JEROMES self), but that up's the stakes because if caught you can be charged with "premeditative theft" instead of just impulse stealing.

[brainiac3397]

Huh. It actually just occurred to me that it makes sense that produce, candy and/or bread will not set off an alarm.(thanks to the reply)

Not only do they have cameras in the electronics area, but also more "employees" who walk around to give assistance, and most likely thwart any attempted theft. You can tell by the way they eye you as you eye a product...

[Sunbourn]

(04-24-2013 10:59 AM)Absentinsomniac Wrote:  

(04-24-2013 10:52 AM)Këîtágâmìî Wrote:  Shoplifting food won't go off? How about headphones?

Produce will not go off, neither will candy or bread or any of that sort in my experience. Some headphones might, depending on the price. If they are the ear-bud kind of headphones then I would take them out of the package and ditch the plastic in an isle behind some shit or throw it away. Keep in mind that the electronics department is the most watched area so find a blind spot (see: shoe isle) before getting it out of it's packaging. JEROME used to carry around razor's taped on one end (to prevent cutting JEROMES self), but that up's the stakes because if caught you can be charged with "premeditative theft" instead of just impulse stealing.

Like shit the shoe isle is gonna be a blind spot. People detag shoes, put them on and walk out all the time. LP is aware of this. Pick a different isle.

If you'e gonna shoplift make sure you're a clean cut white guy. Loss prevention agents -do- profile. If you're black or another minority, they're gonna eye you. If you're black with saggy pants, they won't take their eyes off of you. If you're a well-dressed white guy with a short hair cut, they probably won't even notice you unless you do something really blatant. The best advice anybody will ever give you on shoplifting is to not be a nigger.

[Absnt]

JEROME has personally used the shoe isle in wallmart twice, and it was the only place within like 30 feet a Camera wasn't pointing and there weren't any customers lurking. This isn't a shoe store, it's wallmart. When Jerome got his 60 (I think) dollar kicks from the mall he just wrapped 'em up in his jacket and left lol. He still wears them to this day

But I agree being white is definitely an advantage. And wearing normal clothes. Don't wear "gangster" clothes or those flat brim hats or anything.

Also I believe stealing should be out of necessity not for the rush or for excess. If you really need something go for it, but if you don't I don't really think it's worth it. If you get busted, I'm pretty sure your job prospects are going to be pretty dim. I guess if you're still a minor your record will be sealed, but still... If you have to get a job that makes you sign a waiver for that sort of thing, like a security clerance or something...

[brainiac3397]

I find that after speaking with an employee or two, in sight of others, it seems to "distract" them in the sense they don't prioritize you. I guess it's assumed your a legitimate shopper if you aren't avoiding staff.

Not that many respectable criminals nowadays though. You know, the nicely dressed man who is totally confident in his abilities and quite charismatic. Hell, even con artists have gone down hill.

It's like the difference between this guy:


And this guy:


I don't know about you, but the latter would cause my mind to set off the "sleaze bag" alarm.

I guess nobody really wants to put the effort into being a good looking criminal XD

[Absnt]

Yeah. I mean, there are professionals. JEROME knew of an outlet where they trained shoplifters, they would get the goods, bring it back to a place in philly where they would fence it, and they would get a cut of the spoils. A year ago in the news an 18 wheeler was discovered with over one million dollars worth of shoplifted material in it, too. So yeah, there are professionals, but you don't really hear about them much. Because, ya'know, they're proffessionals.

JEROME doesn't like most of the people within the criminal ranks though. Like 70% of them are incompetent and liable to get you cought, and most of them will rat you out if caught to reduce jail time and shit. The whole idea of Neil and his palls being "ethical theives" isn't realistic. Plus he has so many skills that take dozens of years to perfect each it'd be impossible to master them all, even if you were some sort of savant.

Eh, JEROME saw a con go down the other day at work. Guy got away with 250 bucks. The cashier knew she was getting ripped but didn't have the balls to say anything. I think a lot of crime happens because employees are afraid to do anything and the criminals are dick enough to actually bully people like that because they are addicted. I think something like 80%+ of crime occurs because of addiction as opposed to organized crime these days. Meh. JEROME's out of that business, to quote a rapper, JEROME says, "I've done dirt, but never made news", and now he's out trying to build instead of destroy. Unless building requires destroying lolololo, but mostly it doesn't.

[brainiac3397]

I watched a documentary on some criminal in Europe that was impossible to find, till he made a foolish mistake. He ended going back to the country where the police were on the look-out for him, with a squad watching the Lamborghini he came back for. It was funny because they didn't think such a professional criminal would make such an amateur mistake of coming back. He obviously ended up getting caught when the cops saw him hop into his Lamborghini.

Sure, there are no "ethical thieves" as thievery can't be inhibited by ethics. However, there are certain levels thieves would go to. For one, murder or possession of a weapon tends to aggravate the crime of theft. Yet most thieves enjoy the thrill of the violence.

But usually crimes of necessity(or thefts in this case and most cases) tend to be less direct and more evasive, unless the person reaches a point where jail doesn't sound like a bad option or they're necessity is for want or addiction. It's hard finding a bad guy who you can actually respect, even a little. Now they're just thugs, gangbangers, junkies or utter sleaze bags. Course this also makes it easier to catch them...

[Absnt]

Agreed. There are lines that shouldn't be crossed, even (or maybe especially?) if oen chooses a life of questionable morality...

[Night]

Everything can be shoplifted if you do it right and have a little bit of luck.

If you've ever been to target and I'm sure other stores I'm sure you've seen those locked things. Not the things locked in glass, those are a much different thing. But those bars with the lock on it that have like mp3 players on it and headphones sometimes. Those things you have to get a staff to unlock for you.

I've stolen several things off of those without getting caught. Right in front of several cameras. You just cut the plastic of the case, hide it in your jacket if you can, take it to the bathroom and then take everything you need out of the packaging. You have to take them out of the packaging because that's where they keep the chip that makes the alarms go off when you leave. Throw the packaging away, put a decent amount of paper towel over them. And your done.

[Absnt]

^ Pretty much but a lot of wallmarts have a person stationed near the bathrooms and LP's watch out for that. JABRONE has used the bathroom before, but if they see you go in with something and don't see you come out with it...

Just watch your ass. Contrary to popular belief it doesn't matter how well planned it is, nothing is certain in these situations. Too many variables, you can't plan for everything, even the best get caught sometimes.

[Night]

The only time I was ever caught shoplifting was at big y and I was stealing some nail polish. And I got stopped by those stupid security guards that they have dress like regular people.

Anyways I haven't really done much shoplifting in a while. I even started helping Target managers catch shoplifters with my friends sometimes. We do that because where I live Target is the ONLY place for kids my age to hang out and it's kind of an unspoken agreement between us to not get kicked out all the time. Works.

[..V..]

Should you carry something that could take the packaging off?

[Absnt]

JEROME has, but like I said, I'm pretty sure it'll increase the penalty if caught. Also if you suspect you're going to get caught, ditch the stuff it's not worth it. Also if it's too late to ditch the stuff and you're getting called out, fucking run lol.


But JEROME always did if his target was in plastic. Otherwise how would one get to it quickly without making a scene?

[Alucard483]

Dont shoplift headphonea. You will get caught

[Trapacity]

Just please don't use deodorant and stick it back on the shelf. I just recently bought a stick without checking (even though I thought about it, but decided against it for whatever fucktard of a reason) and got really pissed. Not that I didn't use it at home, but its just disgusting.

[brainiac3397]

0_o

That...is nasty.