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Human beings have to urinate and defecate

Teachers and administrators who don't let students go are idiots. You have to allocate time for such things. Also, sometimes kids just want to take a short walk around for the heck of it. So what?

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Human beings have to urinate and defecate

Most of the teachers at my school torture people by running water or making them solve some sort of mind game before they go. Also, I find it quite annoying when teachers say ,"You could have gone during lunch or passing period," most of the time they are incorrectly assuming that they had time to do it or had to go at that time.
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RE: Human beings have to urinate and defecate

Yeah that's crap. You have to go when you have to go. Plus, if everyone went during lunch the line would be 20 minutes long.

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What's the harm of letting a student go to the bathroom anyways? My teachers are aloud to be late to their own class and they can leave the class to go to the bathroom, so why can't we?
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I believe the passing period at my school is about 5 minutes. Most of this time is spent gathering my stuff and navigating the wonderfully crowded halls to the classroom. Should I go to the restroom, I'll often find it's crowded with people who are not even using it.
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At the beginning of the year, we were each given a bathroom pass that we were only allowed to use four times throughout the entire year. But then, to make matters worse, the teachers are crazy strict with being to class on time, so if we were ever late, we had to use our pass. Luckily, my friend made a bunch of photocopies of her pass before she wrote anything on it, and has been selling them to our grade. And the teachers are too stupid to figure out what's going on.
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My ceramics teacher wouldn't let a kid in my class use the bathroom and after talking to the teacher about why not - the teacher repeatedly saying manipulating and rude things to this kid-the kid got mad and started cussing, so the teacher gave him I.S.S. and he still didn't let the kid use the bathroom.
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I say if a teacher doesn't let you go to the bathroom when you have to go badly, take a piss in the trash bin!

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RE: Human beings have to urinate and defecate

Make a makeshift outhouse...

Seriously, though, high school students shouldn't have to declare it's an 'emergency'...or, more embarrasingly, if your teacher doen't believe you (and of course you are female) a 'feminie emergency'. Nobody needs to know about that.

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I hate this. Especially when they say you should have gone during lunch. Do you idiots not understand the human body? After we eat and drink, we are eventually going to have to go to the bathroom.

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The worst one I utterly despise is the "Why didn't you go before?".It's not like what I eat and drink goes from my mouth pass my intestines right into my rectum and bladder, contrary to seemingly popular belief.

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RE: Human beings have to urinate and defecate

I actually managed to keep in all my pee and poo for the entire 6-7 hours I spent in prison.. . just so that I wouldn't have to ask to go. Probably unhealthy. .. people should just go as soon as they need to, ideally.

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My kindergarten teacher said that when she was going to school that she decided to hold her pee in and ended up going to the hospital because she held it in for so long that her body literally wouldn't allow her to pee. Maybe she just made that up to scare five-year-old me....
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they torture you to make you understand how helpless you are.
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If the staff at my school wouldn't let me go to the toilet, I'd go anyway.

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(04-17-2013 11:56 AM)AwesomeOpossum Wrote:  My kindergarten teacher said that when she was going to school that she decided to hold her pee in and ended up going to the hospital because she held it in for so long that her body literally wouldn't allow her to pee. Maybe she just made that up to scare five-year-old me....

A lot of teachers end up with bladder problems even though she was talking about her school days. What she is describing is real. Some people get shy bladder so badly that they get to the point where they can't even go when they're alone. Some people just can't go with others around and end up stretching their bladders out so they don't work right. It's hard for teachers because it can be hard to find time to go in some schools. I dislike when people think their bathroom experience should be universal. They think it takes me a minute to urinate so that's the case for everyone. Well, some people can't just go that easily. That's another reason why taking the whole class at once doesn't really work. I let every student go, one at a time, during class because I believe most people like a little privacy and to not have to rush. Some kids still complain at me though. They want to leave class three or four times. That'll get me fired though. I already get a bad rap for letting so many students out every time.

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Which brings the question again (sorry if you answered it or can't be arsed): why be a teacher? Biggrin
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(04-17-2013 11:27 AM)SoulRiser Wrote:  I actually managed to keep in all my pee and poo for the entire 6-7 hours I spent in prison.. . just so that I wouldn't have to ask to go. Probably unhealthy. .. people should just go as soon as they need to, ideally.
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(04-17-2013 08:42 PM)Ami Wrote:  Which brings the question again (sorry if you answered it or can't be arsed): why be a teacher? Biggrin

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My gym teacher didn't let me use the bathroom during lunch yesterday. He said I was breaking a 'no talking' rule. I had to wait to get back to class to ask my home room teacher.

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This is why I liked alt ed. If you have had to use the bathroom or get a drink you didn't even have to ask you just got up and left. Sometimes they'd ask where you were going and you'd just say "bathroom" or "getting water" and they'd be all "ok"

But before alt ed I usually never actually ate lunch, I'd just hang out with friends and walk around school or whatever so I might use the bathroom then. But my teachers then also weren't too mean about using the bathroom.

And on a slightly unrelated but still somewhat related note: When I was in detention for violating my suspended order of detention I hate pee in a cup so they could do a drug test. But the thing was that same day I was taken to detention I smoked weed, literally I smoked, fell asleep, was waken up by police and taken to detention. And I managed to avoid a piss test the entire time I was there. >Biggrin

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I remember one time during 6th grade math (with my homeroom teacher) where a couple fellow workers (or students as they were called) asked to use the bathroom. I don't remember whether they were allowed to go or not, but it prompted an impromptu "lesson" about human biology involving a drawing of a bladder and a basic explanation of how it worked, and that if we needed to go we should have done it during break(10 minutes twice a day). Goddamnit if that wasn't patronizing I don't know what the fuck is.
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What makes me mad about that is the assumption that everyone's the same.

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Yeah... it's dumb. Nope, it's not about 'discipline', it's not about you needing a certain level of 'respect', it's about a really basic, fundamental (as in ten-second google search basic) grounding in pshycology. What we usually mean by discipline is a respect of others, right?

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Look at that chart, you cannot get respect without letting people go to the bathroom as they please. Well, you could demand it but it would only be a house of cards.

Heck, you don't even need a ten-second grounding in pshycology just take a few seconds to think: Children and young people are not extraterrestrials. I can't concentrate on anything else when I have a full bladder. Therefore?

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Tell somebody who has a full bladder to pay attention...#logic

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Thank you for so aptly demonstrating the point that teachers so often fail at. Hence, this.

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